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How the psycho-frame is called 'world',
the contructions of solid matter,
the physical avatar,
of the epiphenomenon's requirements.
The shells are the universe to the perceptors,
to calculate this the source of the arrogance,
a logical reasoning.
How if I revealed holes in the stream-fabric,
minds would collapse in depression.
Reality cannot strike me down,
I am become its peer,
I am the archetype of a new cosmo-systemic pathogen,
a Messiah to an as-yet unmutated race,
sorcerors of reality, the ones,
who possess this cosmo-perceptive psychiatric power,
as well are apart of it,
a truly ascended kind.
A veritable transcendental maze for you all.
Based on some ideas I scribbled down on my RMPS papers today.
They are a bit 'uncontrolled' towards the end. I did not 'curb my tongue' in some of the lines. Gets a bit off-topic.
Oh well, its all just extrapolation of about four lines.
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Intresting piece. I know i say that word alot but i kinda like this one. I mean some of the language seems a lil.. too "intensely" thrown at you, but i'm sure you were attempting to do something like that.
Sorta seems like a blend of 2 of my songs that i've written. One is about the understanding of why human kind is here.. and how we have no purpose, and the other about "superbeings" created through science and genetic alteration and engineering (the most probable future)
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Thanx.
It's meant to be complex and partly, scientific. It's coming from the perception of a perception that has higher concerns than (current) humanity. Some of it's a bit more opinionated than I usually take care to avoid, but I like it so far myself. A lot of it was composed in the 'New Thread' screen text box.
I once disagreed with Buddha that sometimes asking stuff like "why are we here" is a distraction, or an inanity. But now, giving humanity's current state, I now see that stuff like that can be an inane pursuit. Nature is more important than purpose.
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It's interesting to me how you word things. It's understandable even though it seems a bit over the top. I think I grasped the ideas you were explaining abstractly and maybe not as intricately as you said, but I've got the general idea. Interesting read and might be a bit inspiring to me when I write again. I'll have to think on it for awhile though.
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Thanx, dude.
LB, it's good to hear from you. Thanx to you, too.
If you get the prefixes et al, you may find it is the simplest way to explain the thoughts of the story's persona. It could be the wording he thinks in. He is an abstract thinker. |
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Thanx.
It's meant to be complex and partly, scientific. It's coming from the perception of a perception that has higher concerns than (current) humanity. Some of it's a bit more opinionated than I usually take care to avoid, but I like it so far myself. A lot of it was composed in the 'New Thread' screen text box.
I once disagreed with Buddha that sometimes asking stuff like "why are we here" is a distraction, or an inanity. But now, giving humanity's current state, I now see that stuff like that can be an inane pursuit. Nature is more important than purpose.
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Perhaps so, but there is inanity for humans to ask those questions.
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Perhaps so, but there is inanity for humans to ask those questions.
It's a good analysis you have made, but I think philosophy like that, wherein we search for the essence for things like purpose and shit, is crap. There's more to the Universe than humans and their place in it.
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I would definately have to agree. Which is hard for us, as like you said we often chose to ask and wonder those kind of questions, probably for lack of self security?
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I would definately have to agree. Which is hard for us, as like you said we often chose to ask and wonder those kind of questions, probably for lack of self security?
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Correct you are, tmfreak. You are potentially on the way to something greater than the mediocre human.
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I just took your lil riff in you're profile, used the same frets in drop C to make G minor, and will probably use it for a solo i'm working on right now. haha (not exactly like that, but i came up with somethin from that)
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i like the word usage alot, but the style is something i really dont like
"let me tell you how cool i am"
its like, let me vaguely describe something,a situation,a religion,a philosophy or worldview or perhaps reality,or the perception of reality.......anything, and then let you know that "im above all that shit,everybody else are a bunch of tools, it aint got nothing on me" and then steer things towards "i have this super cool pathogen thing, im like the next jesus, its totally badass, im truely one of a kind"
its a little too ego-centric for me
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For me, there was a little too much articulation and vocab... Just didn't get into it.
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low-tech -
Just shut your narrow mind the rest of the way closed. 
Very mediocre analysis.
The character in would only look on you in pity.
There is no religion or philosophy or worldview or any bullshit like that in the lyrics above.
What's wrong with embracing the truth about yourself?
Infinity -
It's not meant to be understood by everyone.
But thanks.
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Very mediocre analysis.
The character in would only look on you in pity.
the character??
"Reality cannot strike me down,
I am become its peer,
I am the archetype of a new cosmo-systemic pathogen,
a Messiah"
looks like first person narritive to me.you,self described,as a messiah no less
"There is no religion or philosophy or worldview or any bullshit like that in the lyrics above.
i know,there is however the "cosmo perspective-psychiatric-power"
"cosmo-perspective-ability to proscribe you zoloft-power"?
do you mock my psychiatric powers???? is that like the ability to force feed prozac to the unwilling,the powers to fill a proscription.......in due haste?
"cosmo-systemic pathogen"
do you have this trademarked?,copyrighted?,well get on it my friend. if the guy down the street had his own version of this and called it a "superduper-system-pathogen" im telling you. LAWSUIT, i know a good lawyer
What's wrong with embracing the truth about yourself?
the truth of psychiatry?, the powerful truth of the cosmic psychiatry, i mean, i know, its so...............pre....spective, woah
in all seriousness, i know your poem is way over my head, so im gonna try to embrace some truth....or something
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Just because you write in first person doesn't neccesarily mean you're talking about yourself. Granted i'm not sticking my neck out for Unanything, but i thought i'd just throw that out there.
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true indeed, there is that ambiguallity. this is, remember, a "transcendental maze". my original criticism was about its style, whether its his perspective or some "character's" first person perspective doesnt dismiss the fact i thought it was ego-centric. nothing had indicated that it wasnt his perspective before this
"The character in would only look on you in pity.
There is no religion or philosophy or worldview or any bullshit like that in the lyrics above."
What's wrong with embracing the truth about yourself?
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i just assume its his viewpoint because he doesnt even have gual to come out to say he pities me, which ,of course, would be a devastating blow to my criticism to his poem.
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Did you even read the bit below the lyrics, low-tech?
I do pity you.
You just think this is a pessimistic condescending on the rest of humanity.
Typical human assumption.
You are the sort that tempt such thoughts.
Psychiatry is meant as the power to manipulate mind as matter. Fucking prozac...
Messiah, self-belief that one is a God, a 'great guy'? What? Simply meant as the eidolon or guide of a race.
Tell you's what.
I am going to refine this piece.
BECAUSE...
If you read my initial explanantion, you will know this was a quick expansion on a few scribblings that I did in RMPS at school (Relgious, Moral And Philosophical Studies).
low-tech, my original opinion stands.
Very mediocre analysis, however detailed and technically correct. You quickly reduce it to deprecation.
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psychiatrist is a branch of medicine that deals with mental health. they diagnose, proscribe medicine and usually keep up to date on new treatments,therapies and medicine.
"cosmo perspective-psychiatric-power"
"cosmo-systemic pathogen"
see these terms you coin, noone is gonna understand what you mean by them, i havent the slightest clue. but however such things have use, if you allow in your writing detail about them for people to figure them out. it doesnt have to be spoonfed, it doesnt necessarily have to be fully explained or be fully plausible. it just has to make sense
its kinda like what sci-fi writing employs, inventing terms that arent supposed to be clearly undertood. usually in novels little bits of detail about them are given about the terms,whether its a technology, or a psychic ability, a plague or a curse, anything.
you just seem to drop these terms and expect the reader to understand and follow along
cosmo- the cosmos?,the universe i guess
systemic-1 relating to a system 2 relating to an entire organism
pathogen-a biological agent that causes disease
grandiloquence has a place but if over used it will be condescending and pretentious. also dont confuse transcendentalism with being vague. your poem gave me no sense that you know what these words mean by definition. you may of intended them to mean something else, either way it doesnt matter because i dont know how the "pathogen-thing" was employed, or what made the "psychiatric-power" significant. no elaboration of what occured. we just are assured that "we are sorcerors of reality,the truely ascended kind"
so yeah, i originally liked the mysterious terms, but i mocked them because i dont think you understood fully what psychiatry is, what a pathogen is. but that doesnt even matter, i really dont have to understand what you mean by those terms. it doesnt effect an understanding to the completely vague poem you just wrote.
this is my last post in your thread. thats about as constructive as i get
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Then you might not get to see this.
Psychiatry. I exactly mean it as a branch of medicine concerning mental health, just not as studied by us lower-planers, for the other readers of this thread.
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cosmo- the cosmos?,the universe i guess
systemic-1 relating to a system 2 relating to an entire organism
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Duh man come on. its obviously about The cosmos relating to the system of biological agents.
Come on wasn't that completely apparent.
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It is not meant to be completely understood. These is the thoughts of a higher being, a 'post-human' perhaps. It certainly has reference to humanity's current situation.
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The poem is about a mind's ascension to higher things because he can
perceive systems.
And he sees that not just the real world has substance as a system or a universe.
All systems do.
Human politics is a universe.
A computer's programming is a universe.
He sees the kind that he has ascended beyond are trapped in the universes
they have built in their minds and the real world.
They are blind to the reality of the real world.
He is tempted to re-enter the universe of human thought and damage it (in
no supernatural way, just with words and proofs et cetere).
But he then sees that the blind have the potential to also reach beyond like
him; to also know and see universes.
For those who also transcend, he will be their guide. They will be a kind of
their own. The poem ends on that happy note.
The poem is about vision really.
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The Matrix is really just about humans being enslaved by machines and wanting free.
The Matrix is another universe too, in the sense given in my plot summary.
I hate stories like the Matrix though. Good stuff in it but humans are always assuming that they are the ultimate good and that the value of their lives overwrites anything else. That usually results in machine racism like what happens in the Matrix. If we survive long enough and continue on our same trend of thought, this will be a problem in the future.
If you watch the Animatrix, you'll see that the humans actually did some real bad shit to the machines.
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Fucking Hell Unanything, If you post a damn poem and someone criticizes it, you can't get all pissy and try to prove them wrong, after all it's meant to give them a perspective.
So when low_tech didn't get your 'ideal' perspective on the matter, you can't force it upon him and get all cut.
Fucking gotta learn to take shit if you post something artistic on a public forum.
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Fucking Hell Unanything, If you post a damn poem and someone criticizes it, you can't get all pissy and try to prove them wrong, after all it's meant to give them a perspective.
So when low_tech didn't get your 'ideal' perspective on the matter, you can't force it upon him and get all cut.
Fucking gotta learn to take shit if you post something artistic on a public forum.
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Tut tut...
...only people on the path to becoming ascended masters are going to truly
grasped the concepts and forward thinking of this masterful piece.
Keep up the good work Man !
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