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BBE sonic maximizer
I just picked one of these up. I haven't had a chance to test it out but as soon as I do I'll report my findings. I should make it out to the studio tomorrow.
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it does exactly what it says it does. makes your tone clearer
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A lot of people here dislike the Maximizer, I don't know why... I love it, It makes just as much of a difference as my EQ... Once you get it set up good for you turn it on and off for comparison, you will hear a HUGE difference... 
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Ill say it before anyone else,its a form of turd polish.I however,like them.It doesnt go with everything.
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you will hear a difference yes. but turned off it sounds better to me imo
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Ill say it before anyone else,its a form of turd polish.I however,like them.It doesnt go with everything.
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put it in front of a $3,000 amp and its an optional extra for those who want one.
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how does it make the sound better though... does it make the presence better? or make the sound more 3d or what...
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I never understood what it was. I thought it was an EQ or a poweramp of some sort, but since it's not I'm fucking clueless.
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Put it in front of a fifteen watt marshall and yes its a turd polish
put it in front of a $3,000 amp and its an optional extra for those who want one.
personally, i like how it makes my cleans sound
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it's a glorified parametric EQ, that controls you lows and highs. it also takes your signal and sort of "corrects it" for a smoother sound.
you'll notice it sounds smoother, tighter, and scoopier..... these might be thing you like.
i have one in my PA and it sounds good there, but in a guitar rig, it really depends on the amp... i've had some good sounds using it with some amps, and bad sounds using it with others. but in the end i preffer a dry sound with no external eq's. one less thing to worry about, and you have the satisfaction of knowing you dont need it because you bought an amp that sounds good enough on its own. 
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Put it in front of a fifteen watt marshall and yes its a turd polish
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I agree with that.... The BBE just slows down the bass frequencies out a little bit making it flow better with the treble... It may not go with every amp, but with my Randall and rack set-up, it kicks ass...
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It works with my 5150,wich is up for sale,BTW.
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Works with my Carvin poweramp/POD ( but I use the Aphex 204 version ). But I use it to turn one of my cabs into a glorified guitar subwoofer. Like I explained in the 'Gear Acquisition Syndrome' thread, I balance it with a dry 4x12, so I get the best of both worlds.
It makes the palm-muted triplets of death really kick. As it stands I would'nt play without it, once you go to feeling your guitar as well as hearing it, you don't want to go back.
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I read someone describe it as "Like taking a blanket off your Speaker Cab"
That kinda sums up how it sounds.
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I read someone describe it as "Like taking a blanket off your Speaker Cab"
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i like the raw natural sound. the sonic maximizer just feels to cold and overprocessed.
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If the Aphex came with out the 'Lo-bottom' option I would'nt use it. Because the harmonic enhancement process by itself is'nt all that tasteful in my opinion.
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problem is it kicks a lot of treble into my allready trebly setup. Evo Pickup, Peavey JSX
Gah... so much fucking treble.
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Mine sounds like the head is jerking off the cab into a cup.
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doesnt shadows fall also use the bbe sonic maximizer?
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I did a thread a while back when I got my new one. I did tests and differant sound clips of it on and off. I dont like usin it anymore, I did at first though.
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You use it with an e530,right?I didnt like it with mine.Sounds great on some other preamps,though.
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I read someone describe it as "Like taking a blanket off your Speaker Cab"
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Ofcourse it does, it takes out some mids, mids makes a sound boxier, or like you guys said, "puts a blanket on top of your speakers", Even an EQ with just a tad lowered mids will make you feel as if you have removed a blanket from the speaker
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After playing with it today I've decided I like it. Not overwhelmingly, but it does add to the sound. My High Gain channel on my jcm2000 sounds more crisp without sacrificing any of the punch. although, I think any more process and contour than half a turn is too much and makes it sound too processed. Cheers, thanks for the discussion guys. 
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IT IS A FUCKING TURD POLISHER.
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I see it as an EQ which has some spots already set
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You use it with an e530,right?I didnt like it with mine.Sounds great on some other preamps,though.
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when he got it he used it with his Randall combo, he didnt have the 530 yet.
You're not a 530 fan though are ya?
I have no idea why people tend to not like it 
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IT IS A FUCKING TURD POLISHER.
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It adds a pleasing edge to my attack when i use it on my clean channel. How is that turd polishing? I DONT PLAY A TURD AMP |
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Listen you crazy swede. We have allready determined that its not
It adds a pleasing edge to my attack when i use it on my clean channel. How is that turd polishing? I DONT PLAY A TURD AMP
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when he got it he used it with his Randall combo, he didnt have the 530 yet.
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I like it,but I dont love it.Im happier with an Ada mp-1.But hey,I said that before and then I got one again.Also,people who I know that dont like it used it with shitty poweramps,that has alot to do with it. |
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Listen you crazy swede. We have allready determined that its not
It adds a pleasing edge to my attack when i use it on my clean channel. How is that turd polishing? I DONT PLAY A TURD AMP
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if your amp isnt a turd, why do you need a bbe to make it sound good? that's the logic behind turd polish. so whether you play a bogner xtc or a marshall mg100. if you need a bbe, i think that you may have bought the wrong amp.
in the end its just an opinion thing. nobody is right or wrong.
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if your amp isnt a turd, why do you need a bbe to make it sound good?
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I dont NEED it to make my amp sound good, it sounds good withought it.
Just like you dont NEED a COmpression/Sustainer Pedal to make an amp sound good, its just an optional extra. If you like the way it sounds. Use one, if you dont. Dont use one. easy |
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I love how Maximizers are turd polishers but 32 band graphic EQ units are'nt.
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if you need the bbe to get the sound you preffer.. it can be considered turd polish. just like other eq's... and i suppose boost pedals could be thrown in the turd polish pile.
not to say it's all bad. but it's like telling your girlfriend you love her for who she is, and then you turn around and make her get a set of fake knockers.
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Your opinion is quite obviously biased. I am now going to disregard everything you have said and may say in the future regarding this topic.
I know i know, you dont care,
Guess what, i dont care either
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