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Old 2005-11-20, 07:08
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JC-120 as a cab for JCM2000?

How do you think they'll convey? I need to move my TSL100 a long distance, and since I've been wanting a JC-120 for quite a while and also bringing the 1960 is out of the question this idea occured to me.
 
Old 2005-11-20, 12:16
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why is bringing the 1960 out of the question
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Old 2005-11-20, 18:11
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Because I have to move it for over 600 kilometers initially, and then regularly carry the amp and cab combo back and forth between various locations in town in a small car (in which the 1960 alone couldn't fit).
 
Old 2005-11-20, 19:25
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you could make it work, but you'd probably want a speaker change... and you wouldnt be able to use he tsl head and the head part of the jc120 combo at the same time.

you'd probably be better off grabbing a 2x12 cab or two.
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Old 2005-11-20, 20:03
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Xdx, how about this: A DS-1 or an Engl 530 into the JC?

Does the Engl have a bypass switch?
 
Old 2005-11-20, 20:55
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Xdx, how about this: A DS-1 or an Engl 530 into the JC?

Does the Engl have a bypass switch?

what you would want to do is plug the 530 into the fx return on the jc 120... and then run an a/b or a/b/y splitter box... so your signal would look like:

guitar--> a/b box--->
A side---> jc-120 input
B side---> engl 530---> jc120's fx loop return

you wont have to worry about bypassing the 530 because you'll be running it as it's own preamp not a pedal into the jc120's preamp.

though the jc120 speakers might not sound to hot with the engl.
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Old 2005-11-21, 16:51
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How about the DS-1 scenario? Or even a DS-2? Note that DS-2 + JC120 is the most convenient way for me because of the extremely limited gear availability where I live (those two are probably available).
 
Old 2005-11-21, 18:15
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the ds-1 or ds-2 scenario would just be:

guitar--->ds(1/2)--->jc120 input

you step on the pedal for your distortion, and you step on it again for clean.

much more simple, and cheaper too... though the sound probably wont be as good.
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Old 2005-11-21, 19:14
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the ds-1 or ds-2 scenario would just be:

guitar--->ds(1/2)--->jc120 input

you step on the pedal for your distortion, and you step on it again for clean.

much more simple, and cheaper too... though the sound probably wont be as good.



I was actually asking about the sound. I really don't need it to be anything fancy, just a decent sounding distortion (as JC-120 already covers the cleans) mainly for rehearsing with a pianist, possibly other instruments as well, and practicing at home. Should there ever be more serious circumstances such as a gig, I'll try to bring the Marshall rig.

With all that said, do you think the DS-2 will cover the distortion part for me? I play a wide range, from Camel to Dead Can Dance to Black Metal. I've also heard a lot about DS-1 being better than the 2 but I doubt I could find one here.
 
Old 2005-11-22, 05:08
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I was actually asking about the sound. I really don't need it to be anything fancy, just a decent sounding distortion (as JC-120 already covers the cleans) mainly for rehearsing with a pianist, possibly other instruments as well, and practicing at home. Should there ever be more serious circumstances such as a gig, I'll try to bring the Marshall rig.

With all that said, do you think the DS-2 will cover the distortion part for me? I play a wide range, from Camel to Dead Can Dance to Black Metal. I've also heard a lot about DS-1 being better than the 2 but I doubt I could find one here.

try and play a ds-1 and a ds-2... see what you like better.
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Old 2005-11-22, 05:32
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It's too complicated to explain, just please assume that there's no possibility of me doing this prior to buying the stuff (and even for a few days after).

Any comments on my last past?
 
Old 2005-11-22, 23:12
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It's too complicated to explain, just please assume that there's no possibility of me doing this prior to buying the stuff (and even for a few days after).

Any comments on my last past?

do what you have to do, the ds-1 will get you a decent sounds with a fair amount of ain on tap. just don't expect it to sound as good as your marshall.
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Old 2005-11-22, 23:16
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you'd probably be better off grabbing a 2x12 cab or two.


What about this idea?
 
Old 2005-11-22, 23:23
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do what you have to do, the ds-1 will get you a decent sounds with a fair amount of ain on tap. just don't expect it to sound as good as your marshall.



Thanks for all the info, but the situation turned out to be worse than I imagined. There's no JC-120 available at the moment, and most likely won't be anytime soon. Only crappy JC-90's. I'm probably going to settle for a Cube 30, as it seems to be the only choice left to me along with the Vox AD series (I couldn't find a half-decent 2x12 to accompany my tube head, nor a JC-120, not even a small tube combo, only AVT's and MG's and a couple of Line6 crap all over the place... oh fuck it).

I hope I won't regret the purchase. Then again, there's almost no choice left to me.
 
Old 2005-11-23, 07:17
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Where are you looking,surely there are plenty of shops in between your location and destination.
 
Old 2005-11-23, 09:20
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Don't even get me started on where I live.

I'm still not sure whether to get a DS-1 as well or the Cube will perform fine by itself.
 
Old 2005-11-24, 01:12
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Get a bigger car If you go for a cube,i suggest getting a ds-1 or similar also.
 
Old 2005-11-24, 15:50
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Got both the Cube and the DS-1. The Cube is quite satisfying, except for the extremely annoying noise when using the Acoustic model.

DS-1 wasn't quite what I expected, it wasn't any better than the MT-2 which many people seem to believe. In fact, I could find more uses for an MT-2 than a DS-1. Though it acts surprisingly well as a boost.
 
Old 2005-11-25, 03:59
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Though it acts surprisingly well as a boost.

Thats what most would use it for.
 
Old 2005-11-25, 15:46
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Thats what most would use it for.


I was under the impression that it's the SD-1 that's used mainly as a boost (I've heard Nile uses DS-1 as a boost, and that's about it).

I was going to get a boost pedal for my Marshall anyway. Do you think I should return the DS-1 and get the SD-1, or just keep the DS-1 and use it for the purpose, or maybe have them both?
 
Old 2005-11-25, 20:23
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I was under the impression that it's the SD-1 that's used mainly as a boost (I've heard Nile uses DS-1 as a boost, and that's about it).

I was going to get a boost pedal for my Marshall anyway. Do you think I should return the DS-1 and get the SD-1, or just keep the DS-1 and use it for the purpose, or maybe have them both?

my friend uses an sd-1 with his dsl50 and it sounds pretty sweet.
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Old 2005-11-28, 18:56
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my friend uses an sd-1 with his dsl50 and it sounds pretty sweet.


So what do you sugges? Return the DS-1 and get the SD-1 or keep them both?
 
Old 2005-11-28, 20:44
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So what do you sugges? Return the DS-1 and get the SD-1 or keep them both?

i say go for the sd-1, use it as a boost with your jcm... i think the cube has some pretty good onboard distortions...but whatever sounds best to you. don't fix it if it aint broke.
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