for some odd reason i cannot get into cryptopsy and i feel im listening to the wrong songs, maybe its the vocals that get to me and i think its also probably because im into more progressive and melodic death. it would be helpful if some of you guys gave me some songs to listen to by them. im especially interested in them because of all the talk surrounding their technical skills. has anyone else had the same problem getting into them or is it just me?

Just you. Unless you`re listening to the wrong songs, even though you usually can`t go wrong with any cryptopsy. What songs have you heard?

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Listen to:
-Phobophile
-Abigor
-Gravaged
-Open Face surgery (Live is better IMO..)
-Cold Hate, Warm blood

MANY other too..

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SLIT YOUR GUTS!

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Frantic Pace of Dying
Keeping the Cavader Dog Busy
We Bleed
Endless Cemetary
all of em' are good.

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Dude.... the vocals suck on the new album.
But for atthegates1234: I'm presuming you listened to songs off either Whisper Supremacy or And Then You'll Beg, with Mike DiSalvo, and yes, his vocals are shit. Listen to the albums None So Vile (their best IMO) or Blasphemy Made Flesh. Anything off those albums should do you good. If it's the case of DiSalvo ruining it for you, then listen to stuff off those albums I reccomended, and if you become a fan of them, then try on DiSalvo, and Once Was Not, wich mind you was a good album, but it's not as good as any of their other's mainly because Jon Levasseur, the main songwriter quit and left us with Alex, the other guitarist.

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Buy None So Vile, every song is really good.

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Whisper supremacy!

Although you may not like the vocals, the music is just sooooooooo good, songs like Emaciate, Loathe and Faceless unknown will blow your mind. This album deffinitly ranks up as one of my top 5 albums of all time. But really, you can`t go wrong with any Cryptopsy.

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I have the same problem that you do, atthegates1234. I bought None So Vile and And Then You'll Beg, and the fact that I only really like two songs off of None So Vile makes me not really even want to listen to the other one.

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I kind of like Once was Not.And Then You'll Beg is my favorite,but Cryptopsy get boring fast.

I would suggest an axe to the head if you can't get into this band.

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None so vile is my favourite album, then whisper supremacy, followed by and then you'll beg.
I cant get into once was not, I think its poor compared to their other stuff.

All Cryptopsy is good. period.

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Then you will beg.IS the best

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I still have to check some of their music out. There's alot of bands I need to check out. I'm trying to get a hold of Obscura never heard it before. And only recently did I decide to listen to Cannibal Corpse. Hammer Smashed Face is awesome.

k thanks ill check out what you guys have recommended to me by cryptopsy

Yeah but he was talking about bad vocals. That album has their worst vocals.

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He didn`t say what vocalist the didn`t like though. There are actually alot of people who think lord worm sucks.

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..True.
But I can't get over how anyone could like ATYB vocals. DiSalvo sucked the worst on that album.

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true, and true.

tell us what youve heard man, but my favorites are Orgiastic Disembowelment, ...And then It Passes, Lichmistress, Defenestration, Pathological Frolic, Swine of the Cross, White Worms, Depths You've Fallen and Crown of Horns.

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Yeah, dude, we can't exactly help ya that much if we don't know what you've heard.

BENEDICTINE CONVULSIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I don't mind the vocals at all. I know they're not a brutal growling style, but it's nice to hear something different now and then.

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I agree,but I also despise LW.I forgot about Whisper Supremecy,that album is pretty cool.

sorry for not mentioning the songs earlier. in general ive heard mostly whisper supremacy and a few songs off once was not like The Pestilence That Walketh In Darkness, keeping the cadaver dogs busy, etc. but i have heard more of early Crytopsy and indeed i the album i have heard, Whisper Supremacy, has Di Salvo on it.

lol Iam wearing my longsleeve Cryptopsy shirt today its from Then You WIll Beg

why is everyone saying "Then you will beg" when it's "And Then You'll Beg" ??

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Uh, that's just one person who said it, dude. But, atthegates1234, pick up None So Vile. It will be worth it.

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Who else said it? Making up false information about mispelled Cryptopsy albums isn't going to impress us. We all know the real name of the album, it's just one person who happened to not type the word "and" in with the album.

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NSV>BMF>OWN>WS>ATYB

that is all.

And Then You'll Beg is Cryptopsy's meisterwerk. Any self-respecting extreme music fan's collection should not be devoid of such a monumental work of chaotic genius.

Di Salvo's vocals? Since when has any Cryptopsy fan wanted them to play by generic death metal rules? His vocals fit better to the more frantic style that has developed since Lord Worm originally left. Granted, None So Vile is a great album; but it's just so... simplistic for Cryptopsy. All of the following albums hold my attention for much longer.

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Yep. It took a while to realise to its full extent, but ATYB is definately Cryptopsy at their most fucked. Nothing like that album has been written before, it has one of the most unique and original riffing styles of all time in the death metal genre. However, I still like WS a bit more simply due to the sheer intensity, it doesn't let down for a second. And of course it comes very close to matching ATYB in the "fuckedness" factor. Also, I think that Lord Worm on NSV is still the best vocal performance on a Cryptopsy album.

WS->ATYB->NSV->OWN->BMF

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I totaly agree about ATYB being their masterwork.
My list would be ATYB>WS>NSV>BMF>OWN(really disappointed
with this album)

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Very well said, Mr. Mansley.

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Indeed very well said my friend.
1. ATYB
2. WS
I don't care about the rest comparing to this records.

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That's pretty much how I feel, although I do give None So Vile and Once Was Not a listen on occasion. I'm on a massive Whisper Supremacy drive at the moment and I can definitely see Tim's neat comparison between And Then You'll Beg and Whisper Supremacy, i.e. the latter carries sheer magnified intensity (Emaciate simply sands your face to the bone) while the former resides in a realm (of Reverie?) almost beyond the reaches of conceivable technicality.

I don't think Once Was Not is as bad as some have made out - and it is, once again, different. I thought Alex did a pretty good job as main songwriter and it will be interesting to see how his wings spread with increasing confidence and experience. Unfortunately, I still believe that Cryptopsy lost it's heartbeat when Jon left and this comparison will always be with Alex.

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Well said.

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I think Once Was Not is still a good album. Yeah, it's different than what they've done before, but different isn't necessarily bad. If the production was better, it would be a solid album. Not many people would be able to replace Jon, and still hold that genuine cryptopsy sound, but I think Alex did a damn good job, and i'm looking forward to see what comes about in the future.

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Jon wrote a significant part of OWN. I have a video of Jon, Alex, Eric and Flo playing an OWN medley (parts of In The Kingdom, Carrionshine and Adeste) from all the way back in 2003.

Anyway, I posted this in another forum in regards to ATYB. Took a while to write but such an album deserves proper attention:

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hahaha, thats pretty damn funny when so many people seem to think that own sucks and "Jon would have saved it" and all that. Sure, Thats only three songs, but if that was back in 03, chances are that he wrote even more songs or atleast part of them.

And I agree with atyb, great album.

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Yeah, I definitely think a lot of people already decided that it would turn out subpar without Jon before they even heard the album.

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Or Jon was his own worst critic and that's why he left the band...

Just a theory.