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strat routed for a foyd orig.....
does it have to be routed for one to fit?
only ive seen a few guitars where the body dosent appear to be routed at all
and they still have a floyd on.i dont want a recessed routing cuz i hardly ever use the trem bar backwards if that makes sense 
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Id say with almost 100% confidence yes.
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if you dont want it recessed then there is No routing at all. just get a 29/64th drill bit (atleast thats what i used to accomadate the bushings I had.) and drill 2 holes for the bushing/posts. drop that floyd in there, connect the springs and string it up. pretty easy.
if you want it recessed, then well, thats A lot harder. Obviously you'll have to route out and be careful to not fuck up the finish and to do a clean job.
If you're not going to use the trem bar backwards then totally go the easy way.
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2005-11-07, 23:10
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if you dont want it recessed then there is No routing at all. just get a 29/64th drill bit (atleast thats what i used to accomadate the bushings I had.) and drill 2 holes for the bushing/posts. drop that floyd in there, connect the springs and string it up. pretty easy.
if you want it recessed, then well, thats A lot harder. Obviously you'll have to route out and be careful to not fuck up the finish and to do a clean job.
If you're not going to use the trem bar backwards then totally go the easy way.
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 dude youve made my day seriously 
i phoned up a guitar shop + luthier etc,,,and he said he route it for me for £45
and i said i'll give it a think and see if it actually needs to be routed
1st  what about the pick guard will that need to be bigger 
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2005-11-07, 23:11
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I'm not sure if you will have to do something with the pickguard. when I did this, i took half of it off to EVH-ize it. just put the floyd up to where it would be and see if it goes over the pickguard at all. if it does, then you may need to trim the pickguard accordingly.
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oh yeah, you'll also want a locking nut if you havent thought of that already. thats a little harder to do, but do able.
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2005-11-07, 23:50
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I'm not sure if you will have to do something with the pickguard. when I did this, i took half of it off to EVH-ize it. just put the floyd up to where it would be and see if it goes over the pickguard at all. if it does, then you may need to trim the pickguard accordingly.
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oh yeah, you'll also want a locking nut if you havent thought of that already. thats a little harder to do, but do able.
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do i have to have the 2 screws from the back of the neck or is there one where you can do it from the top? 
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no you dont have to drill through the neck. thats really a stupid way of putting the nut on there.
basically, you take the old nut out, cleanly dremel out the wood of the fretboard behind the nut and screw the nut in.
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no you dont have to drill through the neck. thats really a stupid way of putting the nut on there.
basically, you take the old nut out, cleanly dremel out the wood of the fretboard behind the nut and screw the nut in.
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the retainer bar is probably the easiset thing to screw in right? 
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want me to post a pic of it dude
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2005-11-08, 20:35
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There is no way you are going to fit a floyd on that strat withought doing some serious irreversable work on the guitar. Is it a real USA made strat? cause if it is and you dont like the work you have done or you stuff it up. You have fucked up an ace guitar.
First thing first. I notice that the bridge cavity is for a Fender Synchronised Tremolo, This makes things harder. if the original bridge was a fender two point it would be easier but only slightly.
Look dude. if you're really bent on having a floyd. i say buy another Guitar. Maybe get an Ibanez and replace the LO TRS bridge with the original floyd.
PLus this way. you can keep the Inbanez in your favourite tuning and if you ever need to use a different tuning. Use the fender.
You do know that fenders make strats with floyd roses in them by default right? http://www.fender.com/products/sear...rtno=1134700506 |
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There is no way you are going to fit a floyd on that strat withought doing some serious irreversable work on the guitar. Is it a real USA made strat? cause if it is and you dont like the work you have done or you stuff it up. You have fucked up an ace guitar.
First thing first. I notice that the bridge cavity is for a Fender Synchronised Tremolo, This makes things harder. if the original bridge was a fender two point it would be easier but only slightly.
Look dude. if you're really bent on having a floyd. i say buy another Guitar. Maybe get an Ibanez and replace the LO TRS bridge with the original floyd.
PLus this way. you can keep the Inbanez in your favourite tuning and if you ever need to use a different tuning. Use the fender.
You do know that fenders make strats with floyd roses in them by default right? http://www.fender.com/products/sear...rtno=1134700506 |
dude i didnt go to all this trouble to get a different guitar
im trying to modify my strat i dont want a ibanez or any other guitar
all i wanna know is will a floyd fit it
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dude i didnt go to all this trouble to get a different guitar
im trying to modify my strat i dont want a ibanez or any other guitar
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There is no way you are going to fit a floyd on that strat withought doing some serious irreversable work on the guitar. Is it a real USA made strat? cause if it is and you dont like the work you have done or you stuff it up. You have fucked up an ace guitar.
First thing first. I notice that the bridge cavity is for a Fender Synchronised Tremolo, This makes things harder. if the original bridge was a fender two point it would be easier but only slightly.
Look dude. if you're really bent on having a floyd. i say buy another Guitar. Maybe get an Ibanez and replace the LO TRS bridge with the original floyd.
PLus this way. you can keep the Inbanez in your favourite tuning and if you ever need to use a different tuning. Use the fender.
You do know that fenders make strats with floyd roses in them by default right? http://www.fender.com/products/sear...rtno=1134700506 |
He's not recessing it so all's he has to do to fit the floyd in there is drill two 29/64th holes for the posts and drop it in there.
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He's not recessing it so all's he has to do to fit the floyd in there is drill two 29/64th holes for the posts and drop it in there.
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he obviously didnt read your post
how about springs?how many should i install 3 or 4
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depends on the gauge and tuning you're gonna be using. 3 should do it though.
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well. I have my floyd in drop a and it needs 3 springs. so. I don't what tuning you'll be in.
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depends on the gauge and tuning you're gonna be using. 3 should do it though.
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46-10 gauge
id only use standard,drop d and half a step
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well. I have my floyd in drop a and it needs 3 springs. so. I don't what tuning you'll be in.
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3 it is then..
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If you only use three springs but its still not enough tension you can allways angle your springs to compensate. theres rarelly need for four springs
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thanks for the info
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If you only use three springs but its still not enough tension you can allways angle your springs to compensate. theres rarelly need for four springs
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..unless you want a sturdy, accurate sounding floyd.
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..unless you want a sturdy, accurate sounding floyd.
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which is what i do want..
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..unless you want a sturdy, accurate sounding floyd.
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no, as I have never played it, but more springs = more sturdy.
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