you have 4 strings in standard tuning,the E B G D.
and the other 3 in octaves A E B,


the reson for this is you can play crazy arpeggios all in the same position.

dunno if its classed as cheating but it works really well.

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Interesting idea.

It would take some getting used to and require adaptation to be usefull in all playing situations. But yeah, Rusty Cooley Uses an 8 string so he can do the same thing with hardly having to move up and down the fretboard much.

Yngwie just does whats necessary to get the note played

hmm plz keep in mind i wasnt my idea or anything like that i saw
paul gilbert do it and he played some of the most killer looking licks
i mean to look at its obvious they aint arpeggios but if you heard it on a cd you'd think he was i'll find the video now.
and yeah i agree getting used to that would need adaption
btw how would you play normal chords if they were in octaves?kinda wierd
would it be like drop d barring 3 strings?

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http://www.racerxband.com/videos.htm

scroll down to - Paul Gilbert Clinic -Seoul - video 2

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lol, glad you posted that, i was about to flame you for copying pauls technique and passing it off as your own lol

lol nah id never do that.

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is he paying a fucking spice girls song there??

pretty interesting technique though

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yep
but the solo from stairway to heaven gives it an edge lol
im gonna get me a 7 string anyways so.

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i hate downtuned guitars, they sound kinda shit to me and lose a lot of character. the lowest i would ever tune to is drop c, and even then i dont like it that much. as a result, 7 strings with an extra b string is just useless for me, i wont need that extra heavyness. i may however get a 7 string and add high a string. that would be interesting

Cool idea, changing tunings to make things easier is never cheating.

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I think it's quite common for people to put a lighter string in place of the low B so that they can play weird stuff or certain harmonies are easier to achieve, just a 'drop' tuning but so the remaining 6 strings are all standard.

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Ghehe, I love downtunded guitar. Last time I played a guitar in standard tuning was 4 years ago

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Slipknot tune to B.

Afterall, the only reason it's called "standard tuning" is for the ease of playing bar chords.

People complaining about fancy tuning being cheating should get out of the stone age; 'standard tuning' is just a figment of the imagination anyway, one that we're all used to, and you know how much humans fear change and exploration. It's how we evolved from those primates that saw an opening in the fields as the larger predators died off

Haha, I was gonna mention it. Drop B I believe, since theyre fucking tr00.

yea, im aware of that. they sometimes tune to drop a aswell. still, it doesnt mean i like it. i dig the music, but not so much the tone. obviously the music would be much better if i liked the tone, but whatever. its like how i think god hates us all is ok, but the tone sucks because they use different tunings and tune down.

im not gonna hate/dislike good music just because of their tunning and guitar tone.

why not? I do

If your gonna record something, your tone usually comes up as 50% and the music 50% of the listeners first impression of you. Its a huge part of it. Just imagine the newest Nile album sounding something like Immortal's first demo. Thats a bit extreme for an example but you know what i mean.

Morbid Angel, favorite band for so many years now, but the tone of Heretic (2003) turned me right off of them. It sounds like plastic guitars to me, meanwhile all their previous albums are killer.

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[QUOTE=*insert name here*]Slipknot tune to B. i love them i think there awesome.


what does that have to do with anything?

i think slipknot are gay and desever to be eaten by some crazy black metaller

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He likes the particular band alot,but they tune to B.I wanted some kind of explination.Thats what it has to do with anything,you stupid asshole.As you would have realised if you read a few reply's in the thread before posting,you would have seen him say this.


Stupid cunt.

Actually,I dont consider their tone that bad.

get a life. i look for different things in music than you...fucking nazi, so what if i have a different opinion to you, why does it bother you? thats why you need a life. im not too fond of necrophagists tone, but i think they fuckin amazing.



good for you, now hurry up and get a life.

o yea, and learn to use the edit button

You're fucking gay.

"get a lif3, get a lif3, lolZm"

Gayest fucking call ever. Go back to fucking grade 3.

No, he doesn't need to learn the Edit button, why would he? Since he was talking to different people in that case. First he was talking to fucking MengelisGod or whatever, then he was talking to you. It just makes it more efficient that's all. So basically, you're retarded.



Maybe it bothers him since you find the need to bring up your shitty pro-Slipknot/pro-shitty metal opinion in every single thread. Sometimes, without even realising it, since you have that shit quote in your signature. Wow some dude from Testament thinks they're good. That by no means rectifies Slipknot's situation, doomed as a shit, pretentious nu-metal band that attract hordes of 'hot-topic', stupid, teenybopper faggots like you. So fuck you and shutup.

So maybe that's why it bothers him. Because that's why it bothers me.

Oh yeah, learn to use the Shift button.

I think this post speaks on behalf of the the majority...

Seriously, why do you guys even bother signing into the forums with the intention of bickering between you about the same old fucking shite?

When will one side of the retard war realise that to not respond will be the best way not to dignify a post that doesn't have any dignity...

Go bicker elsewhere. Use your time to learn the instrument the forum is for... No one gives a shit if you like Slipknot; conversely, no one gives a shit if mick thomson can play racer X's album, as many guitarists probably can. Musicianship comes from application, something slipknot lack.

You silly fuckers with the insane post counts yet very minimal English skills are astounding, and I doubt your guitar skills are much better. Put your time to good use, get over your stupid arguements, or at least stop wasting other people's time on this forum

yea im sure no one does give a fuck
that is just to shut people up when they come to say "mick cant shred for shit, he just plays in binary, lolz! 1's and 0's! hahaha"

Why defend someone you don't know though? I for one don't care about his abilities, at the end of the day, he's not famous for writing technical or even interesting guitar work, so why acknowledge him as a good guitarist?

I bet Yngwie is one hell of a cook, but you never see him on celebrity chef

If you morons want a guitarist to pick on, pick on the useless tools in metallica, at least they have shown attempts to try and play, and failed miserbaly. That's enough ammunition for any arsehole to complain about

well interesting guitar work is down to opinion. for example, i find his work extremely interesting, hence the reason why im a slipknot fan, but again, overall its down to opinion. however, the fact of the matter is that he has written some technical stuff which warrants the label of being a good guitarist. so thats why i acknowledge him as a good guitarist. the shit he did for total guitar mag, the solos from the slipknot album are what i base my opinions on. true there are guitarists better than him, but just because there are, it doesnt mean he automatically becomes a shit guitarist. if that were the case, there would be one amazing player and everyone else would be classed as shit, regardless of their talent...exactly, thats quite a stupid idea, therefore so is that mentality.
but if you dont agree with me...fine...i guess we'll have to agree to disagree and call it quits.

im gonna take it outta my sig since it bothers too many "tr00 metallers" and because they find it offensive...

Well there's no point in being stubborn and keeping something that isn't important to you just to wind people up. It'd be the same principle as some fucker with swastikas everywhere

Tr00 metallers = allergic to mainstream

hah

The onyl reason I hinted at taking it from the signiture because it was doing you no favours. It had no benefits at all, and I'd feel the same if someone's signiture had similar content about Paul Gilbert etc

On forums, people who go out of their way to pro ve a point come accross as arseholes, unfortunately your interests lead such morons to yourself. I'm indifferent to people's opinions, you don't see me posting all the time how Chjildren of Bodom are shit, which I truely think they are. The internet is not a place to try and prove anything, especially on a forum with mixed opinions

How many comemnts do you see in regards to "Cannibal Corpse's guitarists are ace!" etc? Exactly, very few, so why would people want to have you rubbing slipknot things in at given oppurtunities? So what if you like them, whilst it is your opinion and people should respect that, you should also respect that others think they are shite, even if they probably did love them "before they were cool"

If those other fuckers enjoy bickering they should go to tabcrawler

Hahaha! Deilfiler! Do you realise how contradictory you're being? "Stop your bickering" etc., yet you just had an argument with User01... Ok, I know you were arguing to try and put it to rest, but it didn't work out that way. Haha but dont worry man, you presented some very valid arguments.



PPPPPPPPPFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTT HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh my fucking God. You have gotta be fucking kidding me. I can't believe you just fucking said that.

Your opinion on what a 'good guitarist' is, is so far from any sense of rational thought it's actually laughable. That's right, i'm actually laughing in disgust. Technical solo?? Just because some song has some 16th notes past the 12th fret and a 3 string (pfft haha) sweep section does no warrant any sort of technicallity claim. The thing that gets to me, is that you listen to Necrophagist yet still consider Slipknot technical. I think i'm gonna have to chainsaw my head off now.

"There would be one amazing guitarist and the rest would be classified as shit, regardless of talent".

Very, very untrue. See, Technicality isn't all that much. I can write something extremely technical, but no way in hell could I write a great melodic solo in the likes of Satriani or even a song such as Tears in Heaven by Clapton. Yes, ok, that's composition, but still a big part of guitar. Also, originaltiy is part of being a good guitarist. I am yet to hear a single creative Slipknot riff.

Slipknot song #329486234

Riff A: 0001010010100000004401000101001 x4

Riff B:0000333332222200000044444 x6

Riff C:0----4-----1-----0----- x 2

Outro: 01010010001010012440101030101 x 1

Song Structure: A,B,A,C,A,B,A,outro.

Lyrics: Fuck this and that I hate myself Fuck those fucking humans kill the barstards Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! I hate myself I hate myself I hate myself I hate myself.


And don't fucking argue. You know it's fucking true. All the evidence I need is on mxtabs.com.

And just cause some song has one solo doesn't make them technical. You stupid, illiterate, motherfucker.

In conclusion, I hate you.

I hope your post wasnt directed at me,I did not sign up with the intention to bicker,and I dont consider my English skills very minimal.
It wasnt a stupid argument when I asked a question,though it quickly became one.


I was not having a dig at you,you based your argument on a random idea in your simple head.
No,your opinion about the band and tuning obviously doesnt bother me,thats why I asked you a simple question.If you dont expect that on a forum.....what the fuck do you expect?
Im not a nazi either.I dont know where you got that from.

Read what the fuck you are saying.

fucking amen

This was a thread about 7 string tunings once upon a time.

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