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2006-08-22, 04:31
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6 string vs 7 string
Do you prefer 6 or 7 string guitars?
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2006-08-22, 04:32
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2006-08-22, 04:33
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6 string has more pick-up range
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2006-08-22, 04:33
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spoke too soon, ha. 7. More options, easier time playing songs by bands in different tunings.
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2006-08-22, 04:35
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2006-08-22, 04:35
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There's a poll. Tard.
And who was this promise made by? 
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2006-08-22, 05:28
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although i enjoy playing my 7string id rather a 6string tuned to C or D
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2006-08-22, 10:55
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I currently only own 7 strings so I'll have to say 7 really!
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2006-08-22, 11:23
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7's.
More harmonic options and larger sonic range without resorting to weird tunings.
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2006-08-22, 11:39
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my opinions
i tryed playing unanything's 7 but its a lefty
and i am a righty so i couldnt play it.
at the moment i prefere 6 strings but if i ever buy a 7 my opinion may change
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2006-08-22, 13:08
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Dude, how some polls can be stupid...7 string gtr is played on the other way than 6 string guitar...blah
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2006-08-22, 13:42
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Dude, how some polls can be stupid...7 string gtr is played on the other way than 6 string guitar...blah
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I have never tried a quality 7 string so I picked 6 string.
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2006-08-22, 19:26
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6, but only tried a 7 once briefly.
a related question: those of you who have a 7-string for playing in B instead of a 6 tuned down to B, do you tune the G string down to F#, or do you just shift your fretting on that string by one fret? i would think tune the string down, but just curious.
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2006-08-22, 20:45
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6 string is better no question
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2006-08-22, 20:58
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6, but only tried a 7 once briefly.
a related question: those of you who have a 7-string for playing in B instead of a 6 tuned down to B, do you tune the G string down to F#, or do you just shift your fretting on that string by one fret? i would think tune the string down, but just curious.
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I never change the tuning. You get used to shifting your finger down a fret after a while anyway. It usually makes things easier since it is a fret down instead of a fret up.
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2006-08-22, 21:08
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Never played a 7-string. If you can't play a 6-string worth a fuck what good is adding another string eh...
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2006-08-22, 21:11
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RIght now i only have one guitar and it is a 7 string. I think it makes you better when you play a 6 string and it sorta forces you to know your way around the fretboard more. 6 strings are more comfortable to play, I'll say that much.
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2006-08-22, 22:06
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i play 6 strings,
i owned a 7 string, and its not bad, but since most songs i play are al written on 6 strings i have no need for that extra B.
i might build a 7 in the future though 
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i was thinking on getting a 7 string because great death metal bands are tuned to B or Bb and I dont want to tune a 6 string two and a half or three steps down
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2006-08-23, 03:32
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i was thinking on getting a 7 string because great death metal bands are tuned to B or Bb and I dont want to tune a 6 string two and a half or three steps down
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2006-08-23, 03:38
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i was thinking on getting a 7 string because great death metal bands are tuned to B or Bb and I dont want to tune a 6 string two and a half or three steps down
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2006-08-23, 05:17
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I'd definately say 7. Hoping to pick one up finally this summer.
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2006-08-23, 15:55
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As of now 6, but I've never really sat down with a 7 string long so my opinion could change even though I dont think it will. I've tried a 7 string briefly once. I didn't like/wasn't used to the wider neck and the extra string. Also, there arent alot of 7 string pickups to choose from and I have yet to see one with a trem on it. Basically there arent to many options IMO with 7 strings. But overall I like the thinner neck(my hands are kinda small) of a 6 and I dont really play anything (except some Morbid Angel) that requires a 7 string.
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As of now 6, but I've never really sat down with a 7 string long so my opinion could change even though I dont think it will. I've tried a 7 string briefly once. I didn't like/wasn't used to the wider neck and the extra string. Also, there arent alot of 7 string pickups to choose from and I have yet to see one with a trem on it. Basically there arent to many options IMO with 7 strings. But overall I like the thinner neck(my hands are kinda small) of a 6 and I dont really play anything (except some Morbid Angel) that requires a 7 string.
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Uhh.....I'm almost sure that most of the high-end Ibanez 7 strings have tremelos. I think the Steve Vai signature has one.
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My bad...I guess I didn't check hard enough. But my opinion will stay the same for now...
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2006-08-23, 17:59
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My bad...I guess I didn't check hard enough. But my opinion will stay the same for now...
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Guitar manufacturers know that people who buy 7 strings are most likely going to be using them in a metal/shred context. So although you don't have a wide variety of pickups to chooose from, I would have to say most of them would be built for high output.
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2006-08-23, 18:47
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Sorry, maybe i didn't say it in more understandable way...
What i've wanted to say is 6string gtr is used for a different things than 7stringer...and by that i didn't say anything new, but you know, logically speaking, 7string is better 'cause of the bigger range, you have not to tune to B or whatever on your 6string guitar, if u have 7string, so they are better, but if u have a small hands, well say "ta-ta" to 7strings anyways...i have a 6string guitar, but i hope that 1 day i will be able to afford first a better 6stringer, than to buy some 7 string Ibanez ( i think it's labelled RG1527, it's Prestige series or something).
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Yeah and they have 7 string versions of EMG-81 and EMG-85, what more could you want?
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Yeah, but I'd pefer to have passive pickups instead of actives, a tonal preference is another way of saying it. I only use DiMarzio X2N as bridge pickups, which I know they have a 7 string version of that. But if Dimarzio ever comes out with a 7 string PAF Pro I will seriously consider getting 7 strings. |
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Yeah, but I'd pefer to have passive pickups instead of actives, a tonal preference is another way of saying it. I only use DiMarzio X2N as bridge pickups, which I know they have a 7 string version of that. But if Dimarzio ever comes out with a 7 string PAF Pro I will seriously consider getting 7 strings.
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im not sure, but i think 7 string paf pro's already exist.
also 7 strings are not ''better'' for their bigger range, its al based on personal opiniouns 
also theres plenty of metal bands that play in B or Bb or even A with 6 strings
ive had the idea once, to build a 7 string, with that d-tuna thing on the G string, to change it from F# to G so u could play reagular B tuning (b e a d f# B) and regular E tuning (e a d g b e) on the same guitar
not sure if that d tuna thing even works but hell its just an idea
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I know I saw a 7 string version of the PAF, but not PAF Pro, I'll check again later. But even if there is I'm gonna stick with my 6 strings.
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2006-08-24, 06:29
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6, but only tried a 7 once briefly.
a related question: those of you who have a 7-string for playing in B instead of a 6 tuned down to B, do you tune the G string down to F#, or do you just shift your fretting on that string by one fret? i would think tune the string down, but just curious.
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Actually, I played a 6 string in B for ages, but I always knew I'd be buying a 7 string, and my bands other guitarist played a 7 already, so I kept my G string in G rather than F# which is the "normal" way for 6 strings tuned in B.
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also 7 strings are not ''better'' for their bigger range, its al based on personal opiniouns
also theres plenty of metal bands that play in B or Bb or even A with 6 strings .
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But still that doesn't mean they are right. I'm not saying, for sure there are guys who played the 7string and not liked it, but IMO 7string guitar is the opportunity to expand the sound, to grow. And i'm not saying that 'cause of this or that band plays 7string so i have to play it also, i'm saying 'cause the covers of other bands doesn't bother me at all anymore. I'm just looking for axe that could help me. So yes, the bigger or wider range or whatever, plays the role for me. That's my opinion.
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But still that doesn't mean they are right. I'm not saying, for sure there are guys who played the 7string and not liked it, but IMO 7string guitar is the opportunity to expand the sound, to grow. And i'm not saying that 'cause of this or that band plays 7string so i have to play it also, i'm saying 'cause the covers of other bands doesn't bother me at all anymore. I'm just looking for axe that could help me. So yes, the bigger or wider range or whatever, plays the role for me. That's my opinion.
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euhm what has that got to do with my post??
i just pointed out that 7 strings are not better, somethign being better or worse is al based on personal opiniouns. so obviously u prefer 7 strings and thats cool
ive owned a 7 string and i liked it alot, the way the neck felt etc, i like wider neck alot.
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I play a seven string. A few years back I joined a band who were tuning to B and since I needed to buy a new guitar anyway 7 string seemed like a more sensible option than buying a 6 string and tuning down. Also I have a woefuly small penis and the extra string helps me feel like more of a man. I prefer the 7 string anyway. If I bought a second guitar now I'd get a 6 string, but if I had no guitar I'd buy the 7 string first over the 6 string.
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7, for even tension and intonation. Everything from Cryptopsy to Steve Vai and I don't have to change tunings.
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there are more pick-ups out there for six strings like EMG for example only have 2 7-string pick-ups and has more in six string
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I own 4 guitars;
-Jackson DXMG with custom paint and neck (6 string)
-Schector Damien 7 String
-Ibanez GSA60 6 string
-Fender 7 string acoustic
Its a 50/50 opinion from me. REason is that I play in shit loads of bands. One band I would use my 6 string guitars tuned to D or D flat for more smoother, tremolo picking, technical and sorta heavy break down styled songs.
Then I would use a 7 string guitar that emphasizes more on groove and brutality.
its weird, but I prefer mostly 7 string just because it gives me a high playing slower groovin' face pounding type of shit. But i really wouldnt recommend a 7 string for technical shit unless ur using the strings from low E to High E for your technical riffage and use ur B string for mostly breakdowns or power chord stuff.
its weird, i hope my screwed up english hasnt left u in confusion.
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I'm going through this uncertainty myself too at the moment.
I like both 6-strings and 7-strings and I'm driving myself nuts. I think I'll end up building a custom twin neck guitar ala' Michael Angelo haha
Anyway, I was thinking about buying a 6-string and downtuning it to D, sort of half way to get the best of both worlds, so to speak. 'Cause as I see it, even though a 7-string has the extended range, you can't play certain fast riffing.
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I've never extensively sat down and played a 7 stringer, but the one brief time I did I played the intro to I Cum Blood by Cannibal Corpse, no problem. 7 stringers are strung up with 10-56, basically just like a 6 stringer, just with a low b string guage .056. So you shouldnt have trouble trem picking and stuff like that. What guage strings do you use on your 6 string guitar?
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'Cause as I see it, even though a 7-string has the extended range, you can't play certain fast riffing.
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Yeah, playing fast isnt really a problem on a 7 string. Nevermore do it perfectly. But like 6 strings, there are low models and low model 7 string would have sub-par necks that would make playing fast difficult.
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Compare these people to the norm, say, Muhammed Suiçmez for instance who seems to think that lots of poorly strung together riffs spaced awkwardly around fancy monotonous sweeps covers up the fact that his ideas and songs are really quit boring.
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I don't think you hear Morbid Angel having any issues with any type of fast riffing on 7 strings.
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That's not what I meant actually. Like if you have a 7-string and you want to play a song which is written on say, a D tuning or any other tuning besides B, you'd have a problem with some fast palm muted riffing. You'd have to slide up and down really fast. Or else use a capo. I don't know if I explained myself well enough. It's hard for me to explain it like this. I'm not a good guitarist anyway so I could be wrong. 
Anyway, after hearing Exhumed's "Horrific Expulsion of Gore" demo again, I think I'll forget about 6-stringers and go for a 7-string. Peace.
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That's not what I meant actually. Like if you have a 7-string and you want to play a song which is written on say, a D tuning or any other tuning besides B, you'd have a problem with some fast palm muted riffing. You'd have to slide up and down really fast. Or else use a capo. I don't know if I explained myself well enough. It's hard for me to explain it like this. I'm not a good guitarist anyway so I could be wrong.
Anyway, after hearing Exhumed's "Horrific Expulsion of Gore" demo again, I think I'll forget about 6-stringers and go for a 7-string. Peace. |
It shouldn't be a problem. You could either:
A.) Transfer all the notes so it'll sound right. (ie. Instead of open low E string on a 6, just play low B on the 3rd fret, so it'll still be "D").
B.) Tune down a whole step.
Either way, it shouldn't be too difficult for you to work around stuff like that. I tune to Bb and can play Incantation songs on my 7-string alright using "A" method.
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Nope, that's not what I was referring to, but thanks anyway for your help. It's a little awkward 'cause I can't show you what I mean and my English isn't that good to explain it either but I'll try...
So to play songs in any of these tunings (Eb, D, Db and C) on a 7-string, you'd have to slide your hand up and down very quickly to be able to play certain fast muted chord/open 'E' riffs. I would use a capo in this case.
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Just pretend the 7 string doesnt have the 7th string for a moment. Tune the guitar to any one of your desired tunings. Then, figure out how may half-steps you detuned all the other strings. Finally, detune the 7th string that many half steps and now you have a 7 string in, lets say D tuning with a low A string.
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i've never played a 7 string..but i cannot deny that having an extra string provides more options. however i also think you can come up with endless variation without the aid of an extra string.
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I think this is as pointless as comparing a violin to a cello, or a 4 string bass to a 5 stringer. I consider 7 strings to be a different instrument... I have my Ibanez Universe UV7BK but I generally play more on my 6-string guitars, though the 7 is always great to have when looking for different sounds. I go for my 7 when I'm in the mood for slower doomy shit and virtuoso ish stuff, and of course Morbid Angel/Behemoth/Lost Soul stuff, but hit my 6-stringers for everything else.
I can't vote because it just wouldn't make sense.
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Just pretend the 7 string doesnt have the 7th string for a moment. Tune the guitar to any one of your desired tunings. Then, figure out how may half-steps you detuned all the other strings. Finally, detune the 7th string that many half steps and now you have a 7 string in, lets say D tuning with a low A string.
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That's what I often think about when playing other band's songs on my (lefty) 7-string. I keep mine a wholetone down, so that's 6-string D or 7-string A.
One thing you can do with 7's is play 7-string chords! I managed to fit all the seven notes of a 13th chord onto it.
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I think this is as pointless as comparing a violin to a cello, or a 4 string bass to a 5 stringer. I consider 7 strings to be a different instrument... I have my Ibanez Universe UV7BK but I generally play more on my 6-string guitars, though the 7 is always great to have when looking for different sounds. I go for my 7 when I'm in the mood for slower doomy shit and virtuoso ish stuff, and of course Morbid Angel/Behemoth/Lost Soul stuff, but hit my 6-stringers for everything else.
I can't vote because it just wouldn't make sense.
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So to play songs in any of these tunings (Eb, D, Db and C) on a 7-string, you'd have to slide your hand up and down very quickly to be able to play certain fast muted chord/open 'E' riffs. I would use a capo in this case.
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You can still tune a seven string you know... But I don't.
I have a floyd on mine, so tuning is not an option , unless a string breaks.
But it's fine. The other day i plugged in the tuner and all the strings were almost all fine after about a month of abuse. I just did little adjustments with the fine tuners and I was set again.
So I guess this is a small disadvantage. A 7 string without a floyd would be better, but I just transpose everything into B. It's not that hard, I add 3 frets in D for the B string etc, I've gotten rather good at it so I can transpose tab quickly .
Most of my favourite bands use B tuning anyway (SoP (7 gtr), Cryptopsy, Cephalic Carnage, Gorgasm, Nile (drop the B a step), etc.).
Playing songs in E is not too hard, I can sort of block out the B string and concentrate on lower six.
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I think this is as pointless as comparing a violin to a cello, or a 4 string bass to a 5 stringer. I consider 7 strings to be a different instrument... I have my Ibanez Universe UV7BK but I generally play more on my 6-string guitars, though the 7 is always great to have when looking for different sounds. I go for my 7 when I'm in the mood for slower doomy shit and virtuoso ish stuff, and of course Morbid Angel/Behemoth/Lost Soul stuff, but hit my 6-stringers for everything else.
I can't vote because it just wouldn't make sense.
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you are crazy as the last guy that said that. its one extra string..aka one more octave. NOT A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT INSTRUMENT. violin and cello sure! those ARE different instruments. 6 and 7 string guitars? cmon man! wake the fuck up! |
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Sorry for digging up this old thread again... I just need to ask something, if you don't mind.
Ok, so with a 7-string guitar, one has more range BUT to play in different tunings, one would have to either:
1) Tune down to the tuning required and play on the E string.
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2) Tune UP the 7-string (I don't like this idea myself).
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3) Use a capo. (It's worth mentioning that it seems there's a possibility that there are no 7-string capos on the market! People have told me that they use two 6-string capos together to do the job or use 12-string capos.)
Whereas in order to play in different tunings with a 6-string, one would have to tune down to the desired tuning and that's it.
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I dont have a 7 stringer, but all of this still makes sense. I would never tune UP my guitar since that would put even more tension on it (it already has 13s on it in standard tuning). The most logical one of those is to tune down to desired tuning, or number one.
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Sorry for digging up this old thread again... I just need to ask something, if you don't mind.
Ok, so with a 7-string guitar, one has more range BUT to play in different tunings, one would have to either:
1) Tune down to the tuning required and play on the E string.
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2) Tune UP the 7-string (I don't like this idea myself).
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3) Use a capo. (It's worth mentioning that it seems there's a possibility that there are no 7-string capos on the market! People have told me that they use two 6-string capos together to do the job or use 12-string capos.)
Whereas in order to play in different tunings with a 6-string, one would have to tune down to the desired tuning and that's it.
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personaly, id keep a 7 string in the same tuning all the time, like beadgbe, and id use a 6 string to tune down to any tuning basically.
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I prefer like 7 strings.
I plan on getting one soon.
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yeah like k13m said keep it at standard. but if you do downtune dont go past g# things will start to sound shitty past that
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Has anyone here played both an ibanez RG1527 (7 string) and a RG1570 (6 string) and compared them? Like how the necks compare in playability. They both have Wizard Prestiges but they're still probably a little different. Just wondering since I'm thinking about selling my current guitar and getting a good RG.
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now I prefer 7 strings, because then I can tune to standard E and get an extra high pitched string at the bottom of the board, in case I need to hurt someone's head.
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3) Use a capo. (It's worth mentioning that it seems there's a possibility that there are no 7-string capos on the market! People have told me that they use two 6-string capos together to do the job or use 12-string capos.)
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I have a regular spring-grip (6 string) capo, this one specifically, and it fits over all the strings on my 7 fine, no buzzing of dampened strings at all.
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I don't think you really need to down-tune on a 7-string, just change the way you play what ever, I do that anyway 
I can't really pick between 6 or 7 strings, I love both. I think I prefer my 7 string for rythm playing and 6's for lead/soloing, you get the nice low, tight sound from the 7 string but it's a little harder (for me) to play solos on one. I have a 7 in Bb and a 6 in Bb, I love both to bits! |
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I have a regular spring-grip (6 string) capo, this one specifically, and it fits over all the strings on my 7 fine, no buzzing of dampened strings at all. |
I love your 7. I want the exact same one. |
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I don't think you really need to down-tune on a 7-string, just change the way you play what ever, I do that anyway
I can't really pick between 6 or 7 strings, I love both. I think I prefer my 7 string for rythm playing and 6's for lead/soloing, you get the nice low, tight sound from the 7 string but it's a little harder (for me) to play solos on one. I have a 7 in Bb and a 6 in Bb, I love both to bits! |
Yeah technical riffs are fucking hard on 7 strings, but easier on 6 stringers.
OH well I love them too. my 7 is only used to pound low end.
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The normal 6 string suits me just well. I don't see the point in 7 string guitars.
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7's are awesome cause you have basically 2 tunings in 1 in a normal BEADGBE tuning, and you can get the regular B like on a 6-string if you drop the G only a half step. And drop the B a fullstep and you've got drop A. So it's like 4 tunings at your fingertips with little/no modifications, even on a Floyd guitar.
But even though I own an Ibanez Universe I'll always be 6-string dude.
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6 is good- if it aint broke, dont fix it.
7 feels too cluttered.
as for tuning variability, i tuned in 5ths for a while. low E was octave below standard and from there tune up in 5ths. instant transformation, feels like youre playing a violin or cello, all classical and shit.
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I have only once had the occasion to play a 7-string and that was for a short time. I'd switch at any time to one of these.
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