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Old 2005-12-31, 18:31
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I'm sure you guys can help me out with this

Okay, so I'm pretty new to playing guitar and I have a question about amps/set ups. I have a Stageworks SW1000 power amp(2 channels,stereo and bridged), a 6 channel mixer, and two 15in PA cabs that I used to use for vocals, but now I play through it in my room.
So, here's the question. I've heard that some people run power amps into guitar cabs and run some kind of signal modifier for guitar tone. Would I be better off using my power amp and buying a 4x12 and whatever module I need or should I get a half stack. I'm on a tight budget, as well.
Will my power amp work? What else do I need to buy?
 
Old 2005-12-31, 18:51
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Your poweramp will definitely work out fine for guitar ... I say buy a preamp ( that's the 'module' you're speaking of ), and use it with your poweramp through a 4x12.
 
Old 2005-12-31, 19:02
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any recomendations for a preamp?
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Old 2005-12-31, 20:24
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On a budget?

Rocktron Pro GAPs are supposed to be pretty good
Peavey Rockmaster = cheap and versatile


Behringer V-AMP PRO would be what I recommend for a "cheap" preamp.

If you can afford some more, try snagging an Marshall JMP-1 on ebay, or an ENGL 530 (what I use, check the clip a few threads down) on www.rocksolidamps.com.

As for a cab, you're gonna have to use a guitar cab unless you want some bees-in-a-tin-can tone. (however, the 530 DOES have a switch that lets you practice through hi-fi PA cabs, without the need for a poweramp...it's only for practice though, and is very quiet)
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Old 2005-12-31, 20:26
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For a 'cheap' preamp ... I got my PODXT used for 209$.
 
Old 2006-01-01, 18:02
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So all I would need to do would be to run my power amp and guitar into the preamp, then my cabinet out of the preamp?
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Old 2006-01-01, 18:11
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No like this Guitar -> Preamp -> Poweramp -> Cabinet
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Old 2006-01-01, 18:20
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Sweet. I've found a Behringer V-AMP PRO for pretty cheap, and I know a guy with a ampeg 4x12 cab with celestations(SP?) for pretty cheap, so I think I'll scrounge my cash and do it.

PS, I use a distortion pedal now, would I be able to run it still with the preamp? Sorry if i ask dumb questions, I'm a nOOb to the guitar game.
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Old 2006-01-01, 18:47
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brand new engl 530 preamp for under $500 is pretty tuff to beat.
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Old 2006-01-01, 19:09
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as opposed to the V Amp pro for $150 and the ampeg cab for $125?
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Old 2006-01-01, 19:12
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as opposed to the V Amp pro for $150 and the ampeg cab for $125?

v amp pro... it's a toy compared to the engl 530. the ampeg cab for $125 sounds like it might be ok.
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Old 2006-01-01, 19:19
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Another stupid question on my part, but will the V AMP give me a shitty tone or something?
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Old 2006-01-01, 19:49
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Behringer aren't directly known for their guitar products!
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Old 2006-01-01, 19:58
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Sweet. I've found a Behringer V-AMP PRO for pretty cheap, and I know a guy with a ampeg 4x12 cab with celestations(SP?) for pretty cheap, so I think I'll scrounge my cash and do it.

PS, I use a distortion pedal now, would I be able to run it still with the preamp? Sorry if i ask dumb questions, I'm a nOOb to the guitar game.


Well, offcoarse you can play your pedal with a pre-amp, but it kinda deafeats the purpose of having one
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Old 2006-01-01, 20:29
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Yeah, told you I had dumb questions.

So for the $500 dollar range, should I buy a preamp and cabinet and use my power amp(I'm assuming I can hook a cab up to it) or should I get something like this?
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Another stupid question on my part, but will the V AMP give me a shitty tone or something?

you may be able to get some usable tones out of it. but for a serious guitar rig.... i say hell no.
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Old 2006-01-02, 04:47
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Here's another question.
Peavey MS412 slant cab with celestations $175

Good deal or no?
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Old 2006-01-02, 04:53
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If you already have a fuckin PA, heres an idea....buy a small amp (one that sounds fuckin nice....IT DOES NOT NEED ALOT OF VOLUME), buy a Shure SM57, buy a mic cord, and throw in maybe an eq, and there you have it, an assload of sound for a nice price, and have you been plugging directly into the mixer (no DI box or anything) because if you have you may have very well destroyed some very needed components.
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Old 2006-01-02, 17:50
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Here's another question.
Peavey MS412 slant cab with celestations $175

Good deal or no?

what kind of celestions?

the ms412 cabs are okay, but if they have shitty celestion rocket 50s. nope.
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Old 2006-01-03, 06:03
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Or 'celestion designed'.

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