2006-03-05, 14:10
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I need of a new tuning..
Hey i was wondering if you guys can enlighten me a bit on differant tunings i can use on my Rg , because standard tuning is becoming a little boring..
I also have a little tuner thing dunno wether its any good but heres the link to the info , can you let me know if theres any way on using that so i can get the tunings?
Tuner info
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2006-03-05, 14:53
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Press the Flat- button. One press--> half a step down. Try for example drop D tuning (dadghe)
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2006-03-05, 15:18
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tune to minor thirds
tune like a fiddle (fifths)
tune all fourths
edit: maybe tune to sets like ethnic strings
That tuner looks like it handles individual pitches and stuff so it should be fine. (fake edit: why do foreign people sometimes refer to B as H?)
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2006-03-05, 15:52
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Press the Flat- button. One press--> half a step down. Try for example drop D tuning (dadghe)
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dadgBe.
No one outside scandinavia will know what the hell you mean with H, its called B by everyone else.
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2006-03-05, 15:58
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If your used to standard, try a half step down, or a whole step. Drop d is pretty lame in my opinion.
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2006-03-05, 17:40
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Any open tunnings are always pretty and fun.
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2006-03-05, 17:57
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¨fuck, I always forget the B-thing. next time I'll try to remember
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2006-03-05, 18:19
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B standard is a bit of a jump from E standard but i like it a lot. Its got the brutal ness of low tuning but easy to apply theory too, compared to tunings like Eb and C#. Plus you can easily play songs in E standard tuning because the 5th string is now the E.
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2006-03-05, 18:24
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I can't stand drop tunings. Learn to play the guitar.
Just go down a few steps or something...but really, how can you get bored of a tuning? Maybe you're actually bored with the music you are playing?
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2006-03-05, 18:36
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I can't stand drop tunings. Learn to play the guitar.
Just go down a few steps or something...but really, how can you get bored of a tuning? Maybe you're actually bored with the music you are playing?
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oh dear. was this post meant to be funny or ironic?
Drop tuning does not equal cheating or not knowing how to play guitar. Observe Psycroptic, Nile, Origin.
You can easily get bored of a tuning. You can easily get bored of what its based in. I get bored of B Standard some times. You can also easily get bored of fourth intervals between strings...
Tuning dictates alot of what the feel of the piece is, in my opinion. If you maintain one tuning for ages then I reckon you can get bored. If you dont, more power to you, but its clear why itd be boring...
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2006-03-05, 18:40
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Im not bored of what music im playing because im not really playing much
Im trying to improve technique through using scales. But i just want to try a new tone really.
As for all this fifths n such.. youve lost me ive not really done much on theory , is there some chart or something telling me how many flats gives me the letter for the tuning ? i.e , # of flats for C or something?
( sorry if i seem so noobish )
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2006-03-05, 19:18
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How would i tune to c# using that tuner? id assume id have to add flats to it , but how many
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2006-03-05, 19:39
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Harmonic tuning:
e|-----|-----|-----|-----|---0-|
B|-----|-----|-----|---0-|-----|
G|-----|-----|---7-|-----|-----|
D|-----|---7-|-5---|-----|-----|
A|---7-|-5---|-----|-----|-7---|
E|-5---|-----|-----|-7---|-----|
If i tuned from standard tuning in that? would it give me drop-c?
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2006-03-05, 19:55
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The hell?
Guitar in standard is fourths with a major third so its:
E B G D A E
E to A = fourth (Five frets)
A to D = fourth (Five frets)
D to G = fourth (Five frets)
G to B = Major Third (Four frets)
B to E = fourth (Five frets)
Your flats as you refer to them are more commonly known as intervals, with the "flat" (working on an assumption of what youve been told) being half a step.
Half a step for instance is Eb to E
Half a step is, handily, what a fret is worth.
Whole step therefore would be Eb to Ab and its worth two frets
Minor third on a guitar scale is 3 frets (easy to remember) so its like 3rd fret followed by 6th fret is a minor third.
Minor third tuning starting at E (highest register) would be like:
E, Db, Bb, G, E, Db
All open minor thirds though. Depending on how small an interval you create between all strings depends on how many octaves you can get etc.
To answer your question directly, C# tuning (standard) is
C#, G#, E, B, F#, C#
Highs to lows as ever
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2006-03-05, 20:40
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um.. I think i get it Thanks for your help
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2006-03-05, 20:44
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Wrong
C# F# B E G# C#
Db Gb Cb Fb Ab Db
nm, i see its high to low, and not low to high
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2006-03-05, 20:54
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Wrong
C# F# B E G# C#
Db Gb Cb Fb Ab Db
nm, i see its high to low, and not low to high
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Fucking idiot. There is no such note as Cb in technical terms. Cb would be B. And theres no Fb either, genius because Fb is E. And speaking of strings, it is low to high.
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2006-03-05, 21:01
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Actually in technical terms, a Cb or a Fb can show up in charts. If you are in the key of F major and you want to put a B note accidental it may be written as B natural or Cb dependant on what the chart calls for and what would be easiest to read.
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2006-03-05, 21:05
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Actually in technical terms, a Cb or a Fb can show up in charts. If you are in the key of F major and you want to put a B note accidental it may be written as B natural or Cb dependant on what the chart calls for and what would be easiest to read.
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I was talking general theory there exists no Cb or Fb, likewise there exists no B# or E#. I do know you will see them on certain charts, but not very often.
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2006-03-05, 23:26
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Try D. Or Drop C. Or drop-A if you like Nile. It's retarted to say that Drop tunings are for people who can't play. I'd like to see people who say drop tunings are talentless play some Arsis and Nile and say that again.
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2006-03-06, 00:00
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Sometimes drop tuning is necessary
If Karl made Nile songs in Standard in Standard Tune it would sound like shit.
Seriously, Grab an axe and play Ruins in Standard. Tell me it doesnt sound like shit.
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2006-03-06, 00:41
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I was talking general theory there exists no Cb or Fb, likewise there exists no B# or E#. I do know you will see them on certain charts, but not very often.
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You must not read MUSIC, or ever played in a jazz band or any of that bull shit, fucking shit like that shows up all the time. Cb is B, Fb, is E, i was putting it like that because his tuner might just read flats instead of sharps, some do that, you fuck tard
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2006-03-06, 00:46
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oh dear. was this post meant to be funny or ironic?
Drop tuning does not equal cheating or not knowing how to play guitar. Observe Psycroptic, Nile, Origin.
You can easily get bored of a tuning. You can easily get bored of what its based in. I get bored of B Standard some times. You can also easily get bored of fourth intervals between strings...
Tuning dictates alot of what the feel of the piece is, in my opinion. If you maintain one tuning for ages then I reckon you can get bored. If you dont, more power to you, but its clear why itd be boring...
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2006-03-06, 00:49
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My thing against drop, is just more of a preference towards standard tunings, I do ocassionaly put my 6 in drop B (normaly in c#), for some III origin sickness
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2006-03-06, 03:12
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Originally Posted by Mapex7string
You must not read MUSIC, or ever played in a jazz band or any of that bull shit, fucking shit like that shows up all the time. Cb is B, Fb, is E, i was putting it like that because his tuner might just read flats instead of sharps, some do that, you fuck tard
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I do play in Jazz Band. And yes, it does show up. But I also have happened to take basic theory, where as a rule of thumb B is not written as Cb and E is not written as Fb. I'll end this fagdance right here before PST comes along and goes alcohol PMS again.
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2006-03-06, 05:56
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Try an octave down
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2006-03-06, 19:24
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Try an octave down
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2006-03-06, 21:35
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Go for the br00tal mortician style. Tune down as low as the guitar will go where the strigs still make noise, then half a step more.
Remember - when imitating mortician as well to drop the top string, and never play anything more complicated that the top 2 strings, open, as fast as you can. But don't be in precice time as the song will finish before you get up to reading this point, ready for your next 2 minute song intro.
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ah, that little guy, it took me awhile to figure it out but if you press the flat button twice then you will go down a full step you can do that all the way to A i think. try writing songs in different tunings you'd be suprised at how different they all sound.
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2006-03-07, 10:48
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Eadgg#e can make some interesting sounds, if you like discordant/jazzy stuff, really easily.
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I know this is a older thread but I have a tuning question. I used to play guitar a lot but haven't played for a few years (been sticking to drums a lot) but I am wanting to start learning all my theory, etc. How can I tune down to C with this same tuner? C-G-C-F-A-D
Do I put my finger on a certain fret and tune from there or what? Thanks for any help here guys!
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Originally Posted by kurt:ellis
Hey i was wondering if you guys can enlighten me a bit on differant tunings i can use on my Rg , because standard tuning is becoming a little boring..
I also have a little tuner thing dunno wether its any good but heres the link to the info , can you let me know if theres any way on using that so i can get the tunings?
Tuner info
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I know what you mean. I kind of get bored with playing in C-tuning. Sometimes I switch to Drop Bb to experiment with that. I'm thinking of tuning my guitar lower and see how it sounds, but I don't know if my strings are thick enough for a lower tuning.
I was thinking of tuning to something like, say, A or G. Something really low. But I don't think your tuner will help you tune that low. You may have to tune the guitar to itself. Or if you have a keyboard and know what the notes are that you need to tune, use that. Start on the lowest note (for the low string, of course) and work your way up.
To tune to lower tunings with your tuner, press the flat button for how many half steps oyu are tuning your guitar down to. For example, if you are tuning your guitar from E to D-tuning, you press the flat button twice, because the interval between those two notes is 1 whole step. The only two sets of notes that have an interval of 1 half step are F-to-E, and C-to-B.
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I do play in Jazz Band. And yes, it does show up. But I also have happened to take basic theory, where as a rule of thumb B is not written as Cb and E is not written as Fb. I'll end this fagdance right here before PST comes along and goes alcohol PMS again.
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Obviously you were taught wrong. Look at minor and major scales. Jump back to your Circle of 5ths, and relearn. Its called Enharmonic spellings. And when placing a scale over something.. i.e... A flat major scale. You will ONLY see that. Same with E# instead of F, and B# instead of C. Its the use of diatonic spelling.
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