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Old 2006-05-06, 09:07
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Breath Controller

You know that thing Meshuggah's Fredrik Thorendal has, the 'breath controller'? What actually is it?
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Also, check out Autopsy, the vocalist sounds like hes about to eat your grandmother while fucking you in the eye. Brutal.


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Old 2006-05-06, 09:24
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Its just a different parameter controller,in this case its a headset that uses breath to play sounds.Like woodwind instruments,or synthy stuff.They arent that popular,but they are usefull.
 
Old 2006-05-06, 09:53
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I suppose he would use that more for leadwork.

Name a bit where Thorendal uses it in.
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Also, check out Autopsy, the vocalist sounds like hes about to eat your grandmother while fucking you in the eye. Brutal.


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Old 2006-05-08, 06:21
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His 'Fredrik Thorendal Special Defects' project is so unbelievably terrible this thread shouldn't even mention the guys name.
 
Old 2006-05-08, 06:37
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I suppose he would use that more for leadwork.

Name a bit where Thorendal uses it in.

No idea,Im not big on Meshuggah.Though thats what breath/wind controllers do.
 
Old 2006-05-09, 18:23
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His 'Fredrik Thorendal Special Defects' project is so unbelievably terrible this thread shouldn't even mention the guys name.


'Defects is brilliant! It's something different.
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Also, check out Autopsy, the vocalist sounds like hes about to eat your grandmother while fucking you in the eye. Brutal.


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I coated the end of a toothpick with Satan's blood and simply wiped it across the top of an omelet. PERFECT!
 
Old 2006-05-09, 22:51
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'Defects is brilliant! It's something different.


that is like saying charles manson isn't insane, he's just different.
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Old 2006-05-13, 09:53
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that is like saying charles manson isn't insane, he's just different.


I know religious folk who say that Hitler wasn't mad and that he was probably a nice guy to talk to, just a bit over-expressive of his very radical beliefs.

'Defects is insane.

Anyway, the breath controller sounds like a good investment. Imagine doing your vocals THROUGH your guitar's riffs.
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Also, check out Autopsy, the vocalist sounds like hes about to eat your grandmother while fucking you in the eye. Brutal.


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Old 2006-05-13, 09:59
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He uses the breath controller alot on Future breed machine. Example those "beep beep" things you hear in the intro and randomly during the song.

He's also using the breath controller during the second solo.

Besides, his soloproject is excellent.
 
Old 2006-05-13, 12:23
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hahahah a headset??? i have no idea what this contraption sounds like because i ve never really looked into Meshuggah but i image you would look really funny up on stage headbanging and your head set falls off. but i shouldnt talk to much shit since i havent heard it, it just sounds silly.
 
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He uses the breath controller alot on Future breed machine. Example those "beep beep" things you hear in the intro and randomly during the song.

He's also using the breath controller during the second solo.

Besides, his soloproject is excellent.


That "beep beep" is in fact minor second chords, which attain that really "beep" because the notes are so close they start destructively interfering with eachother.

Code:
[--------] [19--19--] [23--23--] [--------] [--------] [--------] [--------]


It's somewhere around there.

I'm thinking Fredrik used it for the first bit of Soul Burn's main solo, that mad wobbly bit, and the start of Vanished's main solo, with that wah-ed out kind of bit. Over that, he uses compressor, chorus and flange all in one for that subtle jazz sound.
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Also, check out Autopsy, the vocalist sounds like hes about to eat your grandmother while fucking you in the eye. Brutal.


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I coated the end of a toothpick with Satan's blood and simply wiped it across the top of an omelet. PERFECT!

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Old 2006-05-16, 12:30
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hahahah a headset??? i have no idea what this contraption sounds like because i ve never really looked into Meshuggah but i image you would look really funny up on stage headbanging and your head set falls off. but i shouldnt talk to much shit since i havent heard it, it just sounds silly.


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Old 2006-05-16, 13:21
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dont get your balls in a knot, i was just having a little fun. i m sure it takes quite a bit of tallent to use of of those and i have nothing aginst meshuggah.

btw couldnt you just use a wah pedal through an effect to get the same results as a breath controller?
 
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dont get your balls in a knot, i was just having a little fun. i m sure it takes quite a bit of tallent to use of of those and i have nothing aginst meshuggah.

btw couldnt you just use a wah pedal through an effect to get the same results as a breath controller?


But think, with the wah pedal, you go from 'oh' to 'ah' in a very linear fashion, but with the breath controller, the possibilities are truly endless. You could do vocals throught your riffs, I suppose. I-fucking-magine. Think what might happen if you did like a really sick, tongue-to-the-roof-of-mouth growl through it?
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Also, check out Autopsy, the vocalist sounds like hes about to eat your grandmother while fucking you in the eye. Brutal.


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Old 2006-05-18, 13:31
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This is what they look like for anyone interested
http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dba.../6/6/250066.jpg
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Old 2006-05-18, 13:42
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WHOA!

That is bizarre.

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Also, check out Autopsy, the vocalist sounds like hes about to eat your grandmother while fucking you in the eye. Brutal.


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I coated the end of a toothpick with Satan's blood and simply wiped it across the top of an omelet. PERFECT!
 
Old 2006-05-19, 00:39
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what the hell was that thing? haha

The special defects album he made is completely useless. Its just random noises and shit. Like 30 1-2 minute "songs" which actually make up one entire-cd length song...

As for meshuggah, i had no idea he used that contraption during some of their songs. Ill have to check this out...
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heres also another controller, its midi though, not sure if this is what youre talking about.

Headset: http://www.musiciansbuy.com/YAMAHA_...CONTROLLER.html... did they intentionally wrap that to look like eyes and a nose?
Controller:
http://www.midisolutions.com/prodbth.htm
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Old 2006-05-19, 11:54
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It certainly is a real toy for particularlly wieird and kinesthetic players. Doing things with their breathing.
How about one that latches onto your optic nerve and controls your signal's parameters by the colours in your vision? Or one that controls the panning of your signal by where there is red in your vision?!
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Also, check out Autopsy, the vocalist sounds like hes about to eat your grandmother while fucking you in the eye. Brutal.


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I coated the end of a toothpick with Satan's blood and simply wiped it across the top of an omelet. PERFECT!
 
Old 2006-07-12, 16:55
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I was gonna make my own thread but I saw this.
More info on his gear.
http://cgi.ebay.com/33-Breath-Contr...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://www.33.hemsida.net/

There produced by Thomas Haakes (drummer for meshuggah) brother.
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Old 2006-07-13, 12:57
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Heh,they are pretty awesome,you can get them to sound like a lead guitar,its like fucking cheating.

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