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Old 2006-05-23, 19:35
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Power amp fuckup

So i setup my rig last nast (engl 530-engl 920 poweramp)at band practice and when i turned it on everything was very very quiet, so we plugged my preamp into a PA poweramp and went with that, it worked but meh


so ive read plenty of this shit

im assuming i broke a tube or one is loose or something? any idea which one it is

Ive been lugging this rig around recently with out a rack case so i guess it serves me right

how much will it cost to replace my tubes if that needs to happen? (my poweramp has 8 tubes)

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Old 2006-05-23, 20:36
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8 tubes!? 8 power tubes or 4 power tubes and 4 filter tubes? If its just one power tube then you will only have to replace 2 ( matched ) tubes, but you might as well replace all 4 at once if it is the power tubes and that is going to cost at least over $100. If its a filter tube then you will only have to replace that one tube. It will not cost that much.

You people and your crazy tubes S.S. has its issues too but they are very dependable. I love tubes too but I had to let them go.
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Old 2006-05-23, 21:15
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You have two channels at 50watts, are both sides equally quiet? Check to make sure all tubes light up properly, maybe pull them and put them back in. Its got two matched duets of powertubes, you should only need to change two if thats the problem, whichever side. I bought a matched quad of JJ's for 60$ from Doug's. Make sure its cooled down too before moving it after jamming.
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Old 2006-05-23, 23:26
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oh fuck i never tried running the other side (yeah it stereo, but i was only running it mono because my cab is mono)


ill test the other side and report back....
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Old 2006-05-23, 23:29
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oh fuck i never tried running the other side (yeah it stereo, but i was only running it mono because my cab is mono)


ill test the other side and report back....


You have a 920? does it have an insane amount of bass? I just played mine nexto a powerball and it had 10 times more bass. maybe the JJ's in it have something to do with it
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Old 2006-05-23, 23:35
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um, well my setup didnt strike me as having an INSANE amount of bass

but it has plenty and sounds really thick as well

actually i think an EQ pedal in front of this rig would do wonders
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Old 2006-05-24, 02:18
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oh fuck i never tried running the other side (yeah it stereo, but i was only running it mono because my cab is mono)


ill test the other side and report back....


Doh! You were only using half your power amp? Crazy bastard. Did the unused side have a load while you were using the now busted side?
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Old 2006-05-24, 16:45
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8 tubes!? 8 power tubes or 4 power tubes and 4 filter tubes? If its just one power tube then you will only have to replace 2 ( matched ) tubes, but you might as well replace all 4 at once if it is the power tubes and that is going to cost at least over $100. If its a filter tube then you will only have to replace that one tube. It will not cost that much.

i think that poweramp runs el84's which are basically mini el34's so you need twice as many to pump out the same wattage.
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Old 2006-05-24, 19:03
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Doh! You were only using half your power amp? Crazy bastard. Did the unused side have a load while you were using the now busted side?

yeah i have a Y cable going from both sides running into my cab but only the right side works


that is safe right?
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Old 2006-05-24, 21:47
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A speaker Y cable?


How did you calculate the load?
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Old 2006-05-25, 01:57
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yeah i have a Y cable going from both sides running into my cab but only the right side works


that is safe right?


Sounds safe to me. Two sides at 8ohms running mono at 16ohms.
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Old 2006-05-25, 15:55
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Sounds safe to me. Two sides at 8ohms running mono at 16ohms.


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Old 2006-05-26, 18:51
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how the fuck is a mono Y cable wired?
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Old 2006-05-27, 00:24
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ok so heres my updated

this is some freaky shit i have going on here:

ok so before i head off to band practice earilier on this evening i plug everything in and this time instead of plugging into the RIGHT side i plugged into the LEFT side, things started to work and i was pleased

so i haul her over to my drummers house and i plug into the left side, all i get is a very very weak single which is practically all feed back

then i plugged into the RIGHT side again, and it worked perfectly, WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH THIS SHIT BOISE?
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Old 2006-05-29, 00:16
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bump for satan


someone help me please
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Old 2006-05-29, 00:37
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Lol, that is some wierd shit. I have no clue WTF is going on, but perhaps you should take it to a priest instaed of a tech? Or tape some chicken bones to the back of it.
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