couldnt find an answer in the threads ive searched.

i use a preamp (digitech gsop 2101) and i finaly got some good sounds coming from it so i decided to keap it. i use the preamp with no poweramp at the moment. The preamp could use some more gain, but i dont wanna use a overdrive pedal to boost it,

I know powertubes will distort the sound in their own way, but wil this also add gain to the preamp sound????

since a head only get its full gain when you krank those powertubes

right?? thats all i needed to know

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well uhm.. kinda depends if you use a tube or s.s. power amp.
S.S. distortion on a poweramp would be a bad thing..

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the preamp has 2 12ax7 preamp tubes init

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my engl poweramp allows my 530 to sound pretty brutal

not quite as brutal as the 570 though

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that didnt make sence

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neither did that.

ever played a tube head??? if you did you'll know that when u have the master volume (wich usualy drives the poweramp tubes) set to 1 u wont have as much distortion as when u set your master volume to 10, there for it distort the sound more right??

atleast that was the case on my engl savage 60 head

but will this also increase the gain?? if u use a tube poweramp with a tube preamp?

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pretentious bastard, if you got something to say, say it. dont hide behind your fucking emotion icons

E FIGHT E FIGHT E FIGHT

maybe i should make a thread called XDX COME IN HERE

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i'm always here.

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Great... so euhm....... do you have an answer to my question all mightygeargod??

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yes, buy playing your preamp through a tube poweramp at high volumes, you have the powertube saturation and the speaker breakup going on, it will make you sound thicker, more powerfull, and with an increased feeling of gain.

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From my experience, pushing a poweramp doesn't add a whole lot of gain. It adds some major balls to your tone though. MAJOR crunch added to your palm mutes. Just makes a guitar sound better to my ears.

Usually if you think you need more gain, you probably don't. For instance, I use a Digitech GSP 21 Legend (a dumbed down version of what you have, no S-Discs and not as many effects) and I thought it would never sound good until I got my cabinet. The thing made it come to life, and I actually backed off the gain a bit. I'll be getting a peavey classic 50/50 on friday so I'm sure those little bulbs of tone can only add to the sound.

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+1

i find the more i practice, the less gain i need... like my splawn i keep the gain at 5, and on my powerball on the low gain mode i only have it at 4. still plenty to sound "brutal" but still toneful and clear, less compression. as i turn the amp up more sometimes i even back of the gain a little more.

powertube grit and speaker breakup arent really going to sound like you put a tube screamer in front of it or anything drastic, but you'll notice more power in your sound.

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Exactly. It also helps that I have duncan livewires, but I think I'll be getting EMG's on my next 2 guitars.

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I was pointing out something for him.Why the hell would I need to hide behind emoticons?I was trying to help him,pfucker.Now play nice.

i feel the same way. but i still have the gain at like six. i use the od 1 chabel .

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ok thnx for the answers!!!!

it still want some more gain though im a gain freak i like it, it feels tomuch like playing a clean amp for some reason, maybe its just me though

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I used to be like this. Until I started realizing that it was compromising my tone. If you like the basic tone you have, run it through a tube power amp and 4x12, maybe the "magic" those two items work will be enough.

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