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Old 2005-11-29, 05:45
seraphic
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Raw Black Metal recording

This is going to sound stupid to people who don't like raw black metal (and maybe some doom fans), but what do you do to get that really warm/raw sound (Emperor have it in a few albums - I'm thinking more 'In the nightside...' than 'Wrath...', as do Immortal) in the recording? I tried using a tape player, and that was TOO raw (still nothing like a lot of that NS stuff, but that's also too raw for my tastes), and if I just do it the way I record Death Metal it's too crisp.

I have access to a Apple G5 with Pro-tools, Digi002 and Spirit-Mixer set up - and for mic's;
Numerous SM57s and 58s, Rode NT5's, Rode NTK's, a nice big kick mic (forgotten what sort it is) aswell as triggers, and then a few older mic's I've also forgotten (that probably arn't worth mentioning), and finally a DI box.

Really all I'm after is that lovely guitar tone, but I just can't get it.

Any tips?
 
Old 2005-11-29, 11:30
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weeeell.. what gear is being played trough? wich amps and cabs for base or guitar?
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Old 2005-12-01, 06:49
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Bass amp is a fender, not sure of the type. Guitar is a Marshall DSL2000 tube amp half stack.
 
Old 2005-12-01, 11:02
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Erik Rutan -who runs a recording studio- claims that using the somewhat outdated technology of 4" tapes(I think this is what it's called) to lay down the tracks before mixing gives it the slightly dirty vibe, like the production in a lot of old records from the 80's.

If you're micing amps, the room where you're playing could also make a significant difference in the ambient.

Play in the middle of the nearest forest or some cold grim basement and record it.

The production Metallica had on "Master of Puppets" or Megadeth's "Rust in Peace", as well as MA's "Altars of Madness"... I love that shit. But look at recent Nile, world class production for one of the most brutal bands ever, and yet it only helps the music sound better. The new Nile would very different with less production quality, as you would lose many intricacies that make up the sound on AOTW. Good production -in the hands of someone who knows what he's doing- is never a bad idea. Call Scott Burns now.
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Old 2005-12-03, 00:10
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If I grabbed the DAT machine and a power generator I guess I could do it in a forest...

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