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Old 2006-05-07, 21:40
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The Netherlands/Holland: Death metal's new Florida?

more and more there are great bands and albums taking off out of holland. the dutch death metal scene has its own sound, very much like Florida's back in the early days of death metal.

some popular (and awesome) dutch death metal bands


Brutus
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and of course my favorite, old schoolers PESTILENCE

discuss the metal scene there, your favorites..most anticipated...etc!
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Old 2006-05-07, 23:14
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T3h dutchies have t3h grind.

Cliteater
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Old 2006-05-07, 23:18
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and of course my favorite, old schoolers PESTILENCE

are they even still around?
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Old 2006-05-07, 23:20
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Michigan has a good metal scene believe or not, just most of the bands from around here aren't signed.
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Old 2006-05-07, 23:40
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are they even still around?

nope disbanded. the only one who is active at all that i know o is john pall thessling who has some weird 8 string guitar or something. and tony choy is with atheist now
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There are more popular death metal bands from other countries. I'd say Canada was the new Florida of Death metal way before Denmark. I just don't see Denmark as a country with many good bands
 
Old 2006-05-07, 23:42
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denmark has its own sound, but isnt related to the netherlands

denmark has usipian, corpus mortale, iniquity, exmortem....
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Old 2006-05-07, 23:59
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California has also been the New Florida for some time.
 
Old 2006-05-08, 00:16
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Look out for more Death metal from Australia. Especially Tasmania (the home of Psycroptic)
 
Old 2006-05-08, 00:18
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California was hot years before death metal even existed.
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Old 2006-05-08, 00:34
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thrash bay area anyone
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Old 2006-05-08, 00:42
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Old 2006-05-08, 03:10
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No freakin' way. Pyaemia have disbanded, the rest of the bands listed are average, at best (except Pestilence). Pyaemia, Disavowed and Arsebreed share(d) the same members anyway.

They'll have to do a lot more to be the new Florida. Like, by releasing a good album. Misanthropic Carnage is about as close as its got to a good album. Perceptive Deception was pretty decent too.
 
Old 2006-05-08, 08:08
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What Jarrod said.

I'd say Montreal is the new Florida.
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Old 2006-05-08, 10:26
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No freakin' way. Pyaemia have disbanded, the rest of the bands listed are average, at best (except Pestilence). Pyaemia, Disavowed and Arsebreed share(d) the same members anyway.

They'll have to do a lot more to be the new Florida. Like, by releasing a good album. Misanthropic Carnage is about as close as its got to a good album. Perceptive Deception was pretty decent too.

have you heard fall of the despised?! that album is really great. im not up on the lineups interms of whos in what between arsebreed and disavowed... i think the same french guy drums for both now and robbe does vocals? i dont know...
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Old 2006-05-08, 12:59
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Cliteater is from Belgium?

And whoever thinks Denmark and Holland are the same is retarded.
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Old 2006-05-08, 19:06
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And whoever thinks Denmark and Holland are the same is retarded.

Ahh whats the difference. They're both two small european countries that you never hear from (except for the Belgians and their beer. They should get recognition for that).
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Old 2006-05-08, 22:57
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Ahh whats the difference. They're both two small european countries that you never hear from .

oh yea, cause noone heard about the muhammid cartoons
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Old 2006-05-09, 02:25
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Speaking of bands that arent bands any more is creepmine still a band?
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Old 2006-05-09, 02:39
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if you mean creepmime then no they are not together anymore
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Old 2006-05-09, 06:56
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There are more popular death metal bands from other countries. I'd say Canada was the new Florida of Death metal way before Denmark. I just don't see Denmark as a country with many good bands

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Look out for more Death metal from Australia. Especially Tasmania (the home of Psycroptic)

Aussie grind is worth looking out for more,IMO.
 
Old 2006-05-09, 07:18
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Older Aussie Death and Black are where it's at.

Sadistik Exekution
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Disembowelment
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Not all of those necessarily old but all great none the less
 
Old 2006-05-09, 07:24
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i think Poland is the new Florida of Death metal.....
bands like Vader...Decapitated...Hate...etc...
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You guys are all rediculous.

"N0! No! Country/State/Province X 1s d3 new FloRidA~! I swear it! BanDs LiK Y and Z ar3 from der and dey are AwEsOmErEsT!!!!!!1 lolZ!


speaking of good aussie bands...

www.infinitum.com.au

Opened for Disgorge, good mix of melodic/brutal/tech death.


Ok so Australia has some good death metal and grind bands, but lets not jump to conclusions, as Australia being the new haven for extreme metal.

Oh and Inifinity, Crypt (Au) eat more balls than you. AND THAT'S A LOT.
 
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Old 2006-05-09, 15:31
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just face it, the netherlands rule the death and grind scene!! mwuhahaha

Add's to the list: God Dethroned, Pentacle, Gorefest, Thanathos, Caedere and ofcourse Severe Torture

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Old 2006-05-09, 20:01
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severe torture are probably my fav band from that area now, the new album is soooo good
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Old 2006-05-09, 20:23
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Severe Torture get a little samey to these ears... I prefer(red) Pyaemia.
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Old 2006-05-09, 22:39
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Severe Torture get a little samey to these ears... I prefer(red) Pyaemia.

vice versa for me, but impaled on stakes has that AWESOME pull off riff
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Old 2006-05-09, 23:12
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Old 2006-05-09, 23:13
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youd love this thread if it was about bay area thrash

specific regions and their sounds is interesting to me and rather fundamentle to metal itself
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Old 2006-05-09, 23:16
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Haha NOT TRUE

I almost never look and see where bands are from. And when I do end up hearing where the come from, it seems that all the best bands, Thrash and Death, come from the United States of America.
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Old 2006-05-09, 23:19
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maybe thrash but even then german thrash sounds way different than american thrash, don't you agree
sodom + kreator / megadeth and anthrax


both thrash, both different on account of country of origin
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Old 2006-05-09, 23:50
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T3h dutchies have t3h grind.

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This hold most true. The Netherlands hold 50% of all good goregrind bands in the world.
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Old 2006-05-10, 00:34
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FUcking good australian grind band

Fuck.. i'm dead

and new upcoming talent in the technical death metal area is "Mephistopheles" if these kids keep going the way they are, they will be the next Necrophagist
 
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Sodom plus Kreator divided by (Megadeth and Anthrax)? I don't follow.

It's really hard for a region today to have a sound similar in impact, etc, to the old Florida death metal scene, unless you happen to find the region in which a bunch of people are all spontaneously playing a new type of death metal that, to (our) outside ears, is so different a new title is needed for it. I also don't see anybody moving to the Netherlands to play death metal.

That said, it's not a bad idea to think about the various regions and their sounds. Just to give them titles like 'the new Florida of death metal.'
 
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Sodom plus Kreator divided by (Megadeth and Anthrax)? I don't follow.

It's really hard for a region today to have a sound similar in impact, etc, to the old Florida death metal scene, unless you happen to find the region in which a bunch of people are all spontaneously playing a new type of death metal that, to (our) outside ears, is so different a new title is needed for it. I also don't see anybody moving to the Netherlands to play death metal.

That said, it's not a bad idea to think about the various regions and their sounds. Just to give them titles like 'the new Florida of death metal.'

i meant sodom and kreator versus megadeth and anthrax but i think you knew taht regions today dont have neraly as much effect due to exposure on the internet. a florida band would have seen mostly only other florida bands reherase, recorded in florida studios, etc...but now you have bands doing all sorts of international things. listening to new bands from other countries, recording with foreign producers (who is it thats working with tue madsen now, metallica or megadeth or someone?). while that wasnt unheard of (metallica recorded MOP in copenhagen) it still was less common

still i believe region plays a roll (ask john holland)
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Old 2006-05-10, 03:43
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Fuck Holland...Look at what Finland has done.....well...for melodic/folk/black metal...


Finland should have the fucking thread.
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I know what you meant. I was making a joke.

Yeah, Florida definitely had more of a genetic drift back in the day than is likely now.

John Holland's story has more to do with what happens when a sound has already become so big that it eclipses anything else that might come from the area. It's presumably what Florida was like when its creative load was shot and a bunch of poser bands stifled growth (or is like now). It's exactly what happened to the thrash scene, worldwide. But, inevitable as it is, it's not something you want to see happen.
 
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realy, how does a country or region define a sound?

excluding folk music offcoarse
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and dont forget the mighty sinister

another reason why we rule: 'our' laber roadrunner introduced bands like Sepultura, Obituary and Death.
 
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another reason why we rule: 'our' laber roadrunner introduced bands like Sepultura, Obituary and Death.


and don't forget Dynamo Open Air
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that festival really sucks today (just like roadrunner). it had some awesome bills though (just like the dynamo cafe)
 
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Generally a region develops its own sound by having a number of bands that are interested in playing music (in this case metal) who, through their isolation from the mainstream and their exposure to specific local influences, end up, as if by accident, creating a new sound that tends to be common to the bands from that region. I called it genetic drift earlier because, well, that's basically what it is.

As Tranny noted, in the days of the internet it's harder to get that kind of isolation, and we have very few scenes that just seem to come out of nowhere almost full-formed, with a sound so new it's shocking.
 
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have you heard fall of the despised?! that album is really great.

oh yeah I forgot about their latest. That's pretty decent.

everyone shut the fuck up about Australia having good metal bands, we have about 2. and anyone who likes the latest Psycroptic album is a retard.
 
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of growing scenes?

well southern california in the Los Angeles/Long Beach area, old school 80s style thrash metal is on the rise. pm or AIM me if you want to discuss this with me, sort to speak i fell into the "scene". how is the scene out here Kin?

i have pictures of how its like so far, people with the vests, tight pants, hi top sneakers, [including me], its starting to spread like the herpes your mother never told you about
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No freakin' way. Pyaemia have disbanded, the rest of the bands listed are average, at best (except Pestilence). Pyaemia, Disavowed and Arsebreed share(d) the same members anyway.

They'll have to do a lot more to be the new Florida. Like, by releasing a good album. Misanthropic Carnage is about as close as its got to a good album. Perceptive Deception was pretty decent too.

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more and more there are great bands and albums taking off out of holland. the dutch death metal scene has its own sound, very much like Florida's back in the early days of death metal.

some popular (and awesome) dutch death metal bands


Brutus
Arsebreed
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and of course my favorite, old schoolers PESTILENCE

discuss the metal scene there, your favorites..most anticipated...etc!

Good bands but there are better deathmetalbands in holland:

- God dethroned!!!

(the best deathmetalband from holland NO DISCUSSION, their new lead gitarist (who's from around here) ISAAC DELAHAYE shreds like the best! look at his site for good tabs:
http://www.isaacdelahaye.be

occult
legion of the doomed (old-occult)
thanatos (not really known but very good)
sinister
pentacle
asphyx (i think they broke up)
altar!!! (great band, saw them live they CRUSH)

Although i am from belgium i must admit the dutch scene is very proffesional and organised.
 
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asphyx, what are they like? i saw a tape at a store the other day
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Old 2006-05-11, 21:16
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like pentacle. or like celtic frost meets obituary cums over possessed
 
Old 2006-05-11, 21:17
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legion of the doomed (old-occult)

oh and its legion of the DAMNED
 
Old 2006-05-11, 21:43
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Stone is the best band to come from Finland...and probably the only one that comes to mind. Except for Sotajumala.




I looked up Mephistipheles on soulseek, and got this . Can't get any info on it either. Anyone have any idea? Or just download and don't reply, that works for most people around here too.
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Old 2006-05-11, 22:37
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for your kind of musical preference yeah but finland has an incredible melo-death rostrum
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Old 2006-05-12, 16:01
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asphyx, what are they like? i saw a tape at a store the other day


hm raw death metal, i heard one album("wings of inferno") i must warn you that the production was very bad.

Its one of the weaker bands that i mentioned: if you want good dutch deathmetal go for god dethroned or the new legion of the damned, they have better technique & production.

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