True, but surely the higher the definition everyone's televisions become the more stretched the images will have to be in order to fill the screen, and it will lose a certain degree of its intended look as a result anyway, until the transfers are updated to match the higher resolutions. My knowledge about the technical shit is limited, I could be barking up the wrong tree here haha.

Watching Deniro makes me fantasise about being an actor, kinda like how watching lesbian porn makes me fantasise about being a dildo.

I'm just busting your balls. I don't expect everyone to have the same awesome taste in movies that i do

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at paddy:

i'm not a threat!! see!!

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Haha. Yeah I know you weren't actually pissed off at me. I just wanted to make it clear that I wasn't trying to offend anyone.

I do love Al Pacino though, anyone else here a big fan?

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He's the dog's bollocks' hairs. Don't think I've ever gotten bored of watching him, even when the films he's in are shit.

Speaking of shit films, I watched about an hour of Public Enemies and gave up. I just can't be fucking bothered. I switched off when Johnny Depp was chatting-up some broad in a bar, and I pretty much knew exactly what they'd say to each other before they said it. Tired old hogwash. It also looks like it was directed/filmed by first year film students. Dodgy out-of-focus shots and bizarre, uncomfortable close-ups, and not in a "watch as I defy convention" kinda way either; just shit, sub par, distracting mediocrity.

Who actually gives a fuck about 1930s gangsters anymore? I'm so sick of hearing the language and seeing the clothes and watching the Tommy Gun battles. I thought "hey, it's 2009, and it's starring Johnny 'I Only Do Art Films' Depp, they're probably presenting some other angle or revealing some other truth about humanity and evil and morals that no one else has". No such luck. Same old shit.

Christian Bale just makes my skin crawl these days too, which didn't help. I know most actors are cunts, but it's easier to ignore that fact if you don't actually hear/see them being said love-organ-receptacle. I always thought that smug cunt's expression he always had on his mug was just part of the characters he plays. Gaaaaaaaa!

Shaun of the Dead was great and the first two Godfather films were epic. Fuck all of you guys for having different opinions. May you all die via flamethrower/trash compactor combination.

The Big Lebowski is the greatest thing anyone could ever watch. Has anybody ever seen Ghost Dog?

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QFT!

I rented Choke and now have a $12 late fee. Sucks that I didn't watch it either.

The Big Lebowski is a pretty good movie. I don't know about the best ever though.

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Fuck, thank you. I was beginning to think I was alone on this (which really surprised me). SHAUWWWN!

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Paddy, did you ever watch Johnny Dangerously like I told you to?
Tis the season. I gotta check and see if Freaks is gonna be on this month sometime.
Anyone seen Surf Nazi's Must Die? That looks hilariously bad.

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I think one of his best films of all time was Scent of a Woman. Man, I never get tired of watching that film.

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Uh ohhhhhs. I loves that film too. Hope that doesn't change your opinion.

No seriously, movies are for the iiliterate.

and the blind. Cage!

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Hell yea! Awesome movie.


Movie for you all to watch:
"One eyed monster"....go to the scene with the guy in the car lol...

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Honestly wtf did i miss then...

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I LOVE the Big Lebowski...the dude!

and i'm a fan of the godfather 1 &2....the 3rd one was just awful though


right now I feel like watching State of Grace with Gary Oldman. I'm a big Oldman fan.

I've never seen State of Grace, but Gary Oldman is fucking awesome.

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I haven't seen many Gary Oldman movies. Sid & Nancy is the only one to come to mind. Which reminds me of my favorite scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwuYM3OdSq0

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Is that a good movie? Gary Oldman plays pretty fucked up people usually.

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Oldman was Dracula in Bram Stokers Dracula , eh?
Pretty good movie actually it`s my favourite Dracula-movie (ok the Leslie Nielsen Dracula was cool too)

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Where the Wild Things Are was ridiculously good. Anyone else watch it yet?

It's hard to put me finger on how I feel about the movie. I enjoyed it yet it was depressing to watch. It's one of those movies I don't want to watch often; maybe once every couple years like I do with Requiem for a Dream.

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Aww did your mommy take you out to da movies...so sweet.

Just picking. I saw the previews, doubt i go watch it in the theater...be one of those movies if im bored and all out of dvds to watch I'll rent for the hell of it. Remeber reading the book when i first started school, it was so damn short, how they came up with the idea for a movie is wild.

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Watched Oldboy for the first time yesterday. Man that movie was fucked up. I might watch it again tonight.

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i wanna (will be going to see) saw vi, cirque de freak & hopefully fantastic mr. fox next weekend.

may have to sweet-talk bf a bit to go see the last one! & i want to see where the wild things are too!! but fantastic mr. fox more lol

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Awww the first saw movie was ok, but the movie-series got worse with every new saw movie. Even though I love watching people die

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gomli *hugs*

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So, last week I finally saw Pulp Fiction for the first time ever, and I feel like a complete tosser for not seeing it sooner What a fucking fantastic film. I'm actually going to watch it again this week haha, it was just that good.

I also saw The Midnight Meat Train. It was decent, but nothing special.

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Oldboy, perhaps slightly less so than Audition, is probably my favourite Asian Extreme film. If you want a laugh you should check out the Bollywood rip-off of Oldboy. Oh, and if you want an even bigger laugh, keep your eyes peeled for the 2010 remake featuring...

Wait for it...

WILL SMITH!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1321511/



Pulp Fiction is probably the most likeable Tarantino film I've seen. I'm not a fan in general, but I would watch this one again.

Yeah, it was alright. I had read the short story it was based on and as such had high hopes for the film, but as soon as I saw the trailer I knew what we were in for. It's watchable, but I doubt I'd watch it again for at least another 3 years. It's weird, even though I had read the story I kept getting a sense of predictability when I was watching the film. Obviously I knew what was going to happen, yet it still felt disappointingly predictable. It makes me wonder if that sense hasn't actually got anything to do with "I know what's gonna happen next" and has more to do with the decisions made by the film-makers in how they shoot and set-up the scenes, etc. I guess when you know you are being led down a specific path towards some pay-off at the end it feels cheap and patronising, which sucks the enjoyment right out of the scene altogether when the pay-off finally comes, right on cue. It's like the pay-off is what matters the most, which is like saying the cum-shot is the only reason people watch porn. Which is what I felt was the film's greatest downfall - it was all about "cum-shots" with some anal fisting thrown in to fatten-up the run time.

Sorry, I have another Firefox tab open and it's a little distracting...

The best part of the Grindhouse movies - the fake trailer for a film entitled Machete - is being developed into an actual film entitled Machete.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0985694/

Looking forward to this Danny Trejo is the fuckin' man.

All Hail to the dude for From Dusk till Dawn!
We got white pussy, black pussy, stinky pussy

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Actually, Cheech Marin (the guy who gives the pussy speech in From Dusk 'Till Dawn) is gonna be in this, too!

george clooney in dusk till dawn, drool

enough said

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A movie called Machete... yea, I'm having a really hard time seeing where that's going.

Fuckety, can anyone point me to some good horror movies? Not zombies, not leap-out-the-closet-lameness, but real good horror that sneak into your head, follow you home and nestle happily under your bed. The last I had was really The Path, which is only a movie by stretching the definitions pretty far, and all I've come across in the last few weeks bored me into a daze after ten minutes. Yes, gore is bore.

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You mean that videogame, The Path?
Was one of the most beautiful things I've played since long.

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Damn, one more here on the green fields.
Yep, that's the one. Fuck, I can still recall when I first realized what was actually going on - Ruby in the playground - and it still sends a chill. That's the kind of horror I like, but it's rare.

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I saw Quarantine. It was pretty creepy (especially when you imagined yourself in their situation), but I head it was HEAVILY based off of the movie REC. I heard that was waaaay better, so I want to give it a watch.

Even the friggin' trailers were almost identical haha.

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Here's a short clip of an upcoming British comedy film by Chris Morris (Brass Eye, The Day Today) called Four Lions, about a group of inept Arab terrorists in Britain:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/vide...-lions-sundance

I've been waiting for this forever, looks like it might be good.

It's not heavily based off of it, it's a REMAKE off of it.

Yes. A remake. Less than a year after the original. And trust me, the Spanish one was brrrrrrilliant, and mostly cause of with some events happening, the director didn't gave the actors the slightest clue of what was about to happen. Great film, though it became quite standard "runfromthezombiesbitch!"-shit about halfway.

Haven't watched the remake, and by God I never will.

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saw Halloween 2 last night, the Rob Zombie remake. It was pretty good, much better than his take on the original, in my opinion. Some pretty decent gore scenes as well. I mean there's really only so much you can do with a crazed monstrous serial killer that hasn't been done before.

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Holy hell, I somehow found myself watching Peter Jackson's The Lovely Bones a couple nights ago and it was easily one of the worst movies I've seen in a long, long time. It was so unbelievably fucking horrible I can't even think. I would normally leave the theater but I had to watch just to see how awful it could get. It kept topping itself, scene by scene! I would seriously recommend sneaking in to see it just to witness how bad a movie can be.

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Several month ago I posted that "Bad Lieutenant" was to be remade and was to feature Nicholas "Will Act For Food" Cage in the lead role. I watched it when it was released but immediately forgot about it, given its utter forgettability, hence the lateness of my sweet and long-awaited review.

My extremely low expectations were well advised. Ignoring the film itself for a moment, let me just say again that Nicholas Cage is fucking awful. Easily the worst A-list actor I've ever seen. I wish him harm.

The film was interminable, the characters were flat and hollow which on the face of it sounds physically impossible, but they've somehow managed to pull it off here. It's like each character had one mood, one train of thought, and no room to manoeuvre even if they had the talent to do so. They were all lifeless chess pieces with a frowny face painted on them, and the game was being played by a TV-movie director who got lucky.

Why they called this film Bad Lieutenant is beyond me. There are three things which link this film to the original:

1. A drug addicted, degenerate gambler cop (I didn't even know they existed!!1!1!)
2. A scene involving abuse of police authority for sexual purposes
3. The title

There's a curious state of affairs with regards to whether or not this was actually a remake of the Harvey Keitel classic or if the title and vague similarities in the plots were just coincidence. Every single piece of literature available describes it as a remake, but the director has said in interviews that he's never even heard of Abel Ferrara (the director of the original). Whatever the truth of the matter, it's a piece of shit.

I imagine if a non-shit actor had been in the lead role it would have been much more tolerable, but there wasn't, and it isn't.

Speaking of Nicholas Cage and why I would like to hear his gargled screams through Luca Brasi's garrote wire, has anyone seen "Bringing Out the Dead"? Directed by Scorsese, and I honestly would have loved this film had I not been distracted every 10 minutes by a little voice in my head saying "does this guy even know he's in a movie?". As it turned out I disliked the experience of watching it, even though every performance other than that of Cage (and to a lesser extent, Patricia Arquette) was pretty solid. That sums Cage up for me - the shit oozing from his pores stains everything around him a putrid yellow. His mediocrity is contagious.

I'm not bitter, I just consider him a pollutant, and movies are the only forum in which I'll gladly side with the tree huggers.

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DIE CAGE!!! DIIIEEE!!!!!1! Stop ruining movies! You're the movie equivalent of The Noid! Whatever that is! Why am I shouting??1!!!

Yours,
Pawdy.

Agreed on Cage. Movies he are in tend to be bad.

on another note, this documentary is pretty good, and funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI

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I haven't seen these vids yet, but I'm guessing they're far more enjoyable than The Phantom Menace!

Hellraiser fans will get a kick out of this Ghostbusters episode:

http://www.veoh.com/browse/videos/c...3323888ZfJdweCZ

Jesus, the things kids are watching these days...

About Bad Lieutenant: it's a fairly typical film for Herzog, and I liked it in that capacity. But he made it without having seen or even read much about the original, which is why it's got almost nothing to do with the original.

Try watching it as a modern, urban Aguirre and you might get something out of it.

Agreed!!

I had a look down the list of Herzog's films in IMDB.com and am surprised to learn that I haven't seen any of them except for Bad Lieutenant!

Aguirre is next on my list.

I think my opinion of Bad Lieutenant was somewhat biased from the get go for two reasons, the first of which is my dislike of Nicholas Cage and the second is the fact that I love the Keitel film and don't believe it needs to be reimagined or otherwise improved. The fact that Herzog wasn't actually remaking it, as it turns out, softens my aversion to it. However, with or without Cage I still think it's a weak film. It's hard to explain but I felt a certain sense of "flatness" to it, which may or may not have been intentional (if it was, it went over my head). It's like I was acutely aware that I was watching a movie the entire time; I wasn't drawn in and the characters didn't get any real response from me. Eva Mendes as the prostitute got my attention, but that may have been for erectorial reasons.

You may have a similar issue with Aguirre, though its sheer awesomeness may also overcome it.

Herzog's style is very much about that flatness - he once had all but one of the cast members in a film perform under hypnosis to achieve it, which made for a very weird fucking film - and the contrast between the flat, documentarial bits and the obviously sculpted staging and imagery.

It's also about being batshit crazy and doing things like dragging a cruise ship over a mountain by hand in the middle of the Amazon because building a model and filming that would cheapen the act and deny you the 'ecstatic truth.'

That said, I think we can all agree that Nick Cage fucking sucks and should stop having a name bearing such similarity to the infinitely more awesome Nick Cave.

Holy shit. What movies did he do this in?

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You just brought back a flood of memories with that clip, nice going! Actually made me think about the older cartoon before they redid that remake. Man when it was worth getting up on a Saturday morning.

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It's amazing, despite the distance and cultural chasm between us, how similar our lives have been up to a point; the point at which our paths separated and I became the poster boy for postnatal abortion.

On the topic of Ghostbusters, Ghostbusters 3 is in the works and as excited as I've been about the idea since I was about 10 I'm a little apprehensive about the fact that it's going to be animated. I need to see Bill Murray and Dan Aykroyd's faces if I'm to have a respectiwank. If it's to be animated please Allah don't let Pixar get within 500 miles of it. Fucking cocksucking retarded cunt-swill. Irritating, clannish wank. Pixar is very much the Macromedia Flash of the movie world - film-makers, like web-designers, insist on using it because it's cool and almost expected by the client, even though it looks like shit and gives me cancer. The facial expressions and the hand gestures and pretty much every aspect of a character's physical movement in Pixar movies is so fucking gut-punchingly clichéd and face-meltingly stupid that I get night terrors and cum-burps.

Pixar should team up with Nicholas Cage to create a movie so bad that they could drop copies of it over the Middle East from cargo planes and just sit back and watch as Al Qaeda's membership turns into pillars of salt. I'm almost certain that the video from the movie The Ring is just a boardroom meeting at Paramount Pictures featuring Cage and Pixar's CEO smiling into each other's eyes, respecting each other's work and entering into a 40-year contract together.

Paddy, that was beautiful. You make me hate the Irish a little less.

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I've been pulling up some old Anime movies that I bought when I was younger and into Anime. Some of this shit has to go and is retarded and silly, but I forgot how good some of them actually are, like Akira, Perfect Blue, Grave Of The Fireflys, the Neon Genesis Evangelion series or the two Vampire Hunter D movies. I really like the sequel but how they wrote that fucking bitch with the giant pistols ruins the ending.

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Jesus, if I'M the one who makes the Irish seem less hateful we're pretty much screwed! But I think deep down we already knew that

From the films you've listed I've only seen Akira, and that was when I was probably too young to be watching it, so I don't remember a hell of a lot about it. I generally dislike Anime, or more to the point what Anime has become, but Akira is one of those films that seems to have a certain gravitas about it. It's like the quintessential film of its genre. Would you say that's accurate?

I don't have a problem with "serious" Anime, it's the epileptic wank which seems to tap directly into the bulbous, salty member of Japanese pop-culture that gives me brain fuckage. Lots of fingered V signs and massive solitary teardrops, and demons/monsters which look like a gay man's nightmare. I think Japanese culture is fascinating and beautiful, but the Hello Kitty microteenage neon-sign of death is all I see in modern Japan. It's like their marketing departments have all developed a severe schizophrenic, neurosis-ridden personality disorder and decided to just run with it.

COCA-COLA MAKES MY MOUTH HAPPY!

The film about dragging a liner over a mountain in the Amazon, during which time Herzog insisted on actually dragging a liner over a mountain, is Fitzcarraldo. That's also the film during which the Indian tribe he hired to play the Indian tribe used to drag the ship (who, of course, had to drag the ship) offered to kill the lead actor, Klaus Kinski, for Herzog, because the actor's outbursts were delaying shooting. Herzog declined, though during the filming of Aguirre, also with Kinski, he threatened to murder him himself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yITx7txr-7M

Holy fuck. To be fair, I think I'd have speared him if I was stuck listening to that shit for weeks on end.

I'll probably try and get my hands on a copy of Fitzcarraldo, if only for the spectacle of seeing a cruise ship up in the mountains. Reminds me of some hilarious archaeological discovery from a few years back which found an arc (Noah's, supposedly) on top of a mountain, thus proving that the arc existed and that flooding of biblical proportions, as reported in the bible, actually happened. Can't argue with that!

I hadn't considered Herzog a "serious" artist until now; I assumed, as is the tradition of idiots, that he was a conveyor belt operator, churning out tacky thrillers and adventure films. I thought that because I hadn't heard of him until rumours of a Bad Lieutenant remake were floating around which caused me to quickly glance at his IMDB page and not bother to investigate any of the listed films, and that entering into my consciousness via Nicholas Cage probably meant he was shit by default. I guess it was just laziness on my part.

I feel so much better about all of this now that we've talked it over.

Kinski is an will always be one of my favourite actors. But shit he was really mad and insane as fuuuuuuuck!
He also played always one of the bad guys in the old Edgar Wallace films like "The Indian Scarf" directed by Alfred Vohrer.

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It shames me to say that I've not had any experience of German film, at all. Recommendations are more than welcome. I already have Aguirre and Fitzcarraldo downloaded

There's one area of film-making that 99% of the population of the world seems to dislike a great deal, but which I think is one of the richest and most honest I've indulged my senses with. I'm talking, of course, about British film, including British made-for-TV film. I'm almost certainly NOT talking about Guy Ritchie-style wankster flicks. I'm talking Meantime, Nil By Mouth, Elephant (the inspiration for the shitty Gus van Sant high school shooter), Made in Britain, Kes, This is England, 24/7, Scum, The Firm, Raining Stones, 1984, Hidden Agenda, Cal, In the Name of the Father, The Boxer, Nothing Personal, Bloody Sunday, The General, Hunger...alright, the last few are technically Irish films haha, but they were joint efforts as far as I know, so they count! Gomers, if you're a fan of Michael Fassbender check out the last film I mentioned, "Hunger", directed by Steve McQueen (no, not that one ).

I seem to be drawn more towards gritty, dirty, bleak realism than anything else. It's not a matter of policy when I'm choosing what to watch next, it just happens to be what I feel most at home watching. Taxi Driver is probably the ultimate grit-fest, which is probably why I consider it to be one of my favourite films. The first time I saw it I was about 14 or so, and I didn't really take in or understand all of what was happening, but I got a real satisfaction in watching it nonetheless. After several more viewings and as I got a little older I started to appreciate it in new ways, and the satisfaction of watching it deepened. British film never fails to deliver a similar set of experiences. Kudos to you, Brits

Hunger was, with one small scene excluded, incredible.

Was it the 9 hour scene with the guy mopping up piss? That could have been halved and the point still could have been amply made.

No, I didn't mind that. Stuff like that, as well done as it was, works for me. I minded the scene with Sands convulsing on his bed, the camera moving wildly in and out, and several partial dissolves to ravens flying in the sky. That was just all sorts of lame, and not at all up to the level of craft McQueen otherwise exhibited.

The style of that first had me thinking of Spawn. Anyone else into that one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xyp4SdVUjuI
Oh man, if only my parents knew what was actually in those comic books their twelve year old little boy was bringing home.

S'funny, I've never been a big fan of gore, but I am a bit of a Hellraiser fan boy. There's just something about them. And Pinhead. Gotta love Pinhead.

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You know a knew Hellraiser was suppose to come out 2 years ago....sadly it has gone the route of Chinese Democracy. Will we wait for it, but yet it will still sadly be shit even though amble time and work was put into it.

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Yea, I heard something about that, but I never cared much about it. In all honesty, perhaps with the exception of the first one, the Hellraiser movies aren't the peak of movie making; they pretty much live on the back story and the extent to which they can present surreal hellish madness. And of course, I think Bradley does Pinhead pretty damn nasty. Something you can feel a sort of OK-man-if-you-say-so-I'm-just-gonna-move-three-steps-backwards-and-not-be-seen-again-until-the-curvature-of-the-universe-forces-me-back type of affinity for.

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I feel the same way about Hellraiser as you do, Amadeus. I have a sort of geeky love of them which gives them license to be shit and cheesy. Obviously I'm not talking about the first one, which is a genuinely good horror movie (as horror movies go). My main criticism of the original Hellraiser is that it had a really stupid, nonsensical Hollywood-esque ending tacked onto it, complete with pithy catchphrases like "go to Hell!" and "...oh SHIT!". In the novella [spoilers ahoy] when Kirsty is allowed to leave the room when the Cenobites are about to peel Frank like a big meaty banana, she leaves the house and that's pretty much the end of it. As she's walking away someone walks past and brushes against her, and she realises that the person has passed the box into her pocket. She glances at it, and sees Frank's face for a moment, and starts looking for her dad's face but she doesn't see her dad and concludes that he's in Heaven instead - the end. In the film, the Cenobites come after her and it's just stupid and really betrays the feeling and atmosphere the rest of the film had created up to that point. The Cenobites were in that moment converted into franchise-friendly Freddy Krugers.

I pretty much loathed all of the sequels after Hellbound. Hellraiser 3 was basically Die Hard with demons. The second film was kinda silly, and taken on its own it was a reasonably successful genre flick. Taken alongside Hellraiser it was a bit shit.

Pr0az, are you talking about a new Hellraiser sequel or the remake of the first film? If the remake is to go ahead I hope Clive Barker remains involved.

A remake of the first film, which is actually of all things a TRUE remake in the sense of it. In a summary i read either in a magazine or online it stated that the main point of the remake was to A. make money off the series again and B. to take those graphic momments and redo them with todays technology, with a few changes here and there but nothing major. Fuck you can tell when you're getting old when a film you watched as a child because your parents truly didnt give a shit or were just that cool is being remade....

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I agree, this is one remake that sounds like it might be worth looking at. Clive Barker has said he wants to see it happen because the tiny budget they had for the original (I think it was $1,000,000) meant he couldn't really create the film he wanted to create, and his involvement as executive producer is hopeful. He was to write the script at first, but I think they ditched his script and brought in a few other writers, all of whom have apparently bailed, as did the directors they had lined up. I'm just glad that the Saw IV & V directors didn't stick around - this film deserves a little more reverence than these cunts could provide.

I'm also pleased to hear that Barker has insisted on no CGI and that all of the effects are to be old-school practical effects, albeit done with a bigger budget and therefore more convincingly than the "chewed bubblegum" skin used in the original.

Still no word on who's gonna be in the fucker, though. It'd be a bit weird to have someone else play Pinhead, but it'd also be a bit weird to use the same actors in a remake 23 years later.

My folks wouldn't let me watch Hellraiser, but when I was about 7 or so an older kid from the street next to mine was left alone while his parents went shopping and invited a bunch of us in to watch it. I missed the first 15 minutes or so, and had to leave before the end, but I was obsessed with it from then on. Fucking terrified me! I think if I hadn't watched it until I was about 18 I probably wouldn't have liked it so much.

What makes a good actor/actress? When I watch the likes of Deniro, widley regarded as one of the best, I'm not sure what it is I like about him; all I know is that I can't stop watching. Is it a conceptual, abstract thing or are there criteria that you can identify and use as a measuring stick for any given actor?

If you watch really old films the acting style adopted by most on-screen performers is pretty much the same (fast monotone chatter, mostly), and it's usually overdone to the point of caricature. People of the day were regarded as great actors, but by today's standards they probably aren't. What are those standards?

Discuss!

Those are really interesting actually. When I'm less preoccupied with homework I will try to get to them.

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I heard they are remaking The Thing..I wish there there was some fucking law that states you can't remake a movie within a 50-year period.

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Well, to be fair The Thing we're familiar with is a remake itself (albeit a pretty loose one!) and if you've ever seen the original you'll surely agree that a remake in this case was well advised haha. I had a quick look on Wikipedia and I see that a prequel is to be filmed in Canada this year, and that the writer of this film has said that it's not a remake but a "companion" to the original, whatever that means. Regardless, I'm almost certainly not looking forward to it.

haha. Yes, remakes can be good..many classic movies are remakes..that's why the 50-year grace period should be put in place. DUHHHHHZ.

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BUT BUT BUT!! The original The Thing was made in 1951, and the remake in 1982, that's only 31 years and the remake was better!!1 I spit on your 50-year stipulation! If you had your way the 1982 version wouldn't have been made and Kurt Russell wouldn't have taken my man-wank virginity! 31 years, perhaps, but 50? FUUUUUUUUCK YOOOOOOOOU and the horse you rode in on, all oiled up and glistening like the pornstar "I'm here to fix your blockage with my massive tool" plumber that you are.

If you and I were stuck in that research facility I'd have surreptitiously drawn blood from your anus via torn linings using my specialised meat-flavoured blood extraction crank and set fire to it immediately, and I bet it would prove that you were an alien gene-thief and I'd be all like "...over my dead BODY!" and I'd blow us both up with bombs and whatnot to save earth and then the credits would roll to the sound of the Rocky theme tune.


And let that be a lesson to ya.

That 50-year period won't ensure quality in any way. Nor will it cut down on the number of remakes, as that will just force people to remake older movies, of which there are more than enough. So I don't really see any point to it.

Though it gets a tad ridiculous when you see this film, produced three years ago and in English, being remade already.

Recordbreaker!
The Spanish movie [REC] was remade into Quarantine, about ONE YEAR later.

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I think there have been a few Asian Extreme movies which were remade, without permission, in Bollywood about a year after their initial release. Old Boy is one - it was remade as Zinda:

Old Boy
Zinda

They claim that it wasn't a remake, but fuck me just read the synopses and look at the characters and, if you get a chance, watch both films. Hilarious stuff.

Will "Aww HELL Naw!" Smith and Steven "Walkie Talkies Make Movie Funtimes" Spielberg were planning an American remake but they've apparently backed out. Good.

Incidentally, Old Boy is a pretty solid movie. It's dripping with Manga-esque imagery/themes (which might have something to do with the fact that it's based on a Manga work by the same name), and that stuff usually bothers me to the point of distraction, but Old Boy is good enough that you can overlook that wanky shit if you are as irritated by it as I am. If nothing else it has a pretty hawt sex scene which provides two separate wankspirations in one

Old Boy is so fucked up. I would recommend that to anybody here.

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Old boy is so fucked up, I would recommend that to anybody here.

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All I've heard about Old Boy is that it's fucked up.

I saw Haneke's Das Weisse Band (The White Ribbon) a few days back which was very good. A pretty bleak movie that often times reminded me of Bergman. However, about halfway through, I started to really feel Haneke's breath on my neck as he kept incessantly whispering "Don't you see! There is no culprit to be found here because God is the culprit!".

While looking up the correct German spelling for The White Ribbon I came across an article stating that a great Swedish vampire film that came out a couple years back which I had totally forgotten about, called Låt Den Rätte Komma, won a Golden Globe apparently. Awesome news as it deserved it, along with the litany of other awards it has gotten.

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The point was not how quickly it was done, but rather the fact that it was a fairly widely distributed English language movie. [REC] was largely unknown in the US until Quarantine was released.

I disagree with your reading of The White Ribbon, Dyldo. There is no God in Haneke's world, so He's a very unlikely culprit. The culprit is the combination of authoritarianism and cruelty that would lead to Nazism, which is the heart of the film - there doesn't have to be a specific agent. It's a fairy tale about the origins of fascism, not a diatribe against God, and while the author's presence is very much there (it's a Haneke film, after all), it's less didactic and more inquisitive.

And yes, I do think Das Weisse Band was probably the best film of the year, and definitely the best film of Haneke's career.

Yeah, I see your point, especially considering what I have read about him today (and taking into consideration having not seen any of his other films) and then placing religion in with the rest of the authoritarianism makes sense. However, I still feel that there was something like I mentioned, but perhaps maybe more along the lines of a god's indifferent universe that is the reality of the matter and that, regardless of where we point the finger or if a culprit is ever caught, it makes no difference for the time being or in future instances. OR SOMETHING. Again, I have little knowledge of Haneke's normal world and his MO.

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The Machinist. I enjoyed it a lot.

Good suspense. Good resolution.

Boom. Bam. Pow.

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I quite liked this film, despite my severe dislike of Christian Bale and the tawdry done-to-death twist at the end. It was enjoyable enough, but I've had my fill of these kinds of endings (possible spoilers ahead):

* The main character is schizophrenic and has actually been tormenting himself via one of his other personality fragments all along
* It was all a dream
* It was all a dream in the mind of a coma victim or someone's mid-dying brain-fuckage
* The main character is actually dead
* Someone's sworn enemy turns out to be his father, brother or whatever the fuck

Basically, I hate twists, even the twists which are widely considered to be good ones, like the one in The Usual Suspects. I don't give a rat's cunt, and if the entire film is building towards a twist which serves as the payoff I feel like I've been sucked off for an hour and a half, but just as I launch a thick stream of saltshake into the roof of her mouth she pulls up her skirt and shows me her massive, pendulous cock. Hmmm, that'd make a good movie! Oh yeah, The Crying Game...what a piece of shit that was.

Bale said working on the film helped him with his depression (an ailment which doesn't soften my dislike of him despite being a sufferer myself) and when I watched it I felt the opposite haha. His weight loss was pretty incredible, though. Speaking of which:

I watched Hunger again last night, and I've found that this is a film I could watch endlessly, and if I hadn't had 3 or 4 standup comedy shows to watch (see: Doug Stanhope) I probably would have put it on again. I've ordered the Criterion edition on Blu-ray which contains some tasteful extras as opposed to the mind-numbing inanity usually piped onto DVDs and Blu-rays these days. Still no sign of a general release Blu-ray though, so I have to make do with the Region A Criterion one for now. My PC will play it fine (thanks, AnyDVD!) but the PS3 in the living room won't be able to until there's some sort of region hack released, which might happen pretty soon because George Hotz cracked the allegedly uncrackable system last month, which opens the door to all sorts of possibilities, switching off region checks being one of them.

This entire forum needs some estrogen up in hurr so I figured I'd ask what everyone thinks about the new Alice in Wonderland movie that's coming out ^_^

I've been seeing the posters for it around NYC and the art direction looks sick. I've loved all of Tim Burton's live action movies... most people hear Tim Burton and think of The Nightmare Before Christmas, Corpse Bride, etc.. blech. But don't forget he also did Edward Scissorhands, Beetlejuice, Mars Attacks AND Batman Returns.

I liked Tim Burton's Charlie and the Chocolate factory and that's about it, for some odd reason. Can't agree more on how his animated films are for fat mall goths. There is about two million Alice remakes so I'm not really too concerned about it

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I'm going to definitely go see Alice In Wonderland, because it looks interesting and my friend did about 35% of the music for the film. I've already heard him play one of the themes (which doesn't appear in the trailers) on piano so I got a sneak peek.

Looks like it's gonna be another pretty cool art design from Tim Burton. And yea Dame, lots of people forget all the other shit he's done. However, some people also forget which films he has actually written. He's constantly switching off between director/writer. If he's WRITTEN the film but hasn't DIRECTED it, then its "from the creative mind of Tim Burton", and if its the other way around then its "from director Tim Burton" without mention of the writer haha.

But still, MUCH love for Tim. He's awesome. But I also have to say that because my parents were friends with him... so if he's reading this post... I LOVE YOU SORRY.

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Paddy, I was just having an argument with my father about that same subject and The Usual Suspects, one of his all time favorite movies, a couple nights ago. I'm not impressed when a movie lies to me as it isn't very hard to do and the whole "OH HE GOT ME!" factor means shit.

I haven't liked anything Burton's done for the last... 7-10 years, sadly, and Alice in Wonderland looks like Michael Alig's day-to-day reality after a number of E induced seizures.. but I think I'm just bitter from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, which he totally butchered. I do miss the old Burton days though.. and I think my favorite is Pee-wee's Big Adventure. Fuck what you say!

And no shit, Ian? You know the dude that did some of the music? First off, why didn't Danny Elfman do it all like usual and how the fuck did he get that gig? And how rich is he now? And FUCK HIM!

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Dude... PeeWee was fucking awesome! I'm with you on that one.

And yea, the dude is making quite some income now. And Danny has always had Assistant Composers. Every film composer has them, but they just don't get credit. However, they do get royalties and a pay check! All that matters, right?

Oh and The Brave Little Toaster is playing tonight, Dyldo... make a trip from OC to CSUN! Starts at 7:00. There's an event I posted on facebook, but I don't have you added. I don't know if you have one. You probably aren't going to make a trip down here just to watch that, though.

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Well fuck, your friend is very lucky. Right now I'm working with a production company that was once busy with buisness but is now suffering with the economy so I haven't had much work in that department lately. I had an interview about a monthis back with some bigwig company that has done some bigger films but when I got there a.) The manager had forgotten and wasn't there, and b.) never called be back

Oh man, I haven't seen or even thought about that movie for a long time. I used to LOOOVVEEE that movie with every atom in my little body. Seeing as its 6:00pm right now I think its safe to say I won't be joining you.. maybe next time. If you want, a theater about 20ish minutes away from me is playing Evil Dead (I believe) next week if you wanted to make that trip. And no, I don't have a facebook.

Maynard Keenan has just released his documentary about his vineyard in Arizona and his attempt to put a pretty "hostile territory" (for wine) on the map. The trailer looks really good and Bob Odenkirk in the beginning cracks me up: http://www.bloodintowine.com/. And Mila Jovovich is in it too... DROOL. I'm going to go try and catch it in L.A. this weekend while its here.

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Edward Scissorhands and Beetlejuice (and I suppose, to a lesser extent, the much maligned Mars Attacks!) were the only Burton films I liked. His whole shtick irritates me, as do the Goth-minded twerps who think watching him gives them some sort of street cred amongst their pasty comrades. I saw a fair chunk of Willy Wonka while my cousin was watching it (in his defence, he's autistic, and in my defence I was taking care of him that day) and I thought it was fucking horrid. I found Depp's performance irritating, and the film felt almost cheap and gaudy and as hollow as a chicken McNugget. The original was already dark enough, plus it also wasn't a bucket of shite.

Eddie "Finger Me" Scissorhands was a stable of my childhood movie watching, as was Beetlejuice. I don't think I even watched The Nightmare Before Christmas, because even as a kid I had an innate sense of self-respect.

No offence to Burton fans of any stripe (except the Goth ones - FUCK YOU)

haha awesome. I'll see if my roommates are interested in making a little journey over there. Then I'll give you a signed BLT cell in exchange for your Icelandic friend's phone number.

And since we're speaking about Tim Burton, has anybody seen his stuff before any of his big films? Films like Luau or Doctor Of Doom? It's stuff that my dad and Tim and other guys (who are now really big, like Brad Bird [Incredibles]) worked on way before anything they're famous for now. We still have VHS copies of them haha. If you want an even closer glimpse of how "out there" Tim Burton really is as a person, those have him acting in them. Should be able to find some stuff on youtube.

haha here we go, I found it (in parts): Doctor Of Doom

That's the one my dad did the cinematography/camera-man on. He also showed up at the very end, and also did one of the characters voices.

and here's Luau: Luau

In Luau he co-directed and co-wrote with Tim. Also played one of the small characters in the second half (striped shirt, orange skirt/black and white tv guy [the lady is my mom, lol]). Tim is the weird pie-holding guy and the talking head.

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The Usual Suspects is something of a unique case among twist ending movies in that it doesn't play fair - all of the clues that indicate that he's lying are revealed after you already know he's lying. And, of course, all of a sudden, everything he's told you has become suspect - only a very small percentage of the story that makes up the entire narrative of the film is verifiable in any way, meaning that there's no reason to believe anything you're shown. Which makes it pretty easy on the filmmakers. It's much harder to have a twist ending that's actually an unexpected but inevitable turn of events. But what The Usual Suspects does is very cheap, and very easy, if also effective.

I like Tim Burton alright.

Yea actually, all the twist movies are starting to get predictable. Even though I enjoyed The Machinist, I think it should have been called "12 Fight Club Monkeys"

That's why good detective movies work out well, because you KNOW that there is information that you don't know. It's not just all in somebody's head. That's why I loved Brick and The Departed so much.

The first few times I saw Brick it REALLY blew my mind. I love movies that are hard to follow in a reasonable fashion. I really don't mind watching really good brain-grinding movies more than once. Most really good movies are a totally different experience the second time around, because you pick up on information that you missed when you didn't know about certain events that scenes were leading up to.

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I watched Starship Troopers and it was a lot better than I expected. It was a little bit cheesy but it was still interesting as fuck to me. I dunno, im kinda a dumbass though

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Joe, have you seen the original Asian version of The Departed? It's called Infernal Affairs and as much as I love Scorsese I felt the original was better. Plus I hate Leonardo Decapitated, and not just because he's a cunt who thinks he's prettier than me, but because I think he's a pretty average actor. It's beyond me why Scorsese uses him so much. I quite liked him in This Boy's Life, though. Maybe it was because Robert Deniro was kicking the shit out him throughout, which is almost too perfect a metaphor.

At the end of Fight Club (spoilers ahoy) when Ed Norton shoots himself in the cheek, how/why does that kill Tyler Durden?

Starship Troopers was a pretty good movie. Although it was criticised for not remaining true to the book it still retained some of its satirical punch, I felt. I think the cheesiness was part of the satire, too. At least I hope it was haha.

In short, the movie is a piece of miserably failed crap compared to the book, coming short at so many points I'd probably lag the server with the massive post required to properly account for them all. Just another case in point showing that some literature simply isn't meant for making movies. In short, they've taken a few names, the title and made something half assed that might be worthwhile for a ninety minute doze, if it weren't for the fact that every single minute just gives you another reason for wishing it had never been made. The one possibly good thing to come out of it is that perhaps a few more people will get to read the book.
Breathe slowly. Clear skies. Breathe.

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There is a word for when a patient confronts his alter ego(s) and for the life of me I can't remember it. I believe that the shooting of himself was symbolic for him killing off Tyler and merging back with him. The gun had always been in Ed's hands and he was finally able to confront his other personality (god, that term is on the tip of my tongue! Where's my copy of Sibil?!). Ed shooting himself in the cheek was a botched suicide attempt that resulted in the death of Tyler because Ed was able to use the gun and see that he was able to take back control.

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Ahhhhhhhhhh! Makes a hell of a lot more sense now.

I think the term is "frunkabobblings".

I never even knew it was a book. That probably just pisses you off even more.

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Well, the thing about Starship Troopers the book, as opposed to the film, is that it's not intended as a satire; it's an actual realization of Heinlein's beliefs in the form of a kickass sci-fi story. In adapting it to a film, somebody decided that the book was fascistic (which is not a huge leap from a book in which one of the main tenets is that military service=citizenship, though the Aryan aspects are way off), and turned it into a satire of fascism, in which humanity was a rabidly warmongering race going out of its way to attack otherwise peaceful aliens.

So, obviously, if you actually liked the novel it's gonna be hard to like the film. It worked for me, but only if I think of it as something entirely different than the novel. Which is hard when the names are all the same.