http://www.metalheadsagainstracism.org/

Speaks for itself. Spread the word. And if any mod cares, submit MetalTabs as an affiliate and put a banner somewhere on the site. It's a worthy cause.

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Ahahahaha, what a fucking joke!

I'm keeping my mouth shut.

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ICH BIN EIN UBERMENSCH!!!

(I really am, I have blond hair and blue eyes, I'm aryan )

+1

Racism is dead, fuck everything that continues the "word."

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I personally don't give a fuck about this i mean i aint racist but this is pretty dumb.

+1?

you dissapoint me. everybody is turning e-gay!!!

FUCKING SHIT SCRAPING GAYS!!! ARARRGGHAGAHHAAAA

Or shall I rephrase that.....

"I agree with this statement?"

Happy?

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yes, thank you.




bitch.

Why would we care aout racism though i mean it's not like black people are never racist to us i got a black mate and he's the most racist person i know but i get to call him nigger and coon alot.

So what if black people are racist? Racism is for intolerant mindless cunts, doesn't matter what race you belong to.

I don't care about racists, they can fucking rot in their bigotry for all I care. But racism does not belong in metal, this is what the group is all about. Keeping dumb intolerant cunts out of metal.

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do you think there is a lot of intolerant cunts in metal?

to be honest, most metalheads I know are the nicest people I've ever met. I don't know any racist metalheads but you're right, I wouldn't want to know them either.

pff you people realy are self-minded



true. But some of the most intolorant racist nazi cunts I know are metalheads too. And most people I know are not metalheads.

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So what do these guys actually do? Try to keep so called "racist" metal bands from playing and producing CD's? The whole thing seems a tad oxymoronic to me.

That's all admirable and everything. Although it isn't racist there's still aggression towards certain people within metal. Look how people here talk about goths and Christians sometimes. Respect begets respect regardless of who it is.

Man, that black Baptist gospel choir that sang at church yesterday had the place rockin'. I loved it. Loved it! Loved it! Even more than metal.

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so what if im a racist??

when the fuck are u a rasict anyway, if those muslim bastard are al over the world, killing peeps for some shit fuckign cunt poo believe, fuck me im a rasict, lets vote to make rasicme a official religion

heil kiem heil kiem... pfffffttttt

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ahum, let me point out that not every muslim is a bastard, same for white folks, redfolkas, black folks, etcetcetc. BUT if they act like mofos, then im a racist against them, not their race (htf do u spell that anyway:confused.


so i guess im not a rasict, but a personist???

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you don't like terrorist.

no problem there.

The only people i care for generally are my family , close friends and my lovely girlfriend of course.

I don't have anything against anyone who doesn't fit in any of those catagories so if your ok with me im ok with you, if not get fucked.

This is like a metal police?They track down
racist metalheads and kill them? Sounds cool.
Can I form an anticommunism metal police or at least
something similar?
Seriously though as someone else mentioned this is a bit
of an oxymoron

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not completely, ofcuz i hate terrorists, but if a marokkan calls me jesus cuz i have long curly hair, i think he should get stoned by me, without someone making ME pay for it

i eman, they come to my country, to get work, and have a better life, and they act like they own goddamn holland, no wonder i hate it

basivaly, i hate almost every muslim in my country, they dotn belong here, theyre makign a mess, weather theyre workign or not, im having a fuckign hard time getting a job, and these mofos, come here to egt a job??? doesnt make sence, our cells are full, with those shitfaces.

so actualy, i am a rasict

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I wouldn't call it racism at all. I hate anyone who hates me, whether your black, white, hispanic, asian, indian. Don't be hatin :P Now..., we all suffer from prejudice.

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I hate 99.9% of minoritys, very few are cool (in my eyes). so you may consider me racist... here look at this http://finalsolution88.com/Videos/MMMhater02.wmv

Being of half-asian descent I'm all for less racism in the world. I get it everyday, but unfortunately, not much can be done for death threats and hate mail. But oh well, I don't really give a fuck if ya hate me. I don't really give a fuck if I am hated for being asian, just fuels the metal fire inside. But yea, not much can be done about racism, so yea, this thread is good in intent, but kinda pointless. Yea, as for what I look like being half-asian, kinda like Matt Heafy or something.

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yeah i can find myself in that. i definatly dont hate peeps fopr beiing asian, but if theyhate me i sure as hell hate em back .

i think it rilli depends how u loko at it

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yeah, I hate lots of muslims for instance, but I`ve meet a couple of cool ones aswell. So I wait to judge them until I know something about them.

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Who the fuck are you or anyone to tell someone they can't enjoy or make a certain type of music because of a racialist belief?

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This is some gay shit.

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stupid stupid stupid

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metaltabs rules specifically say racism isn't tolerated on this site. There is no need affiliate with other sites.

had that been a white guy saying that about blacks...

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The point of this thing is to make racists unwelcome to metal. They shouldn't be welcome anywhere, but whatever.

This is just to show people that metal is not a form of music that conveys racism and intolerance, to save ourselves attacks from anti-racist folk. Racism isn't THAT big in metal, but it's growing with all these NS black metal bands and a few others like Arghoslent and the like. There's also a plethora of hatecore/metal acts and other bands that sport lyrics about racial supremacy. Metal doesn't need to be accused of this bullshit.

Racists -be it black, white, Asian, middle Eastern, Native American, etc.- are pathetic insecure human beings that feel that they need to gang up on people who are different in order to feel better about themselves. As much as I dislike racists, I don't wish for their extermination, but rather for them to open their eyes and see that race does not say anything about intelligence nor personality. If you feel it does, YOU have a flawed gene that impairs you from thinking logically, and we non-racists pity you. Racist/intolerant people have VERY LITTLE contact with the outside world and culture. If you're racist, you've probably never traveled outside of your country to visit another that's completely different.

If you hate all muslims K13m, it's because your opinion on them is only limited to the small group of religiously fanatic dirtbags that decided to blow some shit up. Those are the only Muslims you know, and even if you meet others you'll probably think the same without even considering what kind of person they are. Such generalizing is being narrow-minded.

I'm surprised that this forum has so many people that think like this, I really am.

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who said anything about ganging up

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as a matter of fact, racists are getting ganged up on, if anything

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Please, don't try to claim that racism exists because it's nature's way to perserve and defend the "purity of our race".

This is about ending intolerance and stupidity.

Ganging up? Well, you don't see just ONE white racist dude in Newark alone, otherwise he'd get his bigotrous ass kicked.

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Really. and if every racist was banned from making music there goes
black metal , Because evey black metal song i ever heard either talked about hitler or satan so..

Black metal was never originally about fascism or racism, but because of some ignorant national socialists we now have NS black metal scumbags giving metal a bad name.

And Satan has nothing to do with racism.

IT'S NOT ABOUT BANNING RACISTS FROM MAKING MUSIC, read the fucking stuff at the site. It's about preventing metalheads from being accused of being racist/intolerant/narrow-minded assholes.

Edit: People, I can't BELIEVE you're seriously trying to defend or justify racism! It's only making you look stupid.

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No one is defending Racism , But it does exist and to say it will ever be eradicated is foolish. As far as hating Muslims, I for one dont hate all Muslims But when the Towers came down it was by Muslims , When daniel Pearl was beheaded it was by muslims , and it was Muslims who danced in the streets of New Jersey and the west bank when the towers came down , its hard not to hate them all. But of course its the extremists that are the guilty party , but where is the rest of the islamic community screaming out against them.

yep trying to fight racism is like trying to fight death from ever happening, it WILL happen so shut up


who wants metal to have a perfect name for itself anyhow

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I guarrentee that the day people widely start to claim that metal is racist music, you'll be frustrated and will regret not having done something to clear up metal's stance. Unless you're really racist, but then you're just a cunt.

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listen here punk ass What do you want us to do , every one is only responsible for their own actions , you dont have any prejudism ? , if you say that you don't you're either a lying cunt or a phool.
So stop whining already and worry about your self and stop your holier than thou bullshit , Its fucking annoying.

You can take the Star Spangled Banner and make it metal or put a racist lyric to a melody from Sesame Street. It's not the music. It's the lyrical message and the biggest way to get across to anyone that you don't like something is to not support what they do. In the case of a band, don't buy the product that they produce.

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Racism IS holier/better than thou bullshit. Noone's better than anyone else because of race. If you do think this way you're a fucking mindless cunt, plain and simple. If you're not racist, why would you want this kind of music to become mindless intolerant bullshit? If you don't give a fuck about it, it'll eventually get worse.

Prejudice is faaaaar from racism, so get that pointy white hat out of your ass.

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I think a lot of you haven't even read what the cause of this organization is. It's to stop metal from being associated with racists/fascists, because the majority of metal listeners aren't. Now you would say "If the majority aren't racist, why give a fuck?" Because non-racists aren't dumbasses and don't want to be labeled as such.

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I don't know which of y'all deserve to be sterilised more - the "fukking brownn p3ople!!1!" cretins or the PC fags.

Let's address the root cause of this whole posturing silliness and racism put together and start Metalheads Against Stupidity. Logically, it seems that this should come first. Many lot of you will have to die, but it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.

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stop your crying , Racism and prejudism go hand in hand nimrod, no says here being a racist is a good thing. But did you know dark skin Blacks loathe lighter skin blacks. Bet you didnt know that. Catholics hate protestants, Pakistanis hate Indians , viet namese hate the Chinese every one hates the Jews so go ahead change the world. Its not just Metal. ever listen to Rap ,
So stop your fucking bitching and moaning and worry about how you live your life and stop worrying about something you have no control about.

You're being a blockhead and totally missing the fucking point. I think most of us can all agree that racism is stupid. But if you don't like racism, why not stop it from infiltrating the music you like?

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It can't be done that's why. It's always been although maybe not in that particular music, but everything has had it's moment with racism or prejudice of some sort. Just don't promote it and make it fashionable and it will be a small population that supports it. As soon as it loses the more underground status then it's going to be the flavor of the week. Just like rap became.
You said something important yourself that should make you feel better--mainly that most metalheads aren't in favor of it. That should tell you something right there.

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First off I dont like white supremacist assholes , so I dont even listen to that neo nazi cunty shit. But short of not buying or listening to that crud. Ok Im open to your ideas how do we stop people from feeling the way they do , I know lets De program them. People will have their own fears and thats sadly just the way it is.
Look I said I dont hate all muslims but I'll tell ya what every time I see a middle eastern looking person when Im getting on a bus or plane I cant keep my eyes off the fucker. He is probably some innocent guy, but fuck afrer 9-11 and London and Madrid and bali and so on what the fuck you expect .
It sucks but its the reality.

I have some stereotypical ideas of certain cultures myself as well, but I don't discriminate at all.

I'm a Spaniard and I was surely pissed because of the Madrid bombings, but I hold absolutely nothing against the followers of Islam or middle Easterns in general. Only the people who blew the train up, which just happen to be Muslim. I don't stare at a Muslim dude or anyone else ever, it's just not right to generalize a certain people because of such a small percentage of dumbasses in that community. However most people don't think this way.

This is the same case with metal. There are very few racists in the scene but why stop there? It's only going to increase, and if the people who care don't step forward to say (in the words of Dead Kennedys) "Nazi Punks, Fuck Off", then it's eventually going to harm the metalheads that never supported racism in the first place. I don't want to be lumped together with fascists because of my musical taste.

This organization is not trying to eradicate racism in metal, but just to make it clear to everyone that metal is NOT about racism. This IS possible, because if the majority step forth it will make it clear that racism is not acceptable for us metalheads. But if everyone keeps quiet it's going to be something that non-racists metalheads will regret.

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well good luck to ya
and by the way I hate Spaniards , because of you guys i Had to learn freaking spanish in school which sucked ass and I flunked it . dam Spaniards
just kidding there pedro

Read the lyrics to "Hootie and the Blowfish" by Anal Cunt.

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It's not my fault mate, blame Latin/South Americans from moving into your country and becoming such a huge minority that everyone should learn Spanish to accomodate them now. Lol. Well actually it is Spain's fault... for invading the Americas and forcing all the Natives to learn our language and worship our God.

Actually I hate that... when hispanics say that Americans should learn Spanish... they came to this country, THEY should learn English just like I did! Well I learned both languages simoultaneously but what the fuck, if you move to another land then accomodate to it, don't expect everyone to accomodate to you.

Anyway I appreciate the good luck comment, but it would be cool if you showed some support -not to me- but to those guys at MAR.

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Well I'm not a lighthearted liberal so I didn't have a heart attack. And I know Anal Cunt aren't a serious band so I don't care. You think that's offensive? Read some Arghoslent lyrics.

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Anyone who'll assume I'm a racist because I listen to metal probably isn't worthy of me giving a flying fuck about their opinion.

Just a whole load of wasted effort I say.

dude at that point there the majority, fuck been to CA lately? shit all you see is mexicans and you hear more spanish then english whites are definitally the 'minority' there

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Dude, the population of Union City is like 70% Dominican, 24% Cuban, 3% black, 2% Indian(as in Hindu, not Native American), and the rest is African American, white American, and me and like four more dudes from Europe and 1 Australian dude that frequents the pharmacy store I work at. I feel lonely... but at least I speak the same language that 94% of the city does, I mean NOBODY speaks English ANYWHERE here. Lol. And my mom complains she won't move to the US cause she can't get used to speaking English.

I met a Columbian metalhead the other day... was a cool experience. I wonder where all the Mexican and Brazilian death/thrashers are.

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I'm going to look them up.Yeah Anal Cunt isn't serious,but to the 'mainstream' they are.




^And....there you have it.

Maby if more black people would stop acting like fucking dumbass gangstas there wouldnt be such a problem. They really try to make the best of themselves by trying to speak incorrectly, acting stupid, and doing mindless fucking crimes . Its their fault if you ask me. Oh and by the way, they hate us (whites) to. But i dont hate all blacks, its just the gangster ones.

-Drake

I hate to say it, but most of the black people that I know are the most loud, obnoxious, inconsiderate, assholes I've ever seen, and a lot of them are racists againts whites also, always trying to make white people feel like shit because they just plain suck at life. I'm not saying all of them are like that, and I hate to say it again but that's just the way it is these days.

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You're clearly racist. What about gangsta whites? They deserve a kick in the groin as well...

Despite gangstas being annoying for the most part, their situation is understandable. If you find gangstas annoying, read this article, it's extremely interesting:

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=85000779

Basically gives a rundown about what "true" hip hop/rap is about. Those obnoxious "bling bling" rappers that sing about how much money they have and what cars they own are posers, same as Nu metal or hair metal bands would be to us metalheads.

I don't understand racist rap though... a message like that isn't going to take them anywhere. By the way, I don't like rap, I simply do give a fuck about what's going on in the world

I've met Mike Smith(Suffocation's drummer(who is black), as well as Derek Boyer, their white-as-hell bassist. ) and he's one of the coolest most mellow dudes ever. I wish I knew more black metalheads. There's usually 4 or 5 when I go see metal shows at NYC. I go to Newark(for college) often so I feel comfortable being around the typical rapper black people no matter how gangsterous and obnoxious they act at times(to be honest, wiggers are actually twice as annoying as black rapper dudes).

If you feel uncomfortable around them it's because you haven't been around these people, if you live in a place without a lot of diversity it's understandable, but don't just shut your doors to them because they act or speak differently. I've met more honest down-to-earth minorities than white Americans since I moved to the US last year, and this is coming from a 100% white dude. Why? I don't know... maybe it's because I was raised differently and I've been all over the world, so I have a wide wordly perspective. I like to learn about all sorts of people and cultures, I'm not hesitant to ask others questions about their religion or community. As long as it's not some retarted shit like "Why can black people jump so high?".

I don't like the fact that white dudes get depicted by some minorities as corny-ass losers, but hell I don't mind that much. At least I'm not being whipped, tied up, thrown into a boat along with a bunch of other dudes and sailed across the ocean to be their slave. Letting them have a small laugh is the least we could do for everything we've done to them, don't you think?

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A certain "hitler had the right idea" Bill Hicks tirade comes to mind for this thread...

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What a shit site.

Soeru, go suck a cock and stop preaching just cause your a spic and people give you shit. Theres alot of racist metalheads, it'll never end.

if youre going to bend over backwards to defend every single person of every race and say that their actions are not the actions of their race as a whole, then you're going to get no where.

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Well... wtf, cuz I'm white and I don't get discriminated one bit. Goes to show how much you know about anything. I'm just not an asshole and categorize people by race. You're more retarted than any non-white I know. But bah, you're world perception is that of a fucking retarted ignorant inbreeding redneck that has never left his town. You probably can't tell the difference between a Mexican and a Chinese dude. Fuck you and your ignorant brick-skulled brains. Step into the fucking 21st century, or enjoy your backwards evolution, while you inbreed yourselves into down-syndrome, as if your IQ's could possibly get lower, cunts.

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A lot of the minorities that do come here are very hard-working people that bust their butts to make things better for their families. To them I give a lot of credit. To the ones that come for a free ride it isn't much better than the West Virginians moving to Ohio for better welfare benefits or the Ohioans moving to Pennsylvania because they have better heath coverage. There's always going to be people taking advantage for the wrong reasons and some for the right ones.
As far as the language thing, I think that effort should be made to at least learn to communicate with whatever place you're living, but to give up your native language wouldn't be right either. That's a loss of culture and a lot of American language is from other places. I think the diversity is pretty cool. This is a heavy Finn/Swede and Italian area especially by the Lake so there's a lot of the old folks that still use that.

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+1. If only more people were as open minded as you are, the US would be an even greater place to live in. I'm really surprised that a nation that was founded on liberty, equality, and democracy still has so many bigots in the population. But it's nice to know that people like you think this way.

I have never seen such a level of racism and intolerance in all of the European countries I've visited, and there is waaaaay less diversity in Europe than in the US!

If you think diversity is a problem, you are the problem. Racism is not natural, it comes from ignorance. If you even dare to justify racism it just clearly shows your poor level of knowledge and education.

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Now this makes me hate most black people i mean is this what alot of them think? i'm sure it's not just him so fuck those Black skinned cunts!

But still if they are ok with me im alright with them but i only have one black friend who isn't a complete twat.

The guy in that video is an extremist cunt. The grudge he holds against whites is so intense that he got a bunch of people fueled with hatred along him. Why is that? Because they feel insecure, unfortunately see whites as a menace, and they need to gang up on whites to feel better about themselves. White/any other racists do the EXACT same thing. The KKK, Nazis, skinhead/Neo-Nazis... they act in groups. It's all about dominating in order to feel better, that's what happens when racism gets taken to a larger level.

But look at it this way, would you want everyone to call ALL WHITES racist because of some assholes like the KKK and Nazis? Yeah... I don't think you'd like to get lumped with those dudes. And you're doing the exact same thing to blacks. You see this guys speech or you hear about one black dude commiting a crime, and all of the sudden all blacks are horrible beings. You're doing the same exact thing this black Nazi is doing, judging an entire people because on what a very small percentage did. It's being one-sided, as Transient has SO VERY CLEARLY demonstrated.

Think of it this way too> a bunch of metalheads decided to murder a bunch of people in the name of Satan(don't ask me where, but this has happened tons of times in Mexico, Norway, Germany, US, tons of other places), but does this mean that all metalheads are violent or worship Satan? Of course not! If you don't want people making generalizations about you because of what a few dumbasses did, don't generalize about other people.

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nobody's gonna change the world,
joining that site isn't gonna make racists think they ought to stop.
hate is good for people with nothing better to do, but its too much like hard work for me to bother with.

having an opinion is one thing, (which incedentally i dont think your entitled too, but then thats my opinion), but sit tight with it in the secure knowledge that its your opinion that sets you apart. woe betide he who tries to do something about it. the second you do you're doomed
if you think you can change something for the better, by all means, waste your life.

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Jesus fucking christ... how many times do I have to say it. IT'S NOT ABOUT CHANGING THE WORLD, it's about avoiding neutral metalheads from being lumped with racists because of a few cunts in the scene. There's enough conservatives on our asses because of violent and Satanic themed lyrics, why would we also want PC liberals fucking with neutral metalheads as well?

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What about the studies that show the an IQ gap and an SAT score gap between races?

Yes yes I know the tests are bias, wah wah wah. Make all the excuses you want the data is there.

I'm a big Arghoslent fan and I find thier lyrics to be quite intelligent. Instead of typical "Smah this nigger's face in!" they are all historicaly based. They are really just telling the story of our history. Yes, the band themselves are racist, but to say they convey that through their lyrics is streching it. They tell of historical facts that were based on race.

The majority of balcks I meet are all obnoxious, loud, and can't speak english properly. For example I work in Sears selling elctronics, when they buy something, they are always trying to get me to knock of 10% and when I don't they get mad and start mumbling gibberish which I can't understand.

Blah, whatever, this is pointles to argue.

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I'm not racist, I just hate thugs...ok heres a joke I made up...

What do you call a government with all black diplomats?


A 3rd World Country!!

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Yeah, it's pointless to argue. Nothing makes you better than anyone else.


I know some of Arghoslent's songs are historical, but most convey an idea of supremism. Which is an extremely stupid ideal. These lyrics are supposed to be intelligent? :

Burying swords into emaciated ribs
Tired naked souls
Could no longer walk
Exotic filthy mongrel dogs
Fettered to failure
By a flawed genome

With laziness indelible and inherent
The pitch brutes lived
At the end of the whip

Burying swords into emaciated ribs
Tired naked souls
Could no longer walk
Exotic filthy mongrel dogs
Fettered to failure
By a flawed genome

With laziness indelible and inherent
The pitch brutes lived
At the end of the whip
Disarming them of bows
And poisoned arrows
A lifetime of penitence
Follows the lost battle
Infusion of their poisoned blood
Spirals into societal decay

The sobs of the defeated
Became a painful roar
Longing for a painless death
Became their vision of heaven

Resolved to avenge the deaths
Of those killed tribesmen
Set themselves ablaze
To avoid captured humility
European death revealed mortality

Iberian troops gather their weapons
Journey for centre of the plateau

Being able to use a dictionary doesn't make you a more intelligent nor a more decent human being. You seriously need to get off your high-and-mighty throne and talk to more diverse people, to think that skin color dictates intellence and personality is incredibly blockheaded. All of us are niggers, you know, human life originated in the ancient continent of Africa. Read some real textbooks, keep an open mind and travel more, otherwise you'll just be another xenophobic paranoid redneck that put the white race to shame more than any gangsta black guy could to his..

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Sorry i left that out, but yes wiggers suck too. I dont think im racist, i just hate everyone equally

[QUOTE=Shreddist][QUOTE=Soeru]What about gangsta whites? They deserve a kick in the groin as well...

Okay... so we agree. I can dislike or like a black dude just as much as an Asian or an American or European. It's all about your personality. If you're an asshole, you're an asshole regardless of where you're from. I have not assumed that the racist folk posting in this thread are white, however do realize that I've used you're postings to judge you as a person. Reading someone's writing is very nifty because you can tell if the person is an asshole immedeately, rather than having to look past someone's behavior. So I don't know how any of you behave, but I can already point out more than a few bigotrous assholes.

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Yes, the human race did originate around there, but we spread out and adapted to our surrounding. Some of thoes surroundng produced more productive cultures. And is it simply chance that the majority of thoes cultures were either white or asian?

I think you are assuming that just because they are racist they can't have an expanded vocabulary and a knowlege of history. But oh wait, tahts right anyone who is racist has something flawed in thier genetic structure. Hmmm care to back that up?

I'm not a redneck, nor paranoid. It's prtty funny that someone who preches off thier mighty throne of tolerance and anti-sterotypes is sterotyping someone because they believe there are differences in races. If you would really like to hear my actual belief on race, I'll tell you but not if I get boring responses like being called a paranoid redneck.

Oh I never said I was better or the white race is better. You are arguing points I never made. All I'm saying is we are different. And in this day in age, that difference gives us an advantage.

Think about it, teh average black guy is a better athlete than the average white guy. But teh average white guy has a high IQ than the average black guy. This day in age it is ore important to be smart than physicaly inclined. This was not true some years ago.

Bottom line we are all equally unequal.

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thats one of the smartest things said so far in this thread

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all kidding aside , you are not going to readicate racism ,all you can do is control your own behavor.
So stop having a canary what others feel .Its great to be racism free but its a fantasy and its not going to happen.
Like I said before I dont hate all muslims But where is the muslim community crying out against the jihadists who have killed so many innocent people , till they do cry out I think they are complicit.
You can preach about tolerance all you want but we are fighting an enemy that would kill your entire family just because your an indidel , even for listening to metal music you would be tortured and killed. So your barking up the wrong tree. No one here in MT killed anyone as far as I know . Well maybe transient and Execrator but then again with them you never know. Go protest outside the embassy of syria or Islamic Jihad or some fucked up shit like that and get off your fucking soap box.

How is this not saying that being part of a certain race is not better, or "more advantageous" as you put it?

True that some civilizations developed faster than others, but that is only influenced by the surroundings and resources available, which in turn provide a home for culture and traditions to grow. These moral values eventually -for the most part- determine the kind of behavior that everyone else in that culture has, but not personality. If one gives in to the clichès of their culture they're simply allowing themselves to be brainwashed into carrying out a life just like every one of your ancestors has. There are "average joes" in every race and culture, but again: you can't base an entire population's personality on the behavior of a select few. Not everyone gives in to the cliché's of their culture. Just like not all Europeans want to get married, have children, grow old and have them to take care of them until death. In fact, nowadays people like this are very uncommon, yet Europeans still are frequently associated with this sort of rudimentary lifestyle.



No, re-read my post. My claim was that anybody can pick up a dictionary or a history book and use elaborate vocabulary to convey any thought. This thought is your personality. Being able to communicate better doesn't make you a better person, it just shows the level of grammar education you've had, nothing else. I know many black people that have far better communication/language skills than any typical Wall Street white businessman.


I never made that statement in a literal sense. Racism, racialism, thinking some races are more "fit", or whatever you wish to call it is taught by folk who have a poor unrounded education, it is not nature. Nothing in your genes says you're going to be racist.



Where is the proof for this? How can you prove blacks are more athletic than whites? How can you prove that whites are naturally more intelligent than blacks? I wish to see some real statistics. And American SAT scores do not count, an SAT test is not an IQ test, it does not say how smart you are rather how prepared you are for a test. You cannot prepare for an IQ test. And no offense, but don't base your statements on US test scores. Students in the US receive very poor education in schools, and in poor black public schools even more. So if more black people in the US got lower scores it's because of the crappy jack education they received. If you think your SAT score means anything besides how good your schooling was, you need to sit down and analyze the type of questions on the SAT and what knowledge is previously necessary to take the exam.

Races are definately different, but the difference is only a part of the genome that affects the physical aspects of a human. Genetics also determine IQ(however it's also increased by the kind of contact the child has in infancy), but these genes are seperate from those that determine race/origin of the person. I am majoring in Biology, so you can rest assured that I know what I'm talking about.

My English teacher once provided me with an interesting article about a recent gene study(which I do no longer have, but I can get another copy if you wish). It was about some company that provides genetic testing for a large sum of money, and they accurately track down your ancestry to specific areas in continents. One of the people that payed for this service was a man who looked black and was raised as an African American. He went to black-only schools, attended black-only churches, and all of his friends and family were black. The gene testing showed that he had absolutely NO trace of heritage from Africa, absolutely no African genes, but rather somewhere in North Asia. But hey, it doesn't matter, he sure was one lazy filthy rich unproductive nigger, right?

You cannot possibly convey racism intelligently, the same way I cannot convince anyone in their right mind that the air they breathe does not contain oxygen no matter how elaborate my language skills are, unless of course the person is inconceivably gullible. People who believe everything they've been told without doing prior unbiased research and critical thinking on their own. These people are the subjects of racism.

I truly feel sorry if you think this way about others, I can only hope you can open your eyes to the truth some day. Perhaps this little post will find a spot in your mind that you'll eventually tap into if you try. All these posts convey nothing but my good intentions.

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Fuck Gangstas and wiggers and posers and All you fucking fucks who dont fucking agree with everything I fucking say

I agree just fuck everyone

That's more like it. End discrimination. Suffocation puts it clearly: Cremate the human race!

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I dont know if thise proves anything but think about slavery, blacks had to do all the labor so only the more fit leen althetic type blacks survived and would pass on those jeans to their kin and so on


again not sure if those proves anything but think about all the technological advancements and even not so technological ones were made by whites, blacks have what peanut butter and the gas mask?



have you ever heard of the 'chitlin' test? its an iq sat type test designed for black kids if this calaber. with shit they would/should know like 'how long do you boil chitlins for' (hence the name) any white person (well most) would have no fucking clue but almost all blacks would cause its a black 'soul food' (pig guts basically)

no offence (and you probably do know what your talking about) but that doesnt mean shit, how do we know your not failing and doing poorly?

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HA! When walpurgis' dad was on his ship one of his superiors asked a Philipino guy that worked for Denny if he thought Denny was prejudiced. The guy said "Denny? No. He hate everybody."

Honest to goodness. And the males of the family continue that tradition.

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Yeah.... they passed on their pants alright. Learn to spell.



The first man to make a heart transplant was black. Even if they didn't do much in the past, how can you expect them to be able to do anything in such a restricted society known as the pre-civil rights US? And if you want to get nitpicky with modern advancements, there are tons of brilliant black engineers, medical doctors, and writers out there. Why does it matter if a black dude invented something you use every day? Did anyone from your neighborhood invent something useful?

Oh yeah, here's the big one: you like heavy metal right? You know metal comes from rock, right? Are you aware that rock is actually "negro music"? That's right, the entire concept of rock and metal music derives from African American music, in particular: blues(not really jazz unless you mean bands like Atheist). So if you hate negroes that much, stop playing metal, stop playing electric guitar, don't even THINK about playing bass or drums... go to a fucking mountain and blow a horn or yodel or some shit.


What the fuck is this? Is this some sick racist joke?



What the fuck, do I need to email you a transcript of my grades? For your information, I'm doing moderately well in the class, but that's because I haven't put all my effort in some activities(mainly labs, which are a moderate portion of the grade). Regardless of my grade, I know much more than my collegues because I've been reading tons of biological texts since I was young, I'm very interested in it and therefore I'm more knowledgeable about it than many people in my class. Grades don't say shit about knowledge, it's how much effort you put into the class.

The flag in your avatar and the kinds of ridiculous questions you just made -however- say a lot about your education.

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oh you got me, you smart devil you


1-what about when they were still in africa? while europe was making the printing press, had govts. set up, writing operas, starting to get rights in place, afircans were still hunting lions in loin cloths

2-when did I say I hated them, really show me

3-no, 'what do you call a barn full of niggers? antique farm equipment' <- thats a racist joke

4-if you feel the need to

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1)Because of this, do you think you're smarter and better than any black person? I think we've already made it clear that advances and development is extremely influenced by the surroundings. Africans didn't have access to many natural resources. In some of the more populated areas in Africa, wood is very scarce, so it's very hard to make tools out of stone and crap.

Developments also don't just occur because one dude had a brainstorm, it's because he had the right resources and ideas at the right time.

If you feel that technological developments determine your intelligence, can you explain why the products of German civil engineering are far more complex and advanced than any other works of C.E. in the U.S.? Oh yeah, Germans are smarter than Americans right?

2)You're racist. Go ahead, try to deny it.

3)Why don't you give me some more information about this "chitlin" test? I don't believe this bullshit, sounds like something a complete ignorant would say.

4)Fuck no.

Edit: Actually I'm done with this thread, you simpletons bore me.

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This thread is funny as hell, ive never noticed it before.

Hey Soeru, go get an avatar...what are you? Black or something?

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then why did everyone want to colonize it? for their resources



shit, I bet most of them are

yea becouse I would never do this just to get a rise out of people


http://www.ship.edu/~cgboeree/intelligence.html in which is said,
Other examples: The famous "chittlin's" test, biased towards black Americans. It is named for the question: "What are chittlin's?" Answer: Pig's intestines, cleaned, soaked, and fried (originally called chitterlings)


or http://aad.english.ucsb.edu/docs/brgardner.html
. The critiques of standardized tests offered by Sturm and Guinier are familiar ones. Indeed, the journalist Walter Lippmann offered most of them in the 1920s. Various attempts have been made to overthrow this orthodoxy, from logical arguments to legal challenges to blatant ridicule--some thirty years ago, psychologists developed the "Chitlin test" of intellectual competence, which (as the name implies) presupposed cultural literacy in the African American world.

http://www.blacknews.com/pr/miseducation101.html
While addressing the prevailing Euro-centric testing mania, he also provides a 60-question Chitlin Test on African American History-Culturechallenging both teachers and administrators to pass this Afro-centric test



@cyber, why did you feel the need to quote me when you said that?

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Because it was funny when i read it, such as the chitlin test with this one

By "resources" I surely hope you mean slaves. They easily captured Africans since they had firearms. European invaders didn't have a fucking clue that Ghana was chock full of gold mines, not to mention the barely made it that far.

Well that about does it for me.

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Well...look who came crawling back..your like a mexican looking for a job!!

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How do you think i feel dude i gotta work with nothing but wannabe wigger white gangsters that rap all FUCKIN night. I have words with them everyday & it comes close to a brawl constantly. Their IQ is that of a pea, it makes me fucking sick.

so what are opinions on people who will date/marry only within their race? whats your opinion of a future big "grey" mixed race? do you think thats a good idea?

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What the hell? Africa thrived on slavery before the "white oppressors" came. It was actually Africans who sold their own people to the the whites.

http://debate.uvm.edu/dreadlibrary/mclean.html



Hank Williams has been credited with possibly writing the first Rock n Roll song ever ("Move it on Over"). If you listen to Johnny Horton you can tell where the "Rock n Roll" sound came from as well.

Buddy Holly was the first to be called by the "Rock n Roll" title and he was White.

Rock n Roll came from Rockabilly which was a faster and I guess you could say "rebellious" version of the Honky-tonk style of country, which was the harder hitting (and rebellious) country of somewhere around the late 40's and early 50's that was played to keep up with the noise at rowdy bars.

Sure, blues has influenced some Rock music, I'll give you that - but essentially, Rock was a white cultural phenomenon.



Don't just make a sweeping statement like that and talk out of your arse. Some areas in Africa are endowned with enormous amounts of natural resources while some are not.

Edit:


I don't adhere to a rule like "don't marry outside of your race" or something, I've just never seen an attractive non-white person, that's just me - everyone has different standards of what's attractive and what isn't.

The "grey" mixed race is a horrific idea. With a loss of racial identity comes a loss of cultural identity (race and culture go hand in hand) - and such a thing cannot be allowed to happened. Like I've said previously, segregation is the best form of multiculturalism.

You guys really should watch a few old episodes of "Good Times" not just for the comedic value of JJ, but to see what tv was like and racial thoughts back in the 70's were. Blacks weren't afraid to "call a spade a spade" back then. That "Chitlin Test" reminded me of a recent episode I watched where Michael, the young, very intelligent, wannabe attorney, had taken an test to see how smart he really was and failed it miserably. His parents went to the person who had given the test to question him about it. There was a lot of questions on the test that were "very white" questions and didn't mean a thing to an inner city kid. So they asked the instructor questions about Malcolm X and other things pertaining to their lifestyle. He couldn't answer.
So the main point was it wasn't fair to judge all knowledge by one test the way it stood then. It needed to pertain to all classes and all races.

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this is kinda a little too much, i didnt read the whole thread, but im gunna leave this at a tom araya quote 'I hate everyone equally"

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You want fucking proof that the average black is more athletic? Look at modern sports.

And IQ tests are not biased racialy. If taht was true asian's wouldnt score higher than whites.

And surroundings do have an impact on the growth of a culture, but it is the culture's job to use it's surroundings to flourish. Africa just got on the fucking ball with proper farming tecniques that have been around for 100s of years.

What does it say about a culture that sells it's own peole into slavery?

You are looking for every excuse to take blame off of blacks. Thier surroundings held them down from flourishing? Well why the fuck didnt they move like all the others since the human race originated from one general area? Why is Africa still so far behind? Why does the drug and gang activity in African country mirrior that going on in American cities?

Go ahead, blame it on poverty, but they are in poverty for a reason.

You are all for segregation, well thats my fucking point. We are different. And because of thoes differences in culture and race, we clash.

How come when someone points out someone is racist they feel like they made some triumph and always follow up with "Don't deny it!". I'm racist, so wah.

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