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Old 2005-10-16, 08:09
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Harmonics

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I was just wondering what the notes created by either Natural Harmonics and Pinch Harmonics are in relation to the note bring played.
That is id I play the natural harmonic at A on the low E string... What note have i created? Is it something like 2 octaves above on A...
And what about the pinch harmonics.. I know that the actual place you pick the string makes a different sound, but lets just talk about the 'standard' place you would pick it.

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Old 2005-10-16, 15:00
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I dont think it just jumps up two octaves cause if you play that harmonic you mentioned and the 7th fret harmonic on the A string its the same note(hence thats why so many guitarists use it to tune) I had a piano tuner explaine it to me once but at the time I didnt understand it and so i dont remember what he said
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Old 2005-10-16, 15:24
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Yeah, id be interested in the theory behind it too, as I looked in to it a while ago as a means of harmonizing pinch harmonics...never got far.
 
Old 2005-10-16, 20:23
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Quick search and I came up with this
Shows all the natural harmonic notes, talks about artificial, and the physics of harmonics. Hope this helps!
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Old 2005-10-17, 07:11
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Hmm yeah thanks for that Gravy .. but it still didnt explain what note you are playing etc.

Yeah my guitar teacher told me that thing about the 2 octave thing, didnt really believe him either.

So... no one really knows much about the theory behind Harmonics??? Yet they appear in tabs all the time!?
 
Old 2005-10-17, 19:27
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Hmm yeah thanks for that Gravy .. but it still didnt explain what note you are playing etc.

Yeah my guitar teacher told me that thing about the 2 octave thing, didnt really believe him either.

So... no one really knows much about the theory behind Harmonics??? Yet they appear in tabs all the time!?



yeah.... its just one of those techniques that has to be memorized by ear.....
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Old 2005-10-17, 19:41
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If you read the posted page, it technically does answer your question. When you play a 12th fret harmonic on your E string it plays the note that you would get by playing the 12th fret (an E). When you play a 7th fret (or a 19th fret, since this is the same thing), you are splitting the string in three, so it is like you just played the 19th fret (which, if you look, creates a string length of one third of the open string length), thus you get a B.
Playing the 5th or 24th fret is like cuting the string in 4, so you get one quarter of the length of the string, ie the exact same note you would get on the 24th fret.

When you play a pinch harmonic, it is essentially the same thing, you are dividing the length of the string. so if you fret the 13th fret on the E, and do a pinch harmonic at where the 26th fret would be (unless you are some weirdo with a a 26th fret, then play over this fret) then you get the note that would result if you were to play that imaginary 26th fret. You'll get an octave higher if you pinch where the 52th fret would be, but that might be too hard to do ...
but hopefully you get it by now
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Old 2005-10-18, 07:59
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yeah.... its just one of those techniques that has to be memorized by ear.....


I was going to disagree with that, until I saw Rattlehead's explanation. I understand the science behind it but playability?! Dammit, to get a pinch harmonic in perfect pitch would be damn hard... And then maybe you would wanna do a couple over a few strings .. :S

Maybe there are simpler explanations, I mean, im sure we would all want to include pinch harmonics in our songs - confident in their musicality.

Maybe someone has some definant notes of some pinch harmonics? I tried using my tuner but found it to be no use... It was way off.

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