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Old 2006-04-17, 15:47
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Power Amp Question

I am wondering if I purchase an additional poweramp, can I run my Peavey Triple X head through it in order to increase the volume? Because the Triple X on its own isn't very loud for being 120watts tube.

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Old 2006-04-17, 16:20
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Old 2006-04-17, 16:49
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+1 Are you nuts?

What the hell are you running it thru which doesn't get loud enough?
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Old 2006-04-17, 18:35
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+1 Are you nuts?

What the hell are you running it thru which doesn't get loud enough?


Here's my setup:

Jackson Rhoads > Peavey Triple XXX Head > Hartke 4x10 Guitar Cabinet

It is barely audibly over the other guitarist's amp and the drums for some reason. And I have the amp at full volume, but I think it's common knowledge that the volume peaks at about two o'clock.
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Old 2006-04-17, 20:36
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get a 4x12, and make sure the tubes are all good. old tubes lose volume. and blown tubes dont put out any power, also reducing volume.

also, what is your eq'ing like?
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Old 2006-04-17, 21:03
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Dude change your cab!!
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Old 2006-04-17, 22:49
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get a 4x12, and make sure the tubes are all good. old tubes lose volume. and blown tubes dont put out any power, also reducing volume.

also, what is your eq'ing like?


My EQ is as follows:

Ultra Channel - I don't really use this one much
Gain: 12 o clock
Volume: 3 o clock
Bass: 12 o clock
Mids: Dimed
Treble: 2 o clock

Crunch Channel
Gain: 12 o clock
Volume: 3 o clock
Bass: 12 o clock
Mids: 1 o clock
Treble: 3 o clock

Clean - Screw Cleans, I never use this channel (And btw, if any of you know how to convert it to a 3rd gain channel that'd be great).

And finally, how can I check whether my pre/powertubes are dying?
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Old 2006-04-17, 23:35
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use more mids plz
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Old 2006-04-18, 00:02
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use more mids plz


After about 1 o clock the change isn't really that noticeable. And I do have enough mids. Hmm.
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Old 2006-04-18, 00:53
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get a real guitar 4x12 cab.

how old are the tubes? look at them and make sure they all light up.
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Old 2006-04-18, 03:13
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Clean - Screw Cleans, I never use this channel (And btw, if any of you know how to convert it to a 3rd gain channel that'd be great).


Are you nuts?
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Old 2006-04-18, 06:44
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Ditch the poweramp Idea,and get a decent cab.
 
Old 2006-04-18, 14:40
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Ditch the poweramp Idea,and get a decent cab.


How exactly is another cabinet going to increase my volume?
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Old 2006-04-18, 16:23
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How exactly is another cabinet going to increase my volume?


Bigger speakers = more volume. Wattage =/= volume.
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Old 2006-04-18, 16:39
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More speakers = Volume as well, so you could use the 4x10 and the 4x12, or you could just be a n3wb and learn the hard way?
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it was too hifi for me...
it's like a hot chick that is horrible in bed.
 
Old 2006-04-18, 16:52
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the speakers is what lets the volume out, it will greatly affect your volume, two different speakers pumped with the same power will be different in loudness
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Old 2006-04-18, 17:05
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yea........ wtf. If your turning your shit up all the way on 120w of tube power then theres somthing fucked up with your rig. Like xdx said either get new tubes or a new cab.
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Old 2006-04-18, 17:29
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well, im pretty sure that hartke 4x10 cab is a bass cab. if so, those speakers arent focusing on the right frequencies either.

more speakers and bigger speakers move more air.
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Old 2006-04-18, 17:38
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My Laney is fuckin 50 watt and with my old ass musicman cab I can go to insane volume levels! There has got to be something wrong with that peavey or the cab your using.
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Old 2006-04-18, 18:37
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well, im pretty sure that hartke 4x10 cab is a bass cab. if so, those speakers arent focusing on the right frequencies either.

more speakers and bigger speakers move more air.


I'm pretty sure its a guitar cabinet, or at least that is what Samash.com markets it as. Anyways, I'm probably going to save for an Avatar cabinet in the near future. At the momen I might just borrow my friend's Marshall 1960 cabinet (or something like that). I'll check the tubes, but the amp was barely used before I bought it so I doubt it could be that.
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Old 2006-04-18, 21:09
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Could be that the tubes are fucked since you tried to play it through headphones LOL.

Try it on a different cab. If it still happens, then you can bet your left nut its your power tubes.

I think you bought yourself a tube amp without really knowing what you were getting yourself into.
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Old 2006-04-18, 21:26
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Could be that the tubes are fucked since you tried to play it through headphones LOL.





Hey, isn't it even loud enough thru your pals 1960 cab?
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Old 2006-04-18, 22:26
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well, im pretty sure that hartke 4x10 cab is a bass cab. if so, those speakers arent focusing on the right frequencies either.

more speakers and bigger speakers move more air.


Hartke does indeed have a 4x10 cab for guitars with a head as well. it's a "mini stack".

lol.
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Old 2006-04-19, 01:51
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Chances are it is a bass cab,though.Hartke are poor,eitherway.

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