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Old 2005-12-17, 20:14
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Oriental guitar...

I'm looking for any information on 'oriental' (japanese/chines etc) material for geetar. Have ran a search but there isn't much beyond a couple of questions and maybe the odd scale.

Can anyone tell me or link to some of the basics? I have a lot fo the scales down and more 'importantly' know which scales to use on guitar pro's scale tool.

Know of any bands/'compositions' to listen to to get inspiration?

Also, can anyone suggest how to get a decent clean tone? Such as using effects to get a typical sounding tone, on GP it's called a 'koto'. Sort of like a plinky guitar.I have a 5150mk2 and it sounds shat. Have access to effects on an AX1500 model or something


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Old 2005-12-17, 20:21
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It doesn't alter the sound that much, but to make it more "plinky" pick a bit nearer to the bridge.

As for pieces to get inspiration from, I know Nile and Jason Becker have used Hirajoshi and such, but it's not that prevailent. Outside of rock, I can suggest some Anime soundtracks such as Haibane Renmei and Naruto, very Oriental in places but it's not always guitar.
hope some of this helps
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Old 2005-12-17, 20:28
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i find trills help alot, also you should have these runs here and there

1-2-5

1-4-5

obviously you should remember those are movable

sorry i couldnt help more
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Old 2005-12-18, 17:30
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hey, i have a slammer centaura guitar and the flyd rose wont go down far enough and wont go back at all dose any one know y this might be happening?
 
Old 2005-12-18, 18:21
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yea, i've heard one of those, and seen a person play it. they used like a block of wood. i say try a coin of a peice of wood near the bridge. the coin should be very clicky, and i haven't tryed wood. but i've been trying to figure those things out too.
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ibut i wouldnt get any help at a slipknot board, theyre struggling with palm muting!
 
Old 2005-12-18, 18:47
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phyrgian also gets quite an oriental sound
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Old 2005-12-18, 20:29
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phyrgian also gets quite an oriental sound

hmm... u sure, in which scale form? i found that some times penitonics have an oriental sound.
ohh hey, my mole day went smoothly, i made mine with staples. i stapled the eyelides and had black fabric, and yellow flippy hair. i even put a tie on it. i dubbed it e-mole
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Old 2005-12-18, 21:17
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nicely done! Well, E phyrgian dominant sounds pretty egyptian. Wait... DOH!

well, i sort of mixed up oriental with egyptian. anyways, lemme see if i can dig up a proper scale for you then

13-15-17
13-15
10-12-14
10-12
8-10-12
8-10

there we are!

The scale got fucked up in the post somehow, but play them like a run, the bottom line being the low e
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i have to make this gay ass puppet, for mole day or some shit.
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Old 2005-12-19, 02:33
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Warning this band is NOT metal. but listen to psycho le cemu they have a lot of koto and koto-ish guitar.
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Old 2005-12-21, 00:04
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try this lick for an asian sound. thats the mini scale i mixed c maj penitonic with a blues penitonic. its a movable scale patern. enjoy

-----------------------------------10-12---
-----------------------------10-13----
-----------------------9-12------
---------------10-12--------------
---------10-12---------------------
-8-10-12----------------------------
and if u want to increase the scale by one note go up to one tritone. and u will hear the asian melody sing, just make sure u do a slide up to 15 from 12
i suggest u check out east west quantum leap rare insturments.
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Old 2005-12-21, 23:59
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i like messing with zhong-hu that insturments the shit. if u dont know what that insturment sounds like, it sounds like a violin just its more like somone singing/crying. its has a very emotional sound to it, which is very rare, but priceless
http://www.emusic.com/album/10874/10874153.html
do a preview for Yang Guan
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Old 2005-12-22, 07:57
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Check out Marty Friedman's solo work and also soundtracks from a lot of old Nintendo games.
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Old 2005-12-22, 09:41
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Check out Marty Friedman's solo work and also soundtracks from a lot of old Nintendo games.

Old games had the best music.
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Old 2005-12-22, 10:03
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Old 2005-12-23, 22:20
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Tapping octaves simulates some kind of ethnical instrument from the orient...

Something like this:

E||------------------------------------------|------||
B||------------------------------------------|------||
G||--------------------------------T---T-----|------||
D||------------------T----T----T--17-5-19-7--|------||
A||--T-----T----T---17-5-19-7-20-8-----------|------||
E||--17-5-19-7-20-8--------------------------|------||


The taps are grace notes, about the value of 16th or 32nd notes...

hope that helps
 
Old 2005-12-24, 01:48
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Metal bands....

Orphaned Land (Israel) progressive death
Melechesh (Israel) Mesopotamian metal!
Nile (U.S.) Technical death metal
Sabbat (Japan) Old school black/thrash w/ ton's of solo's
Sigh (Japan) experimental metal.....old material was more black metal
Mezarkabul/Pentagram (Turkey) Traditional/power metal
Salem (Israel) Death metal

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