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Old 2006-09-22, 14:04
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Who thinks Joey Jordison is overrated?

I think he his, people go about saying he's the best drummer in the world, he may be the most famous drummer..


 
Old 2006-09-22, 14:19
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How about learning to make a good sentence, before starting a thread?
 
Old 2006-09-22, 14:52
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Old 2006-09-22, 15:14
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He's really good, but certainly not the best.
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Old 2006-09-22, 15:45
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He's really good, but certainly not the best.

Even though he certainly has a fair bit of skill, you can't say he's really good after watching players like Mike Mangini, Bobby Jarzombek, Vinnie Colaiuta etc.
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Old 2006-09-22, 16:59
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How about learning to make a good sentence, before starting a thread?


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Old 2006-09-22, 17:15
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Even though he certainly has a fair bit of skill, you can't say he's really good after watching players like Mike Mangini, Bobby Jarzombek, Vinnie Colaiuta etc.


i think jordinson is a good start for a drummer interested in metal, overrated,yes, but its by the uninitiated. annoying but forgivable

the guys you mention are far more overrated, imo, however. you might as well of dropped buddy richs name. those guys are who what alot of the advanced drummers worship.

its like me saying steve vai and malmsteen are the real deal.

good doesnt always mean skilled. this is not to imply the joey can lay down some tasteful playing. but there is something to be said about playing what a song needs moreso than what polyrythymn and 64th note bombast can be thrown in at every bar.

just food for thought

Edit:mangini would be a sick death metal drummer, too bad he has that bereklee rep to uphold.
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Old 2006-09-22, 20:39
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Even though he certainly has a fair bit of skill, you can't say he's really good after watching players like Mike Mangini, Bobby Jarzombek, Vinnie Colaiuta etc.

He would blow my ass out of the water with this drumming. But yeah. Many more better drummers.

BUDDY RICH to be exact.
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Old 2006-09-22, 22:15
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Old 2006-09-22, 22:16
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Old 2006-09-24, 19:14
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Joey is a very good drummer, but in a way, most good drummers are overrated somewhat. There is no good or fun in argueing an opinion over someone else's. I could sit here and argue that Gene Hoglan kicks Vinny Pauls ass on drums, but how can you prove it? You can't. Nobody fucking wins, why waste your time.
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Old 2006-09-25, 00:29
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Hey how about Gene Krupa? He was a kick ass drummer.

Joey is very good but it's all a matter of oppinion. There is much better out there like Frost from Satyricon/1349. That guy can blast or lay down some jazzy beats in the blink of an eye. But I feel being a good musician doesn't mean being an extreemly tallented one. To me the tallent comes in the songwritting department not the playing department. I know I will be bashed to death for this but take Pat O Brien for example. Very tallented guitarist but he is not a very good song writter. He tries to make every riff extreemly technical with every song he writes it gets very repetative. But it's all a matter of oppinion.
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Old 2006-09-25, 01:59
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He is fucking trash his shit isnt even techinal
 
Old 2006-09-26, 01:20
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He is fucking trash his shit isnt even techinal


Doesn't have to be.
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Old 2006-09-26, 03:25
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Old 2006-09-26, 04:18
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Joey is obviously a very talented drummer. The only thing that makes him overrated is Slipknot maggots. Slipknot is obviously very high school oriented metal so when some 15 year old kid you just started playing drums hears Slipknot he thinks "OMG, this is like the best drumming EVAR!!!" just because Joey does more than basic metal drumming. Its all about perspective, im sure a lot of people here idolized musicians that they later realized werent anything special when they first started.
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Old 2006-09-26, 04:22
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That's basically what Joey is best known for; bringing fast heavy drumming to the mainstream audience (MTV and FUSE fanboys and girls to be specific).
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Old 2006-09-27, 18:08
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Remeber Joey was also in Anal Blast and was a session drummer for Satyricon.
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Old 2006-09-27, 19:36
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I didn't know that, actually.

I only know that he played for Metallica one time. And, of course, he plays guitar in Murderdolls
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Old 2006-09-28, 05:15
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Old 2006-09-28, 12:15
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i think the question is who doesnt think he's overrated
 
Old 2006-09-28, 13:57
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I think the question is, why the hell is this girl (apparently) just barging in and starting probably the dumbest topic I've seen in years? Start a thread about something fun and/or interesting, for example forcing pets into homosexual situations or farting on little children.

Does Clarissa even play drums? I'm kind of ambivalent in my hopes - on one hand I hope that she does because it's good to see members of the female species playing drums, on the other hand I don't, because that lame topic is a fucking disgrace to all female drummers and shows evidence of a room-temperature IQ.

Joey Jordison is an overrated drummer both in areas of taste and technique. Sure he can do some cool shit, but there are people who outdrum him any day. In respects to taste, choosing good drums and cymbals is a very important factor for me, if a drummer doesn't show good taste in their choice of gear (given their budget), they disapoint me. I don't like the sound of Joey's drums, I don't like the fact that he lets two "percussionists" bash trashcans on stage, and I don't like the songs he writes.

Oh btw, Clarissa, if you don't play drums, get the fuck out kthanxdie.
 
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I think the question is, why the hell is this girl (apparently) just barging in and starting probably the dumbest topic I've seen in years? Start a thread about something fun and/or interesting, for example forcing pets into homosexual situations or farting on little children.

Does Clarissa even play drums? I'm kind of ambivalent in my hopes - on one hand I hope that she does because it's good to see members of the female species playing drums, on the other hand I don't, because that lame topic is a fucking disgrace to all female drummers and shows evidence of a room-temperature IQ.

Joey Jordison is an overrated drummer both in areas of taste and technique. Sure he can do some cool shit, but there are people who outdrum him any day. In respects to taste, choosing good drums and cymbals is a very important factor for me, if a drummer doesn't show good taste in their choice of gear (given their budget), they disapoint me. I don't like the sound of Joey's drums, I don't like the fact that he lets two "percussionists" bash trashcans on stage, and I don't like the songs he writes.

Oh btw, Clarissa, if you don't play drums, get the fuck out kthanxdie.

Man those are the best things to do.
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Old 2006-09-28, 18:56
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I think the question is, why the hell is this girl (apparently) just barging in and starting probably the dumbest topic I've seen in years? Start a thread about something fun and/or interesting, for example forcing pets into homosexual situations or farting on little children.

Does Clarissa even play drums? I'm kind of ambivalent in my hopes - on one hand I hope that she does because it's good to see members of the female species playing drums, on the other hand I don't, because that lame topic is a fucking disgrace to all female drummers and shows evidence of a room-temperature IQ.

Joey Jordison is an overrated drummer both in areas of taste and technique. Sure he can do some cool shit, but there are people who outdrum him any day. In respects to taste, choosing good drums and cymbals is a very important factor for me, if a drummer doesn't show good taste in their choice of gear (given their budget), they disapoint me. I don't like the sound of Joey's drums, I don't like the fact that he lets two "percussionists" bash trashcans on stage, and I don't like the songs he writes.

Oh btw, Clarissa, if you don't play drums, get the fuck out kthanxdie.


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Old 2006-09-28, 19:56
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Old 2006-09-28, 20:01
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I think the question is, why the hell is this girl (apparently) just barging in and starting probably the dumbest topic I've seen in years? Start a thread about something fun and/or interesting, for example forcing pets into homosexual situations or farting on little children.

Does Clarissa even play drums? I'm kind of ambivalent in my hopes - on one hand I hope that she does because it's good to see members of the female species playing drums, on the other hand I don't, because that lame topic is a fucking disgrace to all female drummers and shows evidence of a room-temperature IQ.

Joey Jordison is an overrated drummer both in areas of taste and technique. Sure he can do some cool shit, but there are people who outdrum him any day. In respects to taste, choosing good drums and cymbals is a very important factor for me, if a drummer doesn't show good taste in their choice of gear (given their budget), they disapoint me. I don't like the sound of Joey's drums, I don't like the fact that he lets two "percussionists" bash trashcans on stage, and I don't like the songs he writes.

Oh btw, Clarissa, if you don't play drums, get the fuck out kthanxdie.


as a matter of fact, I fucking well do play the drums. and who are you to tell me what to do? so why dont you go fuck off to your sad world of having problems with everyone and everything, fucker.
 
Old 2006-09-28, 20:34
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WELL!

well,i dont wanna argue with anyone at all her,cause i just joined!!! but girls can play the drums,maybe some guys are better cause of the whole "im the man,im agressive" sorta thing,but please dont be mean to people and arguing over who can play drums and who cant,i mean c'mon,u guys are arguing over a message board dudes,thats sad!
p.s joey rules and is really hot! lol
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Old 2006-09-28, 20:35
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oh sorry forgot to add this! clarissa can play drums very well just so you know cause shes a good friend of mine aint that right clary???
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Old 2006-09-28, 20:39
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haha yeah, I dont actually blame that guy cause he obviously has some kind of mental problem..
 
Old 2006-09-28, 20:40
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dont say people have mental problems remember,this is a message board,not some riot!!!!!
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Old 2006-09-28, 20:50
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It's not a riot, it's a bastard who has some kind of problem with everything and seems to like taking the piss on random people he doesnt even know, probabley because he has emotional problems and a miserable life. haha, deserves it then.

I cant be bothered arguing with him, he is obviously a waste of my time. What the fuck is the point in arguing over why I started this topic? He's calling me dumb from starting a topic, what about him saying pointless bullshite to get his personal misery off his chest? haha
 
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true. but i dont wanna argue,i just joined god damnit!! lol
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Maggot was funny. I don't know why people hated him with such a passion. Just a noob.

But this...

I see Fall Out Boy in the favorite music section of her profile. >_>
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I'm a girl.Why must you assume that everyone who has a problem with you 0nline has a dick? Maybe because there are no girls on the internet? Look at my avatar and username - voila.

I don't have any personal misery except for the fact that I don't like retards, such as you. It's useful to get to know a forum and lurk first, and it's incredibly irritating when people just barge in, especially since we just had our fair share of Joey Jordison related discussion. Discussing whether he is overrated or not is probably the most cliched topic on a metal forum. Now go post some worthwhile questions, drum clips or techniques.

_Punkee_Sara_ - Your testimony doesn't count. If you think your opinion about your friend's playing matters to anyone who doesn't know you, you have serious ego issues.
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mean c'mon,u guys are arguing over a message board dudes,thats sad!
p.s joey rules and is really hot! lol

christ... where the fuck is a suicide smiley when you need one.

1. MILLIONS of people argue on message boards. get used to it. its not sad, wrong, or childish.

2. that was probably the most stupid "p.s." ive ever read.

yes, joey is overrated. hoo-fuckin-ray.
 
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I just read that... Who the hell but 14 year old gothmos thinks that this crackwhore is hot? I suppose Dani Filth, the midget with the beer gut, must be hot also?

http://www.shortsupport.org/gif/who...rdison_Joey.jpg

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first yoo thought it was about to get sexy THEN yoo thought it was about to get dirty teehee make up your mind dude! lol **smiles**

Sexy and dirty can be both one in the same.

As far as Joey being overrated; Hell yeah. He's more overrated than Lars Ulrich and Travis Barker combined. He's better than both of them, but..... well let me say this; I think if he had the courage to get out of slipknot, I think he could be a better drumming. Don't ask me why I think this, but slipknot has just stifled whatever potential they had and Joey's the only one who still shows such potential. He should kick Corey in the nuts, leave, and follow a different path from nu-metal and the such. Until then, he's nothing more than a dude who can do fast double bass.

Also, his blast beats are fucking sloppy as hell live. And his snare sounds like crap. I used to like that staccato snapping sound most snares make, but I've kind of warmed up to snares that ring out a little.

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Broken Crimson, for what it's worth, I officially think you are funny as hell.

Why the hell does that guy shave his eyebrows?
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Old 2006-09-29, 03:55
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Old 2006-09-29, 03:58
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Um.. I have to disagree with him being overrated. Yea he's mainstream and slipknot has a pretty huge fan base, but he's still extremely fucking good. He's as every bit as good as some of the greats of metal drumming.
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I see Fall Out Boy in the favorite music section of her profile. >_>


Uh oh, I know this wont end well.

Oh well, they are 15 and 16 respectively so I guess this can be expected...
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Old 2006-09-29, 07:41
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Can we can the hostilities please, ladies and gentleman? Just discuss the boy Jordison and leave it at that.
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Old 2006-09-29, 08:25
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I'm a girl.Why must you assume that everyone who has a problem with you 0nline has a dick? Maybe because there are no girls on the internet? Look at my avatar and username - voila.

I don't have any personal misery except for the fact that I don't like retards, such as you. It's useful to get to know a forum and lurk first, and it's incredibly irritating when people just barge in, especially since we just had our fair share of Joey Jordison related discussion. Discussing whether he is overrated or not is probably the most cliched topic on a metal forum. Now go post some worthwhile questions, drum clips or techniques.

_Punkee_Sara_ - Your testimony doesn't count. If you think your opinion about your friend's playing matters to anyone who doesn't know you, you have serious ego issues.


OK I dont really give a shit if you are a girl or not anyway. Even it were a dumb topic who the fuck are you to tell me what to do? Who the fuck do you think you are bitching at me for starting a topic, haha how sad, obviously you dont have anything better to do bitch.
 
Old 2006-09-29, 08:33
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OK I dont really give a shit if you are a girl or not anyway. Even it were a dumb topic who the fuck are you to tell me what to do? Who the fuck do you think you are bitching at me for starting a topic, haha how sad, obviously you dont have anything better to do bitch.


well she isn't a noob
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Old 2006-09-29, 09:26
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The girls here seem to have a serious tempre hehe.

Anyway, even if he's an ugly douche, he still plays 10 times better than me, so i'm not going to condamn him.
 
Old 2006-09-29, 13:11
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this thread is fucking over

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