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Old 2005-10-15, 08:17
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The OFFICIAL 7-string guitar thread

I see alot of questions in various threads about 7-strings so i think this thread might be a good idea, Plus it would give all the 7-string users a cool thread to talk about their 7-string guitar regarding sound, problems etc. because each brand & 7-string is unique. Or to post pics of their thick necked pride & joy. Here is my current Ibanez RG 7-string that is currently getting a EMG 707 installed by my local guitar tech as i type this & the other pic is of my Schecter A-7 Diamond series that i sold a couple of weeks ago.

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Old 2005-10-15, 08:28
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Hmm...I like this thread already.
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Old 2005-10-15, 09:37
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Think I've given up for now with the hunt for a seven string guitar. I've never played one, but every shop I've gone into has basically said if I want to try one, they have to order it; if they order it, I have to buy it.

Other than one shop that had John Petruccis 7 string guitar in, and the staff got all high and mighty (or up their arses) thinking they're some form of elite musicians because they are repairing someone's signiture model of a very expensive guitar.

Could you post a scalar reference, such as a ruler against the fretboard (vertically) just so I can get an idea of string spacing and neck size...
 
Old 2005-10-16, 01:43
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Does anyone have a Schecter C7 Blackjack or a similar model? If so how is the action? What shape is the neck? etc. Because I am really liking the specs on it and the only thing keeping me from buying it is my lack of knowledge about the neck. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
 
Old 2005-10-16, 04:09
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I was considering getting a 7 string but I changed my mind. I'd like to try a 7string one day and see what it's like, but there's only 2 bands that I like that use 7's: Behemoth and Morbid Angel. But they don't even use it much, Behemoth only used Ibanez RG7's on Zos Kia Cultus and MA only on Covenant and Gateways, so I'd be getting one just to play a few songs. I'm getting a 6-string with a trem now instead of a 7-string, I think I'll have way much more fun with that...
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Old 2005-10-16, 06:30
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Does anyone have a Schecter C7 Blackjack or a similar model? If so how is the action? What shape is the neck? etc. Because I am really liking the specs on it and the only thing keeping me from buying it is my lack of knowledge about the neck. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.



My friend has that guitar. It sounds great! The only prob is the neck is a little thick. Personally I would get this :The Hellraiser

obviously because you could just drop a EMG 81-7 in there....other than that....it is a great guitar...so get the hellraiser!!!!
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Old 2005-10-16, 07:08
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My friend has that guitar. It sounds great! The only prob is the neck is a little thick. Personally I would get this :The Hellraiser

obviously because you could just drop a EMG 81-7 in there....other than that....it is a great guitar...so get the hellraiser!!!!


You mean EMG 707's, Although there is 81-7's but the pickup has too much treble, I got my guitar back today with my EMG 707 installed which is more of a punchy low & high sound & i was laughing with glee when i first started jamming on it, It was like my guitar was sick & awoke with a throaty roar.

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Old 2005-10-16, 08:47
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To each his own. I am glad you like it though. I didn't mean that they come with 81-7's in em...I meant it would be easy to swap from a 707 to a 81-7 in the Hellraiser.
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Old 2005-10-16, 20:01
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I want to get an old Ibanez Steve Vai 7 string. I don't know what model it is but I've seen pics of it. It looks like a universe but has his "handle"(you know that hole thing to lift the guitar by) on the body and his signature Vine inlays.
And a Floyd Rose 7 string bridge insted of an Edge Pro. I think it's a lower case model as well. Does anyone know the exact model name for the guitar?
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Old 2005-10-16, 22:31
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I was considering getting a 7 string but I changed my mind. I'd like to try a 7string one day and see what it's like, but there's only 2 bands that I like that use 7's: Behemoth and Morbid Angel. But they don't even use it much, Behemoth only used Ibanez RG7's on Zos Kia Cultus and MA only on Covenant and Gateways, so I'd be getting one just to play a few songs. I'm getting a 6-string with a trem now instead of a 7-string, I think I'll have way much more fun with that...


Morbid Angel uses 7-strings on every album after Covenant. Obviously not every single song, but quite a majority of them.
 
Old 2005-10-16, 23:07
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I want to get an old Ibanez Steve Vai 7 string. I don't know what model it is but I've seen pics of it. It looks like a universe but has his "handle"(you know that hole thing to lift the guitar by) on the body and his signature Vine inlays.
And a Floyd Rose 7 string bridge insted of an Edge Pro. I think it's a lower case model as well. Does anyone know the exact model name for the guitar?


Try www.jemsite.com it has every 7-string & Jem known to man with serial numbers, pics & info.

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Old 2005-10-16, 23:11
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Morbid Angel uses 7-strings on every album after Covenant. Obviously not every single song, but quite a majority of them.


He used a 7-string on Covenant, you can clearly tell thats what it is thats giving him that sound.
 
Old 2005-10-17, 03:34
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Morbid Angel uses 7-strings on every album after Covenant. Obviously not every single song, but quite a majority of them.


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He used a 7-string on Covenant, you can clearly tell thats what it is thats giving him that sound.


There was definately a 7 on Covenant on a few songs, but some others were in Eb on a 6string. 7-strings were used on Domination and a few tracks on Gateways, but FFtF was completely in Eb, as well as Heretic. 7's weren't used quite as much as you say they are.

Trust me, I'm extremely familiar with all of Morbid Angel's material. *hides his uberkvult-grim-as-fvck demo and rehearsal tapes* Back off, I say!
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Old 2005-10-17, 03:58
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sorry boys, but i think 7 stringers are overrated.

it doesnt take any special skills to play it, nor do they offer much of a difference in sound.
if peeps wanna tune down a 7 stringer and ride the low Bb or whatever, or theyre gonna utilise all 7 strings and play leads as well as rhythm, well thats fine with me, i dont care.
but you gotta remember, 7 string guitars were just a fad that came in with numetal, and only a handful of peeps actually treated them or any other guitar with any respect, not that im saying anyone here isnt going to do so, but for me, theyre nothing special.

il recount this story: i was loking for a 2nd hand 7 string one day, so i check in this store, downtown music in sydney, and they had a multicoloured pink lime swirly piece of ugly ibanez shit. there was a poofter checking out the same guitar so to get in on it i ask one of the sales dudes how much, they said 3 or 4, im thinking thats alright for that shit, but i told em id have to repaint it coz im not gonna be seen playing anything as gay as that thing.
the dude walks away to check on the price and comes back saying its 10. after a moment of thinking, i ask him if he meant 10 grand, and hes says yep, and imagine the look on this fags face when i yelled out, "who the fucks gonna fork out ten grand for that piece of gay shit?!".
the dude then starts his monotribe on how limited edition it is and how hard its been up vais ass, so i just said no thanks and walked out shaking my head.
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Old 2005-10-17, 11:07
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sorry boys, but i think 7 stringers are overrated.

it doesnt take any special skills to play it, nor do they offer much of a difference in sound.
if peeps wanna tune down a 7 stringer and ride the low Bb or whatever, or theyre gonna utilise all 7 strings and play leads as well as rhythm, well thats fine with me, i dont care.
but you gotta remember, 7 string guitars were just a fad that came in with numetal, and only a handful of peeps actually treated them or any other guitar with any respect, not that im saying anyone here isnt going to do so, but for me, theyre nothing special.

il recount this story: i was loking for a 2nd hand 7 string one day, so i check in this store, downtown music in sydney, and they had a multicoloured pink lime swirly piece of ugly ibanez shit. there was a poofter checking out the same guitar so to get in on it i ask one of the sales dudes how much, they said 3 or 4, im thinking thats alright for that shit, but i told em id have to repaint it coz im not gonna be seen playing anything as gay as that thing.
the dude walks away to check on the price and comes back saying its 10. after a moment of thinking, i ask him if he meant 10 grand, and hes says yep, and imagine the look on this fags face when i yelled out, "who the fucks gonna fork out ten grand for that piece of gay shit?!".
the dude then starts his monotribe on how limited edition it is and how hard its been up vais ass, so i just said no thanks and walked out shaking my head.


This has been discussed before, so once again when you own one then comment on it. Until then & i think i speak for alot of people in saying that you really dont know what your talking about. The things that are possible with a 7-string are seemingly endless.
 
Old 2005-10-17, 11:09
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There was definately a 7 on Covenant on a few songs, but some others were in Eb on a 6string. 7-strings were used on Domination and a few tracks on Gateways, but FFtF was completely in Eb, as well as Heretic. 7's weren't used quite as much as you say they are.

Trust me, I'm extremely familiar with all of Morbid Angel's material. *hides his uberkvult-grim-as-fvck demo and rehearsal tapes* Back off, I say!


You do know that in Bb on a 7 the rest of the strings are in Eb
 
Old 2005-10-17, 12:56
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Why is it that what bands you listen to, or your skill level for that matter, should be reasons to buy/not buy a seven string?? Get it if you want the extra notes, chord possibilities and such like I did, otherwise, get a six. I own both types and use them for different things.
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Old 2005-10-17, 13:34
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Why is it that what bands you listen to, or your skill level for that matter, should be reasons to buy/not buy a seven string?? Get it if you want the extra notes, chord possibilities and such like I did, otherwise, get a six. I own both types and use them for different things.


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Old 2005-10-17, 18:18
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There was definately a 7 on Covenant on a few songs, but some others were in Eb on a 6string. 7-strings were used on Domination and a few tracks on Gateways, but FFtF was completely in Eb, as well as Heretic. 7's weren't used quite as much as you say they are.

Trust me, I'm extremely familiar with all of Morbid Angel's material. *hides his uberkvult-grim-as-fvck demo and rehearsal tapes* Back off, I say!


Ah I meant to say ON Covenant AND after it. And dude, you are wrong, I am right, 7-strings are on Forumlas and are DEFINETLY on Heretic.
 
Old 2005-10-17, 23:02
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My friend has that guitar. It sounds great! The only prob is the neck is a little thick. Personally I would get this :The Hellraiser

obviously because you could just drop a EMG 81-7 in there....other than that....it is a great guitar...so get the hellraiser!!!!

I'm really not a huge emg fan. But just how thick is the neck on the schecter? and Hows the action on it? If I played the 6 string version would it be close enough to judge the 7 string version?
 
Old 2005-10-17, 23:31
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I've never played the 6 string version, but I guess you could say the neck is slightly thicker than a wizard neck...well...maybe more. Its hard to judge because I haven't played it in years. (2-3)

The action was great though. It really is a nice guitar. I'll put it this way. If I didn't have my Ran ( ) than I would own that guitar.
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Old 2005-10-18, 00:34
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Good to hear it. I'm sort of in a rush to find out info because I'm trying to decide between the schecter 7 string, a parker 6 string or a new amp.
 
Old 2005-10-18, 03:57
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This has been discussed before, so once again when you own one then comment on it. Until then & i think i speak for alot of people in saying that you really dont know what your talking about. The things that are possible with a 7-string are seemingly endless.


im not having a go at peeps who like 7 strings, im saying theyre overrated as are almost all guitars. theyre just instruments.

i have owned 2 7 strings in various states of modification/disrepair, a squire and a fixed bridge ibanez. ive played jacksons, ESPs and an ibanez with trem.
they were nice guitars.

i know exactly what i am talking about.

i will also stand by my statement that 7 string guitars are overrated.
i also dont need a 7 string (unlike some peeps) to be creative.

i have one 6 string guitar tuned in 5ths. low E is octave below standard and the high Eb is half step down on a normal tuning. there! more range than meshuggahs 8 strings. isnt this what you would call versatility?

anyways, i did not intend to bash peeps for liking and owning 7 strings, even if my post may have been easily misunderstood as such.

thats my thoughts.
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Old 2005-10-19, 04:41
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Does anyone know appx. how much it might cost to drop a floyd in a 7 string? I'm considering instead of the Schecter just getting one of those $200 Washburns and suping it up.
 
Old 2005-10-19, 05:22
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ehhhhh...why buy a shit guitar and modify it......I am missing this point of view.....if you must.
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Old 2005-10-19, 16:30
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Well from what I've heard its a fairly decent guitar and I'm trying to find out if it would be less expensive to spice up the Washburn or just get the schecter.
 
Old 2005-10-19, 21:02
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I was thinking about getting the C-7 Blackjack.
Does anyone here own or can they give me some input?
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Old 2005-10-19, 23:41
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Old 2005-10-20, 08:46
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Well from what I've heard its a fairly decent guitar and I'm trying to find out if it would be less expensive to spice up the Washburn or just get the schecter.


Get the Schecter dude youll be more happy with it. Youll just need to change the pickups
 
Old 2005-10-21, 08:13
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Get the Schecter dude youll be more happy with it. Youll just need to change the pickups

But why? I like SD's.
 
Old 2005-10-21, 08:54
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But why? I like SD's.


Because their not real Seymour Duncans, they are Duncan Designed. In other words a shitty version of SD's. I had them in my Schecter A-7 & they sounded like shit. I highly recommend the EMG 707, i recently had one put in my Ibanez 7-string & its sounds fuckin incredible.
 
Old 2005-10-21, 15:00
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On the C-7 it says that it has a Seymore duncan JB and '59.
 
Old 2005-10-21, 15:43
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On the C-7 it says that it has a Seymore duncan JB and '59.


It thought you ment the C-7 Diamond series. All the the Diamond series come with those cheap Duncan Designed ones.
 
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