hey,
i wanna start to learn and play the really fast slayer solos which are on reign in blood, in particular, angel of death.

but i just wanted to know what kinds of excercises and what kind of things i would have to do to build up strenght and speed and help me to be able to pull them off.

thank you very much, any help is greatly appreciated

p.s. who here can play the solos from reign in blood or angel of death?

learn to trem pick all over the strings. Sloppy execution, but hey, its Slayer...

You should prob wait for a serios reply (r u serios? u canot b serios...)

Slayer's solos don't follow any sort of conventional scale structure, just learn their solos, and practice them s l o w l y. They are excercises unto themselves.

trempick on everystring as fast as u can.. duh
also, ur fretting hand, just play whatever paters up and down, just to get ur fingers flexible to get that kinda speeds done.

or u could practice some hate eternal licks from solos, that rutan guy is extremely fast, im busy on the beyond redemption tab, and the start of the solo i very fast

anyway, trempicking, and flexible fingers thats all i guess

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Also learn the diminished scale. Slayer uses that quite a bit.

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Not to seem like an arsehole... But slayer generally isn't good to learn as your first few solos etc, with the exception of a couple like Mandatory Suicide. They're sometimes quite technically demanding if you're starting out, but the biggest drawback is that their playing style and musical value won't benefit and enhance your playing greatly due tot he lack of 'theory' behind them, you may struggle to develop a feel for lead work...

Get up your picking by practicing pedalled scales with alternate picking:

0-4-0-5-0-7-0-8-0-10-0-12

etc

Hope that heklps

You could have searched.....

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I hope you've got a wammy bar!

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yeah there are already 609093048937492834 billion threads on this. And they all ended saying "use the search"

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You thread moderation nazis will be sorry when the day comes that people ONLY search and the forum becomes extinct

and when that day comes you will be the first to be cannibalized.

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you know, i could have sworn it was just random atonal shred, and had nothing to do with scales and shit

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Kerry King has said it himself.

hahaha, well said.

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Just buy the Tab Book for Reign In Blood and practice everything really, really S L O W. That´s the key to be able to play fast, play slow (WTF). But it works. It really does. But I also don´t think Slayer solos is the best thing to start out ewith. Try Metallica solos, they´re kinda easy. But to get a good speed You should just try to learn scales, arpeggios and just practice very slowly. I usualy warm up with:
E: 5 6 7 8
A: 5 6 7 8
D: 5 6 7 8
G: 5 6 7 8
B: 5 6 7 8
E: 5 6 7 8
and back
E: 9 8 7 6
B: 9 8 7 6
G: 9 8 7 6
D: 9 8 7 6
A: 9 8 7 6
E: 9 8 7 6

And for my right hand (outside picking):
E: 5 6 7
A: 5 6 7
D: 5 6 7
G: 5 6 7
B: 5 6 7
E: 5 6 7
and back
E: 8 7 6
B: 8 7 6
G: 8 7 6
D: 8 7 6
A: 8 7 6
E: 8 7 6

or this one:
E:7 6 5 5 6 7 6 5
B: 7 7 6 5 7 6 5 5 6 7 6 5
G: 7 7 6 5 7 6 5 5 6 7 6 5 D: 7 7 6 5 7 6 5
A: 7 (and so on..)
E:

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hahahaha u cant be serious...... kerry and jeff cant even play exactly what they played in that solo...... they improvise almost all their solos.

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Jeff does but Kerry don´t. I read an interview with K.K (it was 94) and he said that "he´s pretty close". Jeff does some of his solos just as on the records but I don´t think he can do it no more or he just don´t give a fuck now days. The solos on Mandatory Suicide and Seasons In the Abyss for exemple they are not at all like the ones Jeff did on the records.

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thanks for the tips turbo rico, can you play any of the slayer solos, if so, which ones?

o yea, how long you been playing for?

cheers
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Did you look at learning at mandatory suicide? It's a bit cheesy with the pentatonic stuff, but once you get the feel of it try to play it more in the style of Decapitated etc... I'll try to doa recording to show how I mean once this bastard RSI has calmed down

I can play (only Kerry King´s solos) the solo in War Ensamble, Dittohead, Hallowed Point, Dead Skin Mask, South of Heaven and I gonna try to learn some other solos from Divine Intervention and Seasons In the Abyss. Kerry King did the best solos on those 2 albums, IMO.

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honestly...... i didnt understand what the fuck u just typed....... what the fuck are u trying to say here?..... "Jeff does some of his solos just as on the records but I don´t think he can do it no more or he just don´t give a fuck now days. The solos on Mandatory Suicide and Seasons In the Abyss for exemple they are not at all like the ones Jeff did on the records."....... What?

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He has a rough grasp on the english language. Or hes drunk

Lmao! probably a bit of both

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Ok, now I´m sober...
Jeff improvises his solos live now days. Kerry King don´t. I don´t think Jeff can play his old solos anymore, not all of them. Kerry King plays his solos exatly the same live as he did on the records. That´s what he mean with "pretty close". Hope You understand what I mean...??

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ok yeah i get ya now.... haha thanks for clearing that up..... either way, you have to laugh at the fact that this guy wants to learn the angel of death solo.... haha

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To start out with Slayer solos might get ya in trouble. I wouldn´t do that. Learn the basic scales first. That is my advice. And play everything SLOW!

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The solo in Seasons in the Abyss was the first solo I EVER learned, and it wasn't that hard for me really, you just gotta get the feel of it with the picking hand.... Learning Slayer was a major turning point for my guitar playing, it made me SOO much better at the instrument, not to mention most Slayer is really fun to play!.. Makes you strong with your picking hand at least, but so do other things...

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what scales should i learn and practice?



why is that funny?

I don´t know what they called in english but in swedish they called church scales. That´s the usual C-sharp and A-minor. ( I think it´s called C-charp).
It´s 7 different fingersettings, not 7 different scales, C-sharp is the same scale as A-minor, just in unother place on the fretboard. You see what I mean? I´ll give You an example:

E: 3 5 7
B: 3 5 6
G: 2 4 5
D: 2 3 5
A: 2 3 5
E: 1 3 5

E: 5 7 8
B: 5 6 8
G: 4 5 7
D: 3 5 7
A: 3 5 7
E: 3 5 7

E: 7 8 10
B: 6 8 10
G: 5 7 9
D: 5 7 9
A: 5 7 8
E: 5 7 8

E: 8 10 12
B: 8 10 12
G: 7 9 10
D: 7 9 10
A: 7 8 10
E: 7 8 10

E: 10 12 13
B: 10 12 13
G: 9 10 12
D: 9 10 12
A: 8 10 12
E: 8 10 12

E: 12 13 15
B: 12 13 15
G: 10 12 14
D: 10 12 14
A: 10 12 14
E: 10 12 13

E: 13 15 17
B: 13 15 17
G: 12 14 16
D: 12 13 15
A: 12 14 15
E: 12 13 15

Start with these

And than You got Your Yngwie scale A-minor harmonic:

E: 7 8 10
B: 6 9 10
G: 5 7 9
D: 6 7 9
A: 5 7 8
E: 5 7 8

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your a fucking dickhead, go kill yourself

btw, the way, thank you turborico for the tips

Ghessh man!!! Lay of frodo!

lol, i'l fucking smeagol his ass

except dont dance like an idiot and fall in some lava...that would probably sting a little

No problemas, dude!

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oya, i forgot to ask you, have you got your all black V guitar? your custom? like has it arrived?

if so, have you got any pics of it?

edit: im doing about 180bpm on the chromatic scale, will that help me nail the slayer solos?

I got one US Custom KKV Tribe with Kahler. One Swedish Custom KKV all black and one Ran Guitars Urban Camo KKV Custom. So just one black. I got pics of all guitars and my rig pretty soon...
180 bpm is kinda good. But try all scales and when You nail them at 200 bpm You should be good to go. I can play 200 bpm and I can play most of Slayer´s solos. But it´s more to it than just be able to do the chromatic scale, try them all...

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sweet thanks for the help, be sure to let me know when you get those photos of your gear, i wanna closer look at the all black V and the BC rich kkv.

btw, did you order the kkv tribe from the bc rich custom shop, or was it just ready made in a store?

I bought it from a guy called "SOMD" in Germany. He bought when he was at NAMM-99 and it´s signed by Kerry King and Bernie Rico. The guitar is petty badass!

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This riff did wonders for me... start slowly and get it up to speed, 16ths at about 175-190 ish

E|--------------------------|
B|---------------------------|
G|------------12-------------|
D|--13-14-16-----16-14-13---|
A|---------------------------|
E|---------------------------|

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