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Old 2006-01-18, 11:42
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Crate Powerblock

I just found this thing...never saw it before!
Anyone of you has had experience with it?
What do you think about it? :X

http://www.music123.com/Crate-CPB150-i155611.music


Im just confused...
 
Old 2006-01-18, 18:49
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Um, as its own thing, no. As a poweramp for your POD/V-amp/Tonelab SE, i've heard it's great for that, and that's more its intended use...
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Old 2006-01-18, 22:54
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I got one about 2-3 months ago. I must say I was pleasantly surprised for the price. It doesn't have a really high distortion Its just got sort of a Marshall overdriven chunky crunch. I like it because its not really sterile like most SS amps. It gets a good death(band not genre) tone but mostly I just use it as a poweramp for my GT-8 or a backup amp.

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Old 2006-01-19, 00:32
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Yeah,they are a perfect back-up.Take it anywhere you take your main rig.
 
Old 2006-01-19, 03:28
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I couldnt see it as a main amp, ever. I mean it seems like a good option for a cheap, decent sounding power amp, but thats about it.
 
Old 2006-01-19, 05:00
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See it.
 
Old 2006-01-19, 08:27
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whats it like compared to a head from the marshall mg series?
 
Old 2006-01-19, 23:21
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About 10000x better.


The Crate Powerblock is like a distortable single channel tube amp. Get a boost pedal for 50$ and you've got a screaming metal head for 250$ ( okay, its not a Framus Cobra or anything, but you can hardly beat its price ).
 
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Old 2006-01-20, 06:31
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What overdrive pedal would u recommend using with the powerblock for a good Death Metal tone?
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Old 2006-01-20, 06:51
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Old 2006-01-20, 07:12
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Relax,you can pick one up from most Music Stores.
 
Old 2006-01-20, 09:14
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The Crate Powerblock is like a distortable single channel tube amp. Get a boost pedal for 50$ and you've got a screaming metal head for 250$ ( okay, its not a Framus Cobra or anything, but you can hardly beat its price ).



So, should I rather get this crate powerblock + cabinets instead of a marshall mg 100 HDFX head+cabinets?

Atm I have a boss DS 1 distortion pedal and the digitech death metal distortion pedal!
 
Old 2006-01-20, 10:43
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So, should I rather get this crate powerblock + cabinets instead of a marshall mg 100 HDFX head+cabinets?

Atm I have a boss DS 1 distortion pedal and the digitech death metal distortion pedal!


Powerblock + Avatar 4x12. Can't beat the price.

http://www.avatarspeakers.com

I plan on getting a 2x12 once I start gigging, that is IF I do.
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Old 2006-01-20, 10:55
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Old 2006-01-20, 13:29
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So, should I rather get this crate powerblock + cabinets instead of a marshall mg 100 HDFX head+cabinets?

Atm I have a boss DS 1 distortion pedal and the digitech death metal distortion pedal!


Use the DS1 with the Powerblock, which will be many, many, MANY times better than the Marshall MG. Understand this early on : The Marshall MG is a shitty amplifer. The Marshall MG is a shitty amplifier. The Marshall MG is a shitty amplifier. The Marshall MG is a shitty amplifier. The Marshall MG is a shitty amplifier. The Marshall MG is a shitty amplifier. The Marshall MG is a shitty amplifier. The Marshall MG is a shitty amplifier. The Marshall MG is a shitty amplifier. The Marshall MG is a shitty amplifier. The Marshall MG is a shitty amplifier. The Marshall MG is a shitty amplifier. The Marshall MG is a shitty amplifier. The Marshall MG is a shitty amplifier. The Marshall MG is a shitty amplifier. The Marshall MG is a shitty amplifier. And its corresponding cab is also shitty. Here's what you do if you're on a tight budget :

Buy the Powerblock. 200$.

Buy a Legion by Madison 4x12. About 250$.

For under 500$, you've got what is in practice a single-channel tube amp ( its not tube at all, in reality. But its sound behaves disturbingly like one ) that you CAN get a very good sound out of.
 
Old 2006-01-20, 16:12
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Well the samples on MF sound decent...but try it out yourself. If it doesnt fit you, dont buy it.

Honestly before buying ANY amp i'd recommend THOROUGHLY THOROUGHLY THOROUGHLY researching your options. There are a lot of sleepers out there...

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Old 2006-01-20, 23:44
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Hey just wondering,is the Marshall MG a shitty amplifier??
 
Old 2006-01-21, 02:32
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Hey just wondering,is the Marshall MG a shitty amplifier??


ive heard that zakk wylde uses an mg mircostack to warm up before he goes and plays live
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Old 2006-01-21, 02:47
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thats ok on my mg i can get a pantera sorta sound going
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Old 2006-01-21, 12:24
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zakk and the guy from static x use mg 100hdfx heads.

I just wondered, since a mg head costs much more than this crate power block.

arent there any other opinions?

Crate Powerblock > Marshall MG 100HDFX

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I just wondered, since a mg head costs much more than this crate power block.


You're paying about 250$ more for that nameplate.


And Zakk uses JCM's. A far cry from an MG.
 
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No, its not that you HAVE an MG, its the fact that you believed an advertisement stating that Zakk uses one backstage, that disappoints me. Marshall is paying Zakk money ( or at the very least, giving him magazine exposure, which is worth probably more than money ) to say that he uses one backstage. He can have WHATEVER he wants, and he's not going to have a shitty 30 watt mini-stack joke whenever he can have a vintage 12" all tube combo, which is probably what he dicks around on in the tour bus with.
 
Old 2006-01-21, 14:21
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You're paying about 250$ more for that nameplate.


And Zakk uses JCM's. A far cry from an MG.


hmm...check the marshall site...and remove the quote. Thats where I know it from, and its not that I bother, he sucks anyway imo.
 
Old 2006-01-21, 15:18
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hmm...check the marshall site...and remove the quote. Thats where I know it from ...


As long as Zakk is endorsed by Marshall, he's going to say that he uses anything that they tell him to. Funny enough, when they actually put his name on a Marshall head, it sure as hell was'nt an MG.

And while magazines may say that Static uses an MG100 head with its matching cabs ...


http://www.gibson.com/whatsnew/pres...ayneStatic4.jpg

http://media.prod4ever.com/static-x...57256060805.jpg

http://media.prod4ever.com/static-x...eredclothed.jpg

Ahem, because I like being right so much ...

NO. Whenever you see just cabs and nothing else on stage, that means that he's probably using rack gear. And that is verified in the last picture. Also, the pictures in which he's used Marshall cabs, they're obviously the 1960 cabs that are actually very, very good.









































What's that in the lower left hand corner? PWN3D.

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Old 2006-01-21, 15:32
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And while magazines may say that Static uses an MG100 head with its matching cabs ...


http://www.gibson.com/whatsnew/pres...ayneStatic4.jpg

http://media.prod4ever.com/static-x...57256060805.jpg


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Yep. And I have'nt even started covering Zakk yet.


Even the magazines say that he uses JCM's.
 
Old 2006-01-21, 15:57
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I just told you what I read, and I dont bother about....at least I´m not wasting time with searching through the internet just for finding some pictures which may proof that THIS guitarist isnt using THIS amps and so on...thats just poor. I dont have to impress people with knowledge about gear shit. About your childish "PWNED"...
get an account on guitarwar.com and I will give u a PWNED, since im not wasting my time with this gear stuff I got more time to practice whats it all about - playing the guitar. Dont forget...

when u try to manage to get on an guitar university, they wont ask u what cabs and amps u got at home. Your stupid mesa 3000€ stuff wont help u at all if u cant play the guitar. Noone asks u about gear...you should know that.

So dont try to impress people with stupid gear shit.


But thanks for your help before anyway.
 
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At least it isn't *a english university.
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I just told you what I read, and I dont bother about....at least I´m not wasting time with searching through the internet just for finding some pictures which may proof that THIS guitarist isnt using THIS amps and so on...


I hate the sound of a Marshall MG. I want to do what I can to keep people from buying it. I am doing the world a favour by keeping people from having to listen to it. If it were 'allegedly' another amplifier I would'nt care. It actually pisses me off whenever someone says they use an MG or a Krank, and then someone BELIEVES it, and spends their hard earned money on something on something terrible. THEN they learn more about buying equipment, discover the used market, and then wish to whatever god they pray to that they had spent their money differently.

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when u try to manage to get on an guitar university, they wont ask u what cabs and amps u got at home. Your stupid mesa 3000€ stuff wont help u at all if u cant play the guitar. Noone asks u about gear...you should know that.


That's an invalid argument. Being passionate about your own aural fingerprint is'nt necessarily a characteristic of someone who can't play guitar. NOT PRACTICING is a characteristic. So why assume that I don't practice? Its kind of not fair to, ahem, make this up about me and then use it as leverage in this discussion.


And to keep on subject ... buy a powerblock

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Old 2006-01-21, 23:38
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Nuh uh.

The Crate Powerblock does.
 
Old 2006-01-22, 01:33
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pfff, my dick is so big it has its own dick.

And even my DICK's dick is bigger than all your dicks, including the powerblocks.
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I think teh crate poweblcok 'sa head is probalby the bvest for noob ampness. For 2004. I mean 32004. I mewan I mean 200$.
 
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So dont try to impress people with stupid gear shit.

the way you're trying to impress people with all this "university" and "i actually practice" shit?

if johnny wants to spend a couple minutes fishing out pictures to prove his point, there is nothing wrong with that... but then again he should have been running up and down his scales instead right?
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I didnt say and mean that you dont practice just because you are interesyted in this gear stuff. What I wanted to say, that I rather practice guitar instead of "wasting" my time for this gear things. (in my opinion its a waste of time )
And whenever it comes up to playing guitar, noone is interested in your equipment. A guy with the shittiest gear ever could probably kick anyones ass in here...you know what I mean?

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guitar playing is not all about scales etc. there is much more about it, you should know that.

@dissection: "smart"


I didnt want to have an argument with anyone here, I dont know shit about gear and thats why I asked about the powerblock and the mg. I didnt know that Im an asshole just because I dont know that zakk doesnt use a mg head.
 
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If you have the 'shittiest' gear ever,you wont sound as good as someone that has decent gear.You cant play as well on a shitty guitar as on a better one,you cant make much use of the amplifiers dynamics in your playing if its a piece of shit.
 
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Well, I just think that Al Di Meola will be better than anyone in this forum...no matter what amp he is using.
 
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when the fuck did i say guitar playing was all about scales?

don't talk to me like you know what i know.

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....What the fuck has this forum come to? Is it going to be like this every time someone mentions those two most trecherous letters(MG)? I sure hope not. I'd start a fucking world of warcraft account if I wanted to see people talk in fucking binary code...shit.
 
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HEY METUAL MONKEY!11!!HOW OLD ARE YOU SERIOUSLY!?LOL
 
Old 2006-01-23, 08:24
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13 by my count.
 
Old 2006-01-23, 08:40
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Id say 9.
 
Old 2006-01-23, 08:54
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your both wrong im 6 and 5 quarters
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Old 2006-01-23, 09:29
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Serious,how old are you?fucking 5 quarters.
 
Old 2006-01-23, 11:37
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hahaha read my profile
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Old 2006-01-23, 23:18
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Oh,I see.

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