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Old 2006-03-21, 05:09
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x2n with air norton

Hi guys, I want to buy DiMarzio humbuckers for my Ibanez RG370DX.
Do you find the x2n bridge / air norton neck a good combination.
As for the x2n I'm sure that I'll buy it, but the air norton I don't know, I need a humbucker for sweeping and warm tones to play solos from metal ballads, so is the air norton my choice for that.
Thank you in advance for replying.
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Old 2006-03-21, 08:08
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Go for it,also consider a PAF if you want.
 
Old 2006-03-21, 16:15
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Im planning on getting an X2N in my axe too and will probably put in a PAFpro in the neck for sweeps and solos. The air norton will sound good too though.
 
Old 2006-03-21, 16:52
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Thats my PU selection on my dime slime.

SICK FUCKING COMBO!

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Old 2006-03-22, 04:41
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Thats my PU selection on my dime slime.

SICK FUCKING COMBO!

Trust me, its deadly!!!

I don't know any metal guitarists that use the combo(do any death/thrash bands use it?), but it's the one in my Kelly(haven't installed the PAF Pro yet). It might also be the one on my Ironbird if I decide I don't want the EMG 81/85 tone it has.

The X2N is great. Didn't impress me THAT much but I haven't played it without pansy ass 9-42 strings yet.
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Old 2006-03-23, 16:10
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Im the only guy i know of (no joke) that uses that combo, but who cares what *insert band name here* uses for pickups, if it works it works, and trust me... IT WORKS
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Old 2006-03-23, 18:06
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I got a X2N/PAFpro combo. It sounds pretty good. The PAFpro is perfect for that warm sweep tone. I love it. Does anyone else get a alot bass out of the X2N?
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Old 2006-03-23, 19:48
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ive heard that the X2N is trebly from some people, and others tell me that it is bassy as hell. I too am curious about that question.
 
Old 2006-03-23, 22:51
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ive heard that the X2N is trebly from some people, and others tell me that it is bassy as hell. I too am curious about that question.

It's bassy in warm guitars, of course. But some people don't watch the EQ, ignore what kind of cabinet/speakers they have, ignore if they have really high or really low value volume pots, and ignore the fact that every amp is different. If you play only a Rectifier and I play only a JCM900, what might sound bassy to me is probably not bassy enough for you(now there's an assload of exceptions, but I'm trying to prove a point).

The X2N is perfectly balaced, no muddyness or warmth whatsoever. Just a pure cold punch in the face, with some more emphasis on the treble and mids so harmonics will sound nicer. If it had slightly less treble it would be perfect, but since it's not, just use it in warmer sounding axes and/or use lower value pots(250k) and use the tone knob a little bit, if you have one..
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Old 2006-03-23, 23:32
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I need to try to mess with an EQ. I really just got to expirement with it now that I actually have a decent amp.
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Old 2006-03-24, 04:23
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An external eq unit you mean right?
 
Old 2006-03-24, 05:12
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Run an EQ through your effects loop, that works very well for fine adjustments. Just make sure the volume/level on the EQ is set to normal, not higher or lower, and make sure it goes before going to the noisegate if you have one. At least my SS amp sounds like ass if I try to boost the line in the effects loop. Not that I need to though, it has plenty of gain.

Get a Danelectro Fish n Chips EQ for like 25$. Or you can shell 80$ for a Boss.
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Old 2006-03-24, 16:49
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I would like to run my RP200 into the effect loop to try to clean up the sound some. It has a built in noise gate. I got to get me another cable or so first, but I figured the EQ on it would at least help me shape the sound somewhat. I know it's not the best thing to use, but I'm trying to be conservative with money right now. Thanks!
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Old 2006-03-24, 17:26
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It's bassy in warm guitars, of course. But some people don't watch the EQ, ignore what kind of cabinet/speakers they have, ignore if they have really high or really low value volume pots, and ignore the fact that every amp is different. If you play only a Rectifier and I play only a JCM900, what might sound bassy to me is probably not bassy enough for you(now there's an assload of exceptions, but I'm trying to prove a point).

The X2N is perfectly balaced, no muddyness or warmth whatsoever. Just a pure cold punch in the face, with some more emphasis on the treble and mids so harmonics will sound nicer. If it had slightly less treble it would be perfect, but since it's not, just use it in warmer sounding axes and/or use lower value pots(250k) and use the tone knob a little bit, if you have one..


That explains a lot. Thanks man. I actually prefer a little more of a trebly sound. So i'll probably just order one and get a tech to put it in my maple bodied guitar along with 2 Dimarzio Pro tracks, tweak my amp settings and see how i like it. Worst case i take it out and put it in my alder bodied guitar and all shall be good. BTW all the electronics on my guitar are stock, so would i be correct to assume that the volume and tone pots are 250k or would i have to change those too?
 
Old 2006-03-24, 19:44
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That explains a lot. Thanks man. I actually prefer a little more of a trebly sound. So i'll probably just order one and get a tech to put it in my maple bodied guitar along with 2 Dimarzio Pro tracks, tweak my amp settings and see how i like it. Worst case i take it out and put it in my alder bodied guitar and all shall be good. BTW all the electronics on my guitar are stock, so would i be correct to assume that the volume and tone pots are 250k or would i have to change those too?

If your guitar electronics are passive, there's nothing you need to replace other than the pickup. Less you want to change the value of the volume pots, but honestly you won't tell any real significant difference. Unless you compare a 250k to a 1meg pot.

I wouldn't suggest the single coils you mentioned, the X2N does not work well with single coils unless you do coil splitting, it's way too powerful and will drown the singlecoils in shit. I would reccomend getting a singlecoil sized humbucker in the neck and ditch the middle pup.

I guess it's fine if you put it in your maple bodied guitar, just be prepared to cut down some highs on your amp and boost those lows, cause you won't have much bass. It might actually sound different, you never know, it depends on the quality of the maple wood. Agathis is a shitty wood also called "commercial grade mahogany", used on lower end BC riches, and they sound thin and shitty.
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Old 2006-03-24, 20:45
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Got a question somewhat related to the topic.

What does having a bigger (or higher) pot do to the sound? 250k compared to 500k? Will it give it more treble? bass? what?
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Old 2006-03-25, 16:01
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I wouldn't suggest the single coils you mentioned, the X2N does not work well with single coils unless you do coil splitting, it's way too powerful and will drown the singlecoils in shit. I would reccomend getting a singlecoil sized humbucker in the neck and ditch the middle pup.


I thought that the Pro Track was a single coil sized humbucker since it has dual stainless steel blades and on the dimarzio site it is under hum cancelling strat PUs. I was planning on using the protracks in combination with each other or by themselves for mellower type sounds, not with the x2n, for the reasons you mentioned. Thanks for the other info though.

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