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Suggest some metalcore bands for me to check out
I know some people here aren't fans of metalcore, but I'm looking at my cd collection, and it's lacking alot of "diversity" if you can figure out what I mean. Not saying I don't like the bands I listen to, but it gets boring after a while.
So, being the neurotic fuck I usually am, I'm gonna hit each general area of metal one by one and get different bands to add to my collection. But I don't know too much about metalcore. The only metalcore band I have in my collection is Killswitch Engage, and I like them alot. I've listened to a few bands like God Forbid and Bleeding Through, so I know those are 2 bands I'm going to look for. But I'm wondering what you think. Because I value the opinions of people I don't know. 
No seriously, I'll appreciate any help.
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It sounds like the thread starter wants the Gothenburg influenced section of metalcore with those sung choruses. So there's no point in suggesting the good metalcore bands like The Dillinger Escape Plan, Botch, The Red Chord, The Hope Conspiracy, Converge, Drowningman, Stamping Ground, early Cave In, etc.
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It sounds like the thread starter wants the Gothenburg influenced section of metalcore with those sung choruses. So there's no point in suggesting the good metalcore bands like The Dillinger Escape Plan, Botch, The Red Chord, The Hope Conspiracy, Converge, Drowningman, Stamping Ground, early Cave In, etc.
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No. Any form of metalcore will do for me. I don't know too much about metalcore (other than the fact that I like it), and that's why I'm starting with bands in that genre.
A good majority of my collection is Nu-Metal. As much as I l still like Nu-Metal, it gets old after a while and I wanna see what's out there.
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I know some people here aren't fans of metalcore, but I'm looking at my cd collection, and it's lacking alot of "diversity" if you can figure out what I mean. Not saying I don't like the bands I listen to, but it gets boring after a while.
So, being the neurotic fuck I usually am, I'm gonna hit each general area of metal one by one and get different bands to add to my collection. But I don't know too much about metalcore. The only metalcore band I have in my collection is Killswitch Engage, and I like them alot. I've listened to a few bands like God Forbid and Bleeding Through, so I know those are 2 bands I'm going to look for. But I'm wondering what you think. Because I value the opinions of people I don't know.
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Alright, probably being the forum "expert" on the "hardcore scene," I'll help out.
Unearth
As I Lay Dying
BETWEEN THE BURIED AND ME
August Burns Red
THROUGH THE EYES OF THE DEAD
The Red Chord
Symphony In Peril
Haste the Day
Every Time I Die
DEAD TO FALL
Darkest Hour (which are more Thrash/Metalcore, but)
The Absence (whose guitarist posts on this forum occasionally)
The Black Dahlia Murder (death metal, but CHECK THEM OUT)
The Chariot
Norma Jean (new and old)
Scars of Tomorrow
Sinai Beach
TEXAS IS ON FIRE
Throwdown (if you like Bleeding Through, this is BT's hardcore style, but not the same band. They are both from the OC in California)
Now. I suggest checking all of these out if you want to "expand your collection." Any more questions, just ask.
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I don't suppose anybody's heard of Underule? Like Stampin' Ground, but heavier to these ears.
Also try Onedice if you can get hold of 'em.
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Alright, probably being the forum "expert" on the "hardcore scene," I'll help out.
Unearth
As I Lay Dying
BETWEEN THE BURIED AND ME
August Burns Red
THROUGH THE EYES OF THE DEAD
The Red Chord
Symphony In Peril
Haste the Day
Every Time I Die
DEAD TO FALL
Darkest Hour (which are more Thrash/Metalcore, but)
The Absence (whose guitarist posts on this forum occasionally)
The Black Dahlia Murder (death metal, but CHECK THEM OUT)
The Chariot
Norma Jean (new and old)
Scars of Tomorrow
Sinai Beach
TEXAS IS ON FIRE
Throwdown (if you like Bleeding Through, this is BT's hardcore style, but not the same band. They are both from the OC in California)
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ouch...i dont know if mentioning them will go over too well in this forum....
my opinion: they have a bit of talent....but they THINK they are METAL....wtf?!
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^^come on... they are good, but they exaggerate the whole "we are so fucking metal" thing... i like trivium...
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im a big fan of metalcore, so i guess ill add my two cents.
caliban
norma jean
every time i die
as i lay dying
between the buried and me
lamb of god
shadows fall
unearth
bleeding through
bullet for my valentine
new atreyu
dillinger escape plan
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i want to elaborate on one of my choices, the new atreyu. their new album is really fucking good, more mature, way better guitar playing.
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caliban? then we shouldn´t forget HEAVEN SHALL BURN!!!
hm, okay... trivium is not metalcore, but what is it? thrash metal with horrible scream vocals and nice clean vocals? i thought trivium were together with unearth and killswitch the embodiment of metalcore...
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Trivium are metalcore. Metalcore, save for a few shining beacons, is rapidly turning into nu-thrash which, when you think about it, is basically just old thrash and NWOBHM regurgitated by younger exponents. But this is what metalcore has come to represent, whether it does so accurately is moot.
Refer to my earlier list for what I consider metalcore and throw in Minus.
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I wouldn't say Trivium were metalcore more like melodic hardcore from what I heard. Nut then I wouldn't really consider Killswitch Engage metalcore either cos like I think metalcore is a darker sort of realm with bands more talented and more extreme like Converge BTBAM Dillinger blah blah blah
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caliban? then we shouldn´t forget HEAVEN SHALL BURN!!!
hm, okay... trivium is not metalcore, but what is it? thrash metal with horrible scream vocals and nice clean vocals? i thought trivium were together with unearth and killswitch the embodiment of metalcore...
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And yeah, I usually classify Trivium as Heavy Metal/Thrash, or something along the lines. And not metal? I fail to see that one...
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Thanks for all the references. Next time I go to Best buy or some other CD place, I'll check them out.
I think this topic can be closed.
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Just order some of them, because some are going to be hard to find. Especially at Best Buy.
If you need album references for the artists i suggested, just let me know.
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Oh come on now guys, stop talking about trivium.
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I wouldn't say Trivium were metalcore more like melodic hardcore from what I heard. Nut then I wouldn't really consider Killswitch Engage metalcore either cos like I think metalcore is a darker sort of realm with bands more talented and more extreme like Converge BTBAM Dillinger blah blah blah
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So what album of theirs do you think I should get?
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Jane Doe. Hands down.
If you like Converge, then Minus (Iceland) are heavily influenced by them without ever sounding like them, if you know what I mean. If you look into them, get Jesus Christ Bobby. They radically changed their style after this album.
I'd suggest the following records, in no particular order:
Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity
Botch - We Are The Romans
Drowningman - Rock 'n' Roll Killing Machine (this has some of the best songtitles ever committed to paper)
You might also want to try Until Your Heart Stops by Cave In, although they went a bit more space-rock after this album with Jupiter (still excellent, though).
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I looked them up on wikipedia and they are described as Progressive Metalcore.
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Like for example, I knew this local black metal band that wore their corpse pain to practice/recording sessions.
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2006-07-15, 12:29
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i advise petitioning the empty sky over jane doe....musically....but jane doe is more accessible than PTES....
definitely get dillinger's calculating infinity and botch's we are romans
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I feel Petitioning The Empty Sky is less cohesive as an artistic offering whereas Jane Doe takes the listener on a journey.
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2006-07-15, 19:12
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Between The Buried And Me is not metalcore. There is no specific genre for their work, there for it is metal.
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I didn't say they were metalcore.
But they fit into the other things that I was suggesting.
Which is also the case of The Abscence, and sorry for the confusion. I figured you guys would've picked up that I wasn't calling every one of those bands metalcore.
And I haven't really listened to Converge. :-x Sounds strange, but as I cannot download music, i have to take what people send to me.
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The one time I go to check this thread, it mentions me getting fucked by a dude.
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2006-07-15, 19:50
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Like for example, I knew this local black metal band that wore their corpse pain to practice/recording sessions.
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man thats real dedication right there.
"this practice session is not evil enough!!! we must wear clown make-up!!!!!!!"
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2006-07-16, 01:52
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man thats real dedication right there.
"this practice session is not evil enough!!! we must wear clown make-up!!!!!!!"
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Haha. "And the drummer's innards must be showing!!!" "Hey man, what you doing with that axe?"
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2006-07-16, 01:56
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I didn't say they were metalcore.
But they fit into the other things that I was suggesting.
Which is also the case of The Abscence, and sorry for the confusion. I figured you guys would've picked up that I wasn't calling every one of those bands metalcore.
And I haven't really listened to Converge. :-x Sounds strange, but as I cannot download music, i have to take what people send to me.
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no converge? i can see if i can pull all of it off my ipod and send it to you...i have every single song ever recorded by them....at least i am 99% sure i have EVERY song
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2006-07-16, 03:18
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It really depends what you're looking for
Brutal "Deathcore":
Despised Icon
Job For a Cowboy
Suicide Silence
Dead Will Rise
The Faceless
Animosity
Beneath the Massacre
"Tech-Grind"-core:
Ed Gein
Ion Dissonance
Psyopus
The Sawtooth Grin
Gaussian Surface
Melodic Metalcore:
Through the Eyes of the Dead
August Burns Red
Darkest Hour
Dead to Fall
Between the Buried and Me
Glass Casket
As I Lay Dying
Other good metalcore shit:
From a Second Story Window
Norma Jean
Cursed
Misery Signals
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2006-07-16, 03:28
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Can some one explain to me why people like The Dillinger Escape Plan? Calculating Infinity was the first album in a while that made me sick to listen to. Psyopus far exceed them if you ask me, and are much more interesting to listen to in my opinion.
I don't know if anyone mentioned All That Remains
The album This Darkened Heart was nice, but I don't know about any others
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2006-07-16, 03:41
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Can some one explain to me why people like The Dillinger Escape Plan? Calculating Infinity was the first album in a while that made me sick to listen to. Psyopus far exceed them if you ask me, and are much more interesting to listen to in my opinion.
I don't know if anyone mentioned All That Remains
The album This Darkened Heart was nice, but I don't know about any others
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calculating infinity was released in like 99 or so. it was groundbreaking for its time,name another album like it released the same years or before. yeah, psyopus is more skilled but also standing on dillingers shoulders, totally derivitive. calculating infinity itself has good and horrible moments but thier originality cant be questioned IMO
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2006-07-16, 04:58
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Well I see now, so Caculating Infinity was groundbreaking. Well I'm glad their album helped create influnece bands that do things better. However listening to a band just because they were groundbreaking is strange to me.
I don't think I ever said they weren't groundbreaking though. Just that I think Psyopus is better.
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2006-07-16, 07:01
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Well I see now, so Caculating Infinity was groundbreaking. Well I'm glad their album helped create influnece bands that do things better. However listening to a band just because they were groundbreaking is strange to me.
I don't think I ever said they weren't groundbreaking though. Just that I think Psyopus is better.
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influence isnt the right word, its one thing to reference a band in your music and entirely another to simply lift another bands sound. actually to be more precise dillinger+orthrelm=psyopus, and they are tame compared to mighty orthrelm.
but yeah, fair enough, bands dont have to be original. thats just what i look for. i may not even like all of dillinger or orthrelms stuff, but such effort and risk i respect. for me its of a higher musical integrity than stuff thats entirely derivitive and musically pendatic.
and also you are comparing an album thats dated to a more recent band with more recent releases, a dated album from which psyopus is on the bandwagon, so to speak. check orthrelm out
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2006-07-16, 16:23
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I understand where you're coming from
orthrelm are really good. Can't help but to notice that the guitarist from orthrelm and psyopus sound exactly the same.
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2006-07-16, 17:20
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psyopus? more skilled than dillinger? how dare you...i love both bands but ben weinman is an amazing guitarist, and to hear him play riffs like he does in a band that is more hardcore influenced than metal...its amazing
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2006-07-16, 17:28
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i like dillingers drummer better, as far as his style is concerned, but i believe psyopus makes more complex music overall.
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2006-07-16, 17:30
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i can agree to a degree with that. all i know is that both bands are much more ridiculously talented than i am.
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2006-07-16, 17:51
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i actually tried to contact psyopus about filling in on drums a while ago on a whim. someone from the band posted in the drum section here. they asked me for a video recording of my playing.
i chickened out because there is no way i can handle thier material, or even travel to, i believe upstate new york to audition. when i got some mp3s to hear them i wasnt really crazy on thier sound anyways. good moments mixed with alot of bad ones
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2006-07-16, 20:21
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Known as Stranglefuck for a short time, in which they also have demo floating around, known as the Stranglefuck Demo. The Strangelfuck demo is only Chris Arp playing guitar and a drum machine.
Greg Herman quit because he wanted to stay local and be with his wife. Derek Roddy of Hate Eternal tried out for drums but was rejected. He was ultra fast but not technical enough. Lee Fisher got the job instead
Derek Roddy being rejected for Psyopus is a good reason to chicken out..
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2006-07-16, 20:57
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ultimate suggestion...
Nights Like These 
i love them. i'm obsessed. talented. www.myspace.com/nlt
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2006-07-16, 21:30
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i cant tell if was arrogance or if it took balls
roddy is definately a straight forward player and they were correct to not go for him. but i would think he could hold down psyopus's material given the proper time,transcription to learn, maybe not. his instruction videos indicate he is alot more versitile than his recorded work has let on. he is one of the most cleanest players,metronome timing, almost robotic.
i myself would hate to attempt to notate thier songs let alone try to learn them, i wasnt that familiar with thier music when i replied to thier post.
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2006-07-17, 07:39
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I think they're just hardcore bands, old chap.
It's amazing how Roddy didn't get the Psyopus gig. Can you imagine what it was like when they rejected him? Three young upstarts telling one of the greatest death metal drummers of his generation, "Sorry, dude, I don't think you have the chops for this band"? That must've been an experience for Roddy, I can tell you.
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2006-07-17, 07:47
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Exactly what i thought, hey someone said psyopus was grind in that grind thread, I think they are like opposite completely.
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2006-07-17, 07:48
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Exactly what i thought, hey someone said psyopus was grind in that grind thread, I think they are like opposite completely.
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2006-07-17, 20:13
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2006-07-17, 21:07
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hmm. this list seems like alot of the chugga-chugga nyc stuff that occured earlier than this present metalcore stuff. im not that familiar with those bands but i know the ny/nj hardcore scene had been,more or less,playing really stripped down metal for quite a while<never got into it>. not saying all the bands you listed are from there but ive heard biohazard and madball. i list earth crisis as a joke
i almost wanted to mention alot of the crust/crossover bands that technically fit the definition of "metalcore" but are a whole world apart just to show the obsurdity of the request. bands like dystopia,assuck,nausea,apox,dregs,disrupt,damad etc. etc.
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...then I wouldn't really consider Killswitch Engage metalcore either cos like I think metalcore is a darker sort of realm...
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Your just saying that because Howard Jones is black. 
Through The Eyes Of The Dead (Great Drummer!!!)
As I Lay Dying (my favorite band)
The Showdown (great local metalcore band)
Written In Red (saw them a couple nights ago)
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No he isn't!
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