I was wondering if anyone knows some scales that give off a melodic sound or classical sound and could give me a list of them or something? Im not sure if you all saw this video but It was Alexi Laiho and Roope Latvala playing vivaldi's summer.I beleive the video is called Passage to the reaper and I like the way it sounds so some scales in that area would be kewl. Even something that Children of Bodom uses, do you know what some of the scales ares used in children of bodom?

Thank you.

To save you from a flaming, I will inform you about the search feature, it is in the top of the navigation bar and you can search the forum for whatever you need. If you need something that isn't already being discussed, then post a new topic.

On the subject of your question, Alexi is very influenced by classical music, and the theory, in general, is an awful lot to digest. I have been studying Children of Bodom, Yngwie Malmsteen, Jason Becker, etc. and have still not mastered all the theory you need to know to write neoclassical sounding licks and melodies.

Here's a few pointers:
-Use your basic major/minor, harmonic minor, and melodic minor scales
-Use the church modes to your advantage, mastery of each of these will help you further on
-Use a pedal tone or phrase in your leads
-Wider intervals sound classical
-Use arpeggios
-Play through a progression using arpeggios, using the major or minor arpeggio followed by a diminished arpeggio sounds classical.

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That little harmonized trem picked part follows the phrygian mode shape.

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What are you talking about?

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Can't remember offhand, this is from memory.

The phrase goes something like this...



It moves up the neck each pass. It may descend more in the scale too. I can't totally remember.

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umm. pretty confusing.. lol but do you meanI'm not sure if the tuning's right but the pattern is..)

E --10-8-6-------------------------------
B ----------10-8-7-----------------------
G ------------------9-7-5----------------
D -------------------------8-7-555555555


??

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learn these scales

pure (natural) minor
harmonic minor
melodic minor
diminishes

DONE!!!!!!!

combine harmonic minor with diminished to egt some classic feel, or even combine major with diminished, can sound verry classical aswell

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Yea... that's prob right. I never tried to play it... and man it's not phrygian mode now is it.

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whats a church mode?

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The church modes are the seven modes of the major scale. They are, in order:

Ionian
Dorian
Phrygian
Lydian
Mixolydian
Aeolian
Locrian

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ooooooh

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Was doing some sweep exercises...I think this sounds quite classical(minor,major,minor,dimnished)

I think Winds Of Creation by Decapitated had a really classical feel to it, and that's probably because the band were fresh out of music school when it was made.

There's a lot of use of harmonic and natural minor and their modes on it. The main riff in The First Damned is in D# Phrygian.

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Technically speaking, Locrian isn't a church mode, although it is a mode of the major scale. It's just not refered to in music theory as a church mode.

What theory have you been taking? It IS one of the church modes, as the church modes are only a name for the names of the seven modes of the major scale. They were named so because each mode of the major scale consists of only white keys on the organ/piano. So the Locrian technically is a church mode. It said so in Guitar World awhile ago. Then again, Guitar World could be wrong.

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There are eight church modes:

I Dorian
II Hypodorian
III Phrygian
IV Hypophrygian
V Lydian
VI Hypolydian
VII Mixolydian
VIII Hypomixolydian

[Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modes]

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I found this scale in Guitar Pro 5's scale list when I was last on it.
Very melodic.

The Iwota scale I believe it was called.
It's a pentatonic, despite having a very melancholic, Greek, churchy feel.



Nice and easy to remember. And shift about in fast!
Slightly altering it has interesting results. Shift the 7th a semitone down perhaps...

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You forgot Ionian and Locrian. Mental note to everyone.....The hypo scales, if I remember correctly, are just the said modes starting at the fifth. Hypodorian starts on A. yadda yadda yadda.

I don't know why you guys call them "church modes.".....they're just modes.

Locrian is a mode. It is not used because it has no perfect fifth interval in its scale. B-F is a tritone. It sounds death metal.

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I sort of explained the whole "church mode" name thing above. It was in a past issue of Guitar World. Relates to the modes being only the white keys on a church organ/piano.

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The superlocrian scale is even more death.
Flatten the fourth to a major 3rd and you've got it.
It's the last mode of the jazz minor.

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I love the Iwato scale
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Sty...itar/xotic.html

That site has it, and a lot more exotic ones like it.

Then there's the Octatonic Half-whole, or the Auxiliary Diminished Blues, or the Diminished Half.
I know that scale like the back of my hand.

Then there's this wierd one which I've seen nowhere else but on the paper I formulated it on, which I call the Macdonaldian, after myself.



That has some freakish modes.

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mcdonalds?

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Slagging my family name?!

WE ARE THE LAST FEW TO BEAR THIS SPELLING OF OUR NAME!
THE REST WERE WIPED OUT IN THE GLENCOE MASSACRE!

No, the Macdonaldian.
From Macdonald.

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