Mids..

What about it? What is the purpose of "Scooping the mids"? Does it make the guitar louder? Does it help distinguish guitar from bass? Arent the middle frequencies where the vocals belong? Why scoop the mids?

Everybody's like scoop mids, but never say why?

Well... I was too lazy to read every single post about mids.

have fun

In the name of the Metal Gods DON'T SCOOP YOUR MIDS!

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Only n00bs scoop their mids.
It sounds good when you're just starting out playing in your bedroom on a crappy practice amp.
Seriously, the moment when a budding metal guitarist enters a live situation is the moment they find out that scooping your mids is not the way to go. Your guitar will get eaten up by the drums and bass.

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The Metal Gods are many and grim and Soul is their profet, and I am his acolyte.

DON'T SCOOP YOUR MIDS!

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mids = balls


I'm not saying I have my mids dimed or anything but I keep my mids around 3-4. It just gives you that crunch. makes palm mutes sound better. your leads will sound better. It makes everything sound better It doesn't mean you have to have a lot of mids. Just don't scoop them completely

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yes. Thats how I have mine.

Well it really all depends. Telling someone to never scoop their mids is just as silly as telling someone to scoop them. Sometimes, especially in a two guitar situation, having one guitar with slightly scooped mids and the other with boosted mids compliments each other well. Its also good for heavy rhythm tracks to make them blend in more. Mids help you stand out, its where most of the volume is. So if you want to be forward in a mix, raise your mids. If you want to blend into the backround, lowering your mids helps.

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AAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

I said i'd lose it if i heard this topic one more time!!!!!!

Im playing with Bass 8 Mid 5 Trebel 8, thats scooping is it not? Well im using a solidstate amp head so naturally it has a TON more mid in the tone then a tube amp does. To account for this i turn the mids down to half-way. On a tube amp i usually keep them around 3/4 of the way up depending on the amp.

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*smacks self in head*
Had no idea about THAT.
Now I kinda see why I like solid-state better than tube.

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[Rhythm] Guitar is a mid instrument. Mids are good.

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The tube amps I played had more mids than your average ss amp I reckon.

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+1. Most SS amps tend to be transparent. Ive never played a SS amp that had more mids than my old Mesa's and Ampeg's.

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OK, tube or S.S., each amp has its own tone and mids.

Just because someone uses Bass 7, Mid 5, Treb 8 doesn't mean its scooped. Sure it has a scooped pattern but scooping the mids would be like Bass 7, Mid -OMFG ( the Mid knob has been removed from the amp ), Treb 8.

Scooping the eq a bit is a good thing and can add some crispy crunch, but never over do it. Eventually you will be lost in the mix and sound thin and weak.

However, boosting mids sometimes can add its own flavor and add to the overall tone of a band.

It is really a balancing act but the right combonation of freqs make tone everthing.

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This is just what Slayer does. It has an awsome result on thier sound too.

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I like to have a lot of mids in my tone, especialy in leads. It kinda sucks to palm mute if you have more mids than bass and highs though..

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I think this is the proper way to get a more "scooped" sound. Dont cut your mids, boost your bass and highs. Cutting out your mids just takes away from your tone. Too many people focus on cutting out the frequencies they dont want, instead try boosting the ones that you do.

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are you talking about your amp settings or eq-ing, after a recording?

It depends completely on the style and type of tone you are attempting to achieve.

You can really distinguish guitar playing right off the bat by the use of Mids. I personally slightly cut the mids. But i've heard alot of great bands with alot of mid in their sound.

You can typically see and tell teh difference just in genre of metal by the amount of mid. Melodic death usually has more mids than say death metal.

The purpose of scooping mids isn't to make it louder cause that does the opposite effect, it just makes the guitar boomier. if thats even the word.

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I like to have lots of mids for rhythm and leads , pretty much everything. I also have an X2N and that combo works well for me. I play various types of metal and some classic rock and I like the sound of it, all juiced up.

I like boosting mids on my sweeps,

Using my neck pickup and a EQ pedal Frowny faced give you a nice creamy liquid sound. I like it.

Im going to jump in here for a sec...

Im sure EVERYONE has seen suffocation live... now i THINK its safe to say that their live tone is REALLY GOOD... right?

Now last time they hit halifax, i chatted with terrance, and he said their mids are at "11 o'clock" thats like 4/4.5 on your mid range out of 10... THAT scooping mids.

Now a guy in a local band here (thy flesh consumed) is a good friend of mine (name is dave burns) and his randall is at 3 mids when they play, and you can hear him and his other guitar player over everyone else.

so that covers tube (suffo's XXX), and SS (my buddies rg100), and it CAME be an OK thing to do live... it jsut comes down to your pesonal preference.

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HAHA that was good man

i gotta remember that one

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