well, i can sweep a little but it always sounds verry muddy, and I've been looking around on some sites for how to do it clean. They told to mute the strings slightly with you thumb ( picking hand ) but when I do this it just cause to mute out all strings. How should I do this ?

http://www.myguitarworkshop.com/Art..._discipline.htm


the is the site i'm talking about. I really want to sweep clean but I just don't understand what he's saying. prolly 'cause i'm dutch. but can someone help me. little video ? or some pics of how to do this thumb technique ?

thanks in advance

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It just takes a shit load of practise man.

Muting with your right hand wont work.

The correct method is to mute the strings with the fretting fingers as you pull them off before the next note in the sweep. Dont try specifically to do that, it will jsut slow you down.

However, if you practise your sweeping religiously it will become second nature.

on the site, he wasnt realy talkign about sweeppicking clean, more just playing clean in general, that he mutes all the strings with his fretting hands thumb. sumtin liek that.

as for the sweeping, try to take it realy slow first, like doktorskell sayd, u need to practice this alot so the move of the fretting hand and the picking hand, go perfectly in time with each other, and the more u sweep, the cleaner it will get eventually.

its still fucked up hard though

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Agreed. Its fucked how hard it is to sweep cleanly. But all the practise pays off in the end

start slow, and focus on precision, and everything being dead on, slow but perfect, and slowly try and increase the tempo/speed

Try practising with a sock tied loosely round the nut and first fret. This will dampen unwanted string noise and allow you to hear clearly which notes you are having trouble in hitting cleanly without them being overwhelmed by string noise.

When you can play all the notes crisply and evenly, then worry about how to reduce string noise, although this will naturally be reduced if you play your sweeps as cleanly as possible.

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^ great album of the day, man (Mithras, Worlds..) i love that thing. i am gonna try that sock thing, thanks. as for pulling off sweeps that are both clean and in time, i find the upstroke to be way harder than the downstroke.

My problem is when I leave a string with my index it starts vibrating again and it sounds fucked up.

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theres a thread called "sweeps made easy" by a guy called MFKR666. it's still on this site i think. it helped me out. its simple but effective.

That thread is a joke.

Here's how I practice my sweeping:

EXTREMELY SLOW.

I set the metronome to like 40 bpm.
1st beat - sound note.
2nd beat - check to see left and right hand are relaxed and in right place.
3rd beat - think about what I'm going to do next.
4rth beat - get ready to sound next note.

And you speed up, speed up until in a few months you've got it down.
EDIT: Forgot to mention that the hard part is you cannot go over more than 5 bpm a week, and you should never ever force out a sweep during this time until you can do it clean.

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Do you think some pedal,more/less distortion, noise gate or something would help to play it cleaner and sound better?

I mean a compressor or noise gate or another plus pedal distortion (or minor distortion).

Thank you.





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In the beginning, one should practise sweeping without distortion so it's easier to identify whether the sweep has been executed cleanly. But most, myself included, practise with distortion as it sounds better in the context of the music that we want to apply the technique.

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Why do people complicate things so much, or ask for advice in the form of rhetorical answers?

As with almost any skill, it's a case of having precision and accuracy as your muscle/mechanic memory develops. Just practice slowly, and work on small, concise movements, making sure that you're always playing it in time to the tempo with correct spacing, that's the mostimportant thing to developing it. Don't waste your time trying to find ways to mute it with your picking hand etc, as that will come naturally, as it did with even the most basic of things as playing power chords. I'd advise to get something like a backing track in Aminor, and practice basic Aminor sweeps over it. Begin at a comfortable region, maybe around 60-70bpm, and work on a plan that will see you to 120bpm in the forseeable future

When it comesto guitar, advice is mainly for reassurance or directional guidance, but you'll have to put in the hours if you want to learn the skills

JohnMansley - Nice explanation, but being british, it's hard to imagine the hybrid of your accent and online phrasing


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I set the metronome to like 40 bpm.
1st beat - sound note.
2nd beat - check to see left and right hand are relaxed and in right place.
3rd beat - think about what I'm going to do next.
4rth beat - get ready to sound next note.


That may develop you bad habits... A frantic display of checking if things are correct between sweeps. Let it come naturally man

In the practice method I described above, it would be impossible for the player to develop any bad habits because they would be practicing slow and intense enough to realize them all when they appear, thus making it easier to fix them through muscle memory.

Letting it come naturally is the mistake. Your fingers are your humble servants - they don't know right or wrong until you show it to them. Practicing strictly this way will ensure that your finger memory executing any technique will be wired perfectly and you will be guaranteed to never make a mistake because your fingers have been trained to automatically execute the technique flawlessly. Only then does it become 'natural.'

Alot of technical flaws in people's playing could be fixed easily if they stopped, slowed down, and saw that what their fingers are doing 'naturally' inhibits their playing. I always say it's not about how much you practice- it's simply how you practice that makes you a better player. You could practice the same bad sweeps forever and you'll never get better - just better at sweeping bad.

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My dialect is not as broad as some Scousers, but I do tend to be more grammatically correct in writing than in speech.

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Yeah it's difficult to sweep cleanly. It just takes practice. What I did to learn Vital Remains-Decristianize was play the solo on the clean channel. Like what John said. It helps to distiguish if the sweep was played cleanly.

Noise gates help also but they are not necassary.

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Yeah I know how you mean. I wasn't being an arsehole, just I know some really broad Yorkshire people who have an entirely different online persona because of the diffrerences in their speech and typing etc

Whilst you're practicing them though, take time to focus on learning it at straight 16ths and also in triplets... For me that cemented the technique as well as giving more options to prevent boredom

sweep sweep

sweeping is something that just takes time to master. you can ask all the questions you want and try to learn the techniques, but in the end then only thing thats gonna help at all is time and practice.

if you really wanna sweep well, just practice it every day. youll eventually understand exactly how to do it and youll have it perfect in a few months.

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Now im not the best at sweeping, but a trick a friend tought me to "sound a little cleaner", is to use your neck pu, and give it some reverb. Not the BEST idea, but it will give you some tone and helps you get that "sweep" effect going.

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yes, i almost always use the neck pickup when sweeping

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here's a bastard hippy excercise I invented



this pattern can be carried on its logical progression up the fretboard ie Bmajor->Eminor