Hey, so I've decided that I'm gonna sell my 1960 cab that I've got coupled with my 5150. I'm thinking of getting my 5150 modded by FJA or something, and then getting a 2x12 instead. My Marshall was pretty good but I'd like to get a lower deeper sound kind of like a Mesa. So I've had my eyes on the Genz Benz 2x12, or some Avatar 2x12. I was wondering if vintage 30's would go good with this amp for that sound?

Well Vintage 30's are a pretty bright agressive speaker. If you want more bass and are getting a 2x12 I would recommend putting in one V30 and one G12H30. That H30's have much more low end and fill in pretty much anything that V30 leaves out.

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Why not load your 4x12 with G12-T75's? Those have a deeper frequency curve than the V30's, slightly scooped with plenty of bass response and high sizzle. If you are looking at a 2x12 for portability, then still try out the 75's. They are pretty much designed as a metal speaker.

i wouldnt suggest the g12h-30+v30 mix in a 2x12, since the g12h-30 is only a 30w speaker, making that cab rated at 60w, and the 5150 is a 120w amp. maybe in a 4x12.

i really think the best way to get serious low end is from high rated speakers. my eminance swamp thangs are rate 150w a piece and they bring the rumble. im seriously thinking about swapping out 2 of the vintage 30's in my framus dragon cab for a pair of the swamp thangs to see if its a good mix for added low end.


im willing to bet his 1960 marshall cab is already loaded with g12t-75's.. since thats the speakers they come with stock.

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You're probably right, unless he owns one that has other speakers in it. Or one that says 300watts on the back but Marshall had no 75's in stock that day so they put in a quad of what they had. MArshall is sort of funny that way. They use what they have in stock at the time. My amp chassis is stamped serial # as a 50 watter, but the screened code and everything else says 100 that it is.

Ahh yes you are right. Although the H30 is rated at 30 watts and a V30 is 60 watts which would make the cab 90 watts, but that is still probably not enough.

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Another thing you also have to remember is the db rating of the speaker. If they are too mismatched one will overpower the other audibly.

Ooow! That might be badass actually.

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I dunno, I'm leaning towards the genz so far. Looks very sturdy and well built, and reviews are good for the tone. I'll try to go to a shop and try it out sometime this week.

oh yeah those are freakin nice too. they sound so big. get that. i would

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never heard of marshall doing anything like that with speakers, just throwing whatever they have laying around in there... not practical...


no, the cab would be a technically be rated a 60w cab. since your power section isnt smart, its not going to know that it can send 60w through the vintage 30 but only 30w through the h30. basically if you push it past 60w you could blow it, and the h30 would be the first to go. plain and simple.

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Ah I see, thanks for clearin that up.

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They wouldn't put anything into a cab that was laying around. Nothing like 4 completely mismatched speakers. But I have seen instances where a different set was in a cabinet then what the plate said on the back of the cabinet. We are talking v30's in a cab designated for T75's or vice versa. 75's in a 1960TV cabinet. I have only seen this a few times and each time it was a brand new out of the box cabinet.

never heard of that happening. the only way they would do that is if it were a total mistake, v30's typically cost more than t75's, and the v30 marshall cabs also cost more than the standard 1960's.

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