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Best solo ever?
I saw this bloody list of "100 best solos ever," not one! mentioning megadeth, priest, jason becker, malmsteen, steve vai, or ever shred/speed metal! so, i think its time for a new top 100 solo list--
im starting off with-
Hanger 18 - Megadeth
Forbidden City - Jason Becker
Annihilation of the Wicked - Nile
continue if possible.
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Necrophagist - Fermented offal discharge
Vital Remains - Dechristinize ( melodic solo sweeps
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necrophagist - epitaph
children of bodom - hate me
necrophagist - the end of fermented
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"Darkest Hour- Sound the Surrender" definitly has my favorite solo.
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Megadeth- Good Morning
The solo is just evil. I've never seen anyone tab it correctly and I still can't get the whole thing right. There are just so many little things going on.
I could kick Dave in the nads for writing suck a hard ass solo.
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Martyr - Hopeless Hopes
Days Of Perversion - Crushed
Insomnium - In The Halls Of awaiting
Dragon Force - Fury Of The Storm
Soilwork - possesing the angels
Btbam - Selkies
Necrophagist - hmmm i really dig the solo Diminished To B
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Nigel's solo in Spinal Tap with the two guitars plus violin. Raw badassery.
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Necrophagist - (fermented & Advanced Corpse)
Cryptopsy - some blasphemy album songs (pathological frolic, serial messiah)
some others (cold hate, warm blood etc)
These are the most emotional solos for me.
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Cryptopsy - We Bleed
Dying Fetus - Praise The Lord(Opium Of The Masses)
Black Sabbath - Wicked World
Morbid Angel - Where The Slime Live(or any other solo by them)
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Any Skolnick solos
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Cast Down The Heretic - Nile
Jonas, Slayer of the Gods - Nile (Yes I am aware it's Unas)
Any Necrophagist solo. Notably Only Ash Remains
Probing Tranquility - Sleep Terror
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I saw this bloody list of "100 best solos ever," not one! mentioning megadeth, priest, jason becker, malmsteen, steve vai, or ever shred/speed metal! so, i think its time for a new top 100 solo list--
im starting off with-
Hanger 18 - Megadeth
Forbidden City - Jason Becker
Annihilation of the Wicked - Nile
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Anything from Peace Sells, Dave's and Chris's
Anything from Rust in Peace
Anything from Think This
Any Skolnick solo
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Cryptopsy - We Bleed
Cryptopsy - Phobophile
Necrophagist - Ignominious and Pale
Nile - Cast Down the Heretic
Megadeth - Hangar 18
High On Fire - 10,000 Years
Anthrax - Inside Out (Dimebag solo)
Pantera - The Great Southern Trendkill
Metallica - Blackened
Suffocation - Depths of Depravity
Morbid Angel - Summoning Redemption
Vital Remians - Dechristianize
Black Sabbath - War Pigs
Just a few of my favourites.
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glad to see some love for WEEE BLEEEEDDDDD but the solo in faceless unknown is hands down my favorite cryptopsy solo
how about the solo in war? EMOTION!
i really dig the harmonized solo in ASSASSIN SQUAD by malevolent creation, but its a james murphy lead
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Cryptopsy and Necrophagist got badass solos.
From Necrophagist, you pretty much named them all, except Intestinal Incubation!
From Cryptopsy, Abigor, Emaciate, Angelskingarden
Suffocation on Pierced From Within did an awesome job with their solos.
Suffocation - Brood Of Hatred
Suffocation - Depths Of Depravity
Suffocation - Thrones Of Blood
Suffocation - To Weep Once More
The solo on Retry?Abort?Ignore? by Martyr is so weird, but so awesome at the same time.
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And the solo in the song Child in Time by Deep Purple was the first solo I loved so it should be in there too.
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The best 2 solos you ever need care about are these:
ULVER - Hymn 2
MORBID ANGEL - Summoning Redemption [first song on gateways.]
other GREAT solo's though:
between the buried and me - selkies the endless obsession
unholy ghost - soul disment
cynic - how could i
illdisposed - i believe in me
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trendkill is sooooo fucking groovy, plain awesomeness.
cemetery gates probably has the most complete solo
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Wicked
see this is the apparent 100 best guitar solos:
http://guitar.about.com/library/bl100greatest.htm
Now you see what im talking about?
And its classic that a couple of you post some really really heavy thrash, then all of a sudden throw in some deep purple or sabbath, nice to see alot of people stick to thier routes.
But cryptopsy has the most favourable solos? I didnt see that one commin
Keep it goin though
Domination - Morbid Angel
Meshuggah - Entire Destroy Erase and Improve album.
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meshugguh have an entire album of just guitar soloing? ^ wow that must be enduring.
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That list has some Hammett, some Dime, some Rhoads, and some Eric Johnson in the top 20. So I'm not sure it's fair to say that metal or shredding are unrepresented. After that it also has Vai and Satriani. #36 is by Malmsteen. And so on. Metal and shred, considering their place in the overall context of music, are pretty fairly represented.
I'm really sick of seeing this every time somebody puts out a list of great guitarists. Metal guitarists aren't going to be on there in force. Why? Because they're not by and large the best guitarists in the world, and even more because they're not the best known.
What I am surprised to see is so little Gilmour.
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What I am surprised to see is so little Gilmour.
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I didn't mean the ones they included, which are all so obvious I didn't have to check the list to know they were there. But his solos on, say, 'Dogs' are better than many of the ones on that list, and more structurally integral to the song (Waters even gave him a writing credit on the song, which is not standard practice for Waters, because he though they leadwork was so clutch). That is a test of a great lead and a great lead player, for me, and one to which not many lead players can actually measure up.
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some unmentioned so far:
Death - Story to Tell
Edge of Sanity - Aftermath (the little solo that kicks off the song)
Cynic - How Could I (the last 2 minutes of the song are mind-numbing awesome)
edit: Infinity already mentioned Cynic.
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Necrophagist - Epitaph, Advanced Corpse Tumour
Scott Henderson - Dolemite
Pantera - Cemetary Gates, CFH
Victor Wooten - Overjoyed (actually a song)
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i love jon levaseur's solo (cryptopsy) they make me feel funny.
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All solos in None So Vile, and alot of Martyr solos are great.
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who DOESNT know the comfortably numb solo at some point in their guitar careers?
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I'm really sick of seeing this every time somebody puts out a list of great guitarists. Metal guitarists aren't going to be on there in force. Why? Because they're not by and large the best guitarists in the world, and even more because they're not the best known.
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The list itself is best solos, not best known solos.
although many songs on this do belong there, its not a question on who or who doesnt know the song, its the talent or technique put into it.
But i am sorry that i didnt see rhoads or vai on the list, that was my overlook. never-the-less, admit that not only most of the bands on it shouldnt be there, and the fact that there are far more supremly pulled off solos.
and just to put it out there, anyone here the solo in the powerrangers theme song? thats wicked.
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A well-known solo is sometime well-known for a reason. Pure talent doesn't mean shit if the context is wrong. This is a fact well-hidden from modern metalheads and fans of virtuosity in any era, but it's still a fact. Saying that there's a 'better pulled-off solo' out there doesn't mean it's a better one, it just means that you're more impressed by it. But an impressive solo for its own sake is just so much masturbation.
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FREEBIRD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All High On Fire and Sleep solos.
Matt Pike is kick ass.
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Stairway to Heaven hands down.
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Stairway sucks. Freebird is way better.
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Mine would have to be any pretty much any random solo on Carcass - Necroticism.
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lmfao. Freebird is amazing. Have you heard Phish's cover of it? Its hillarious.
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Jeez, that sounds like ass.
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The phish one? lol!
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not big on solos but always loved what slayer was doing late 80-early 90s. i dont think they are actually in key or anything, just a mindless shred of notes.
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It's technically not structured well or skillful, but The Storm Still Rages Inside by Orphaned Land has a fucking cool solo.
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lmfao. Freebird is amazing. Have you heard Phish's cover of it? Its hillarious.
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Pantera-Cemetary Gates
Children Of Bodom-Kissing The Shadows
Dragonforce-Through The Fire And Flames
Metallica-anything from Kill em All to And Justice For All
Megadeth-Holy Wars
Slayer-Anything from Hell Awaits to Seasons In The Abyss
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Wintersun-Winter madness.
Old mans child-The millenium king
Darkside-Hymn for the chosen ones
In Flames-December flower. The Hive
Iron Maiden-Caught somewhere in time, especially when 4:05 kicks in!!!
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A well-known solo is sometime well-known for a reason. Pure talent doesn't mean shit if the context is wrong. This is a fact well-hidden from modern metalheads and fans of virtuosity in any era, but it's still a fact. Saying that there's a 'better pulled-off solo' out there doesn't mean it's a better one, it just means that you're more impressed by it. But an impressive solo for its own sake is just so much masturbation.
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But that is SOMETIMES, and like i said, many of these belong here. And im not talking about songs that dont put talent in the right context, im talking about songs that werent on the list, that should be, due to the fact that its better. An impressive solo to me, and a well pulled off solo on its own is impressive for a reason as well.
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NONE OF THE CELTIC FROST SOLOS!!!!!!
Here's a few quickies.....
Metallica - Dyers Eve
Diamond Head - Am I Evil
Iron Maiden - Transylvania
All the Peace Sells album
Early Morbid Angel(like Slayer but in tune and mixed properly )
Scorpions - Sails of Charon
Ozzy - Revelation Mother Earth
Carcass - Heartwork
Suicidal Tendencies - How Will I laugh Tomorrow
Thin Lizzy - Black Rose
Judas Priest - Beyond the Realms of Death
I'll have to think of some more........
I'm gonna have to chuck in some Angus, maybe Let There Be Rock, Kicked in the Teeth or Whole Lotta Rosie
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I didn't mean the ones they included, which are all so obvious I didn't have to check the list to know they were there. But his solos on, say, 'Dogs' are better than many of the ones on that list, and more structurally integral to the song (Waters even gave him a writing credit on the song, which is not standard practice for Waters, because he though they leadwork was so clutch). That is a test of a great lead and a great lead player, for me, and one to which not many lead players can actually measure up.
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You mean the one where you can hardly hear any of the notes through the static?
Anyway:
In Flames- December Flower
YES- Any solo on Fragile
Dragonforce- Fury of the Storm
Opeth- Hours of Wealth
Santana- Europa
Allman Brothers- Jessica
Nevermore- This Godless Endeavor, Psalm of Lydia
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i would have to say:
Metallica- Blackend
Slayer- the whole "Reign in Blood" album
Opeth- Karma
Pantera- Cowboys From Hell
Megadeth- Five Magics
Black Sabbath- War Pigs
Lamb of God- Ashes of the Wake
Dream Theater- Honor Thy Father ( the solo at the end of the song)
Metallica- Am I Evil?
Anthrax- Deathrider
i'm sure i missed some but i don't have my iPod right now so these are the best ones i could think of.
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Man, i could barely hear half the songs off the Reign in blood album....
Five magics is decent, but have you heard the tornado of souls solo? best solo on the album right after hanger 18
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Metallica - Fade to Black (1st solo)
Stevie Ray Vaughan - Little Wing (with no vocals, pretty much the whole song is a solo)
Hate Eternal -Track 4 on I, Monarch. No I don't know what the hell the song title is
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Stu Hamm - Bass solo on the Satriani: Live in Los Angeles DVD
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Tornado of Souls is better than any of the Hangar 18 solos, though they are also quite good. I don't know what Friedman hit on that album and why he never hit it before or since, but man was it great.
Good call on Stevie's Little Wing. I need to find my copy of The Sky is Crying. I'm a pretty big fan of his solo on Chitlins Con Carne, too.
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Yeah there's some crazy ass speed playing and sounds, but they go on for at least 5 days and once you've heard one you've pretty much heard the rest on the album.
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Eh obrien, like, i know they sound like pussy's when they sing, but thier solo's are pretty top notch...the ones i heard at least.
Sure power metal isnt to great, but these guys know how to play.
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They can play, that's for sure. But they bore the hell out of me with their 103290671295036832 minute long solos.
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oh yeah, i forgot to mention in my list of what i think are good solos, "Dyers Eve" by Metallica. one of Kirk's best solos in my opinon.
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They can play, that's for sure. But they bore the hell out of me with their 103290671295036832 minute long solos.
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I just did two things:
1. Read Mortal_Lament's rejoinder to me on the previous page (I'd missed it before). You didn't address my point. A well pulled-off solo certainly is impressive, but its context determines whether or not it's great. You're either myopic or just a plain idiot if you deny that there are great songs out there with either no solos, or with ones that are quite simple - and, in fact, these songs would be no better (actually a bit worse) with a complex solo thrown in. What this suggests is that a guitar solo is just one of the many components in a songwriter's arsenal. What I'm suggesting is that guitar solos should be considered on these terms, and their greatness judged in the context of their songs. And, in this respect, a lot of metal guitarists are severely lacking; their approach to guitar-playing focused so heavily on certain aspects that they were blinded to others. So there's a lot of impressive fretwork that fails to do a damn thing but is lapped up by morons. Great. There's a reason it's rare to see me praising more than a very few metal guitarists; most of them don't know what they're doing.
In short: a well-pulled off solo that doesn't improve the song to anybody but other guitarists with their jaws opened wide enough to suck off even the most well-endowed porn star isn't a great solo. Also, I'm not defending the list as being right on all counts; it isn't (no top 100 list is ever right). What I'm saying is that a list made by you would be immeasurably worse.
2. Redownloaded 'War' (I'd deleted all the Burzum on my hard drive during an attempt to clear up some space by getting rid of anything redundant or shitty) to see if it really holds up to the various accounts I've read of it from Transient as being full of 'emotion.' I don't tend to think of emotion as being undisciplined wanking, but it certainly might include that. In this case, to my ears, there's only that, so I, once again, find myself wondering why I keep giving Burzum extra chances. The riff is all right, though.
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I just did two things:
1. Read Mortal_Lament's rejoinder to me on the previous page (I'd missed it before). You didn't address my point. A well pulled-off solo certainly is impressive, but its context determines whether or not it's great. You're either myopic or just a plain idiot if you deny that there are great songs out there with either no solos, or with ones that are quite simple - and, in fact, these songs would be no better (actually a bit worse) with a complex solo thrown in. What this suggests is that a guitar solo is just one of the many components in a songwriter's arsenal. What I'm suggesting is that guitar solos should be considered on these terms, and their greatness judged in the context of their songs. And, in this respect, a lot of metal guitarists are severely lacking; their approach to guitar-playing focused so heavily on certain aspects that they were blinded to others. So there's a lot of impressive fretwork that fails to do a damn thing but is lapped up by morons. Great. There's a reason it's rare to see me praising more than a very few metal guitarists; most of them don't know what they're doing.
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But again, this isnt a great song with no solo, or a simple solo to great song, it plainly states BEST solo. This does not have a plainly stated meaning though, a best solo in theory may mean what you are talking about. But thats not the point of the thread, its for the reason of a technilogically well represented solo. The simplicity of the solo is directly preportional to the quality. Sure, a simple solo may sound good with the song, and another solo wouldnt due, but those are not the songs im talking about.
You are right though, alot of metal guitarists really suck, but they arent who i am talking about. And your right, alot of songs on this list do belong, but im talking about the songs that werent represented, ones that people may have not heard, but are played magnificantly.
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A solo that doesn't sound good in a song is a bad solo. You're only going to hear solos in songs; they don't exist in some other worldly plane, abstracted from their usual context. One of the fundamental things that makes a solo great is how it works in the song it's in; how it comes in, how it hits the changes, how it works with the dynamics to enhance the song. It's not coherent to think of them in some other way.
Anyway, I'll agree that this list is imperfect and that some songs don't deserve to be on there and others do. I just don't care.
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A solo that doesn't sound good in a song is a bad solo. You're only going to hear solos in songs; they don't exist in some other worldly plane, abstracted from their usual context.
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I know what you're saying but this is not always true. You can have 'songs' that are basically one long guitar solos. You have Satch, Beck, etc. Doing songs which are just melodic solo type pieces. You also have live guitar solos, which can go on for several minutes, and they too are good, just by themselves. In fact there are so many, can't even remember the names of half of them.
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The outro to Immolation - Bring them Down... would that count as a solo? its layered, so Id say its more just a lead melody than a solo.
(Yeah, i think there is a difference)
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There's a difference between a lead and a solo, but the words are used interchangeably at this point. It's not too hard to tell the difference. But I don't know that song off the top of my head.
Satch and Vai songs that are just guitar solos (and that's rare, as they usually have a melody or something to solo off of) still have to work as songs (even if it's infrequent that they do). And live guitar solos that go one for a long time are cool, but rarely if ever are among the best done by that particular guitarist, in part because they don't really do anything.
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reminds me of something that happened a couple weeks ago. I was sitting around, i think i had maiden on or something, hallowed be they name . My little brothers friend that was near me asks "is this the solo?" but it was at the main riff...
is this what society has come too? so much bollocks on the radio full of like, fallout boy and other homos, that people forgot what solos are?!
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reminds me of something that happened a couple weeks ago. I was sitting around, i think i had maiden on or something, hallowed be they name . My little brothers friend that was near me asks "is this the solo?" but it was at the main riff...
is this what society has come too? so much bollocks on the radio full of like, fallout boy and other homos, that people forgot what solos are?!
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Wake Up Dead - Megadeth (I think its like the second third solo right after everyone stops and dave starts a new rythm)
One of many of Chuck Schulinders solos
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I really like the solo's in seasons in the abyss song of course I cna name a few but i am being lazy now.....
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Black Sabbath has really good solos, they're actually interesting to listen to, not just random notes played at impressive speeds.
So basicly any Black Sabbath song, but if I must name a few, uh... Warning has a lot of solos in it, Lord Of This World, Sabbath, Bloody Sabbath.
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I wanted to make a new thread concerning guitar solos, but I was smart this time and used the search button
Van Halen - Eruption
Megadeth - Tornado of Souls
Death - Bite the Pain
Necrophagist - Hyperversity Adversity
Morbid Angel - Sworn to Black
Soilwork - Possessing The Angels
Nile - Cast Down the Heretic
DragonForce - Fury of the Storm (hate the band, love the solo)
Dream Theater - Beyond This Life
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Am I crazy to think that the solo in Amor Et Morte from Cradle of filth was really good?
Also- Cannibal Corpse's "Mutation of the Cadaver."
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reminds me of something that happened a couple weeks ago. I was sitting around, i think i had maiden on or something, hallowed be they name . My little brothers friend that was near me asks "is this the solo?" but it was at the main riff...
is this what society has come too? so much bollocks on the radio full of like, fallout boy and other homos, that people forgot what solos are?!
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However, it pisses me off that guitars are the solo instrument 99.99% of time. In fact, I don't know why it's called a 'solo'... the guitar plays over accompanyment! I would really enjoy a phat bass solo in some death metal, or a nutters drum solo, instead of it being a guitar all the time. I would literally cum.
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