Now that I have enough money for one of the following which one should I order? I like the Washburn because its cheaper but it is made out of alder. I also like the Ibanez because its made out of basswood but is more expensive. Both of these guitars seem to have gotten good reviews but I just thought that I would pass it over with the everyone here to see if they could point me in the right direction. Thanks alot.

Alder is a great wood, if you're worried about that.
I bet JH will give a good word to the Washburn, because I think he owns the one you're thinking of.
The Ibanez is a pretty safe bet too.

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Sorry I not only forgot to add links but I forgot names aswell.
Washburn WG587:
http://www.music123.com/Washburn-WG587-i20396.music
Ibanez RG 7321:
http://www.music123.com/Ibanez-RG7321-i27059.music

Definitly the Ibanez

that Washburn is definetely a good guitar.
but so is the Ibanez. But seems everybody and their mom has an Ibanez, you know.
I'd get the Washburn.

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I had a Ibanez 7 string years back . Hated it , If I ever was going to get another 7 string which is doubtful .A schecter kills the Ibanez IMHO just felt a hell of alot better.

Why not get a baritone if you want to tune down. Alot of guys dont realize if you play a 7 string you almost have to just play the 7 string because it feels so different than the regular 6 string. and most fuckers have a hard enough time mastering the 6 string.

In this case the Ibanez is clearly the more superior guitar

As far as 7-strings go (from a factory) I have good experiences with the Schecter Blackjack series. My homie has one, and its a 26.5" scale with duncans....I'll post a link.

Other than that, this is a nice find: Ibanez RG 7620

I've heard BLS vouch for these on a few occasions, and besides that, they aren't bad guitars.

My bandmate has this: Schecter C-7 BlackJack As you can see it comes with Duncan
's, and is a very nice guitar...not bad at all.

IF I were to get a Schec' though, I would get this one:C-7 Hellraiser , just due to the fact it is already spaced for EMG's (even though they are 707's) you could just drop in a 81-7...and be set.

Also they are set-neck's too.....kills a bolt-on IMO.

Last but not least, if you feel like throwing down some money....you could get this:Universe
I STILL want one of these to this day.....great playing guitars. Not just some thrown together piece...lol

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If you want a universe so much you may want to attempt bidding on this one I've had my eye on it for the past few days now and since I'm not allowed to bid on ebay I figured I might as well let you guys have a stab at it if you don't think its in too bad of shape.


Shit again I forgot to post the link
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Ibanez-UV777-7-S...1QQcmdZViewItem

That would not be smart.....first of all the guitar is not in his possesion, and second of all that is the factory pic of the guitar.....which would make that a dumb move.

Why buy something you have no idea of what it looks like?

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Yea I sorta figured as much but I didn't know if you guys with more ebay experience would think so as well. But really all ebay is a gamble its just that some are higher in risk than others.

Everything that ive ever bought from ebay went pretty well... but ive never attempted 2 buy an instrument ... I wouldnt take the chance on that one

I don't really like barritones because i still want to have the standard tuning not b standard, barritones always mess with my head, also I like the high e string.

not by much, considering the price.
Its personal preference anyways on guitars like this.
I know I'd like the Washburn more because I simply dont like the feel of Wizard necks but a lot of people do.

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I'm not crazy about the way wizard necks feel but i was playing an ltd viper 7 string and it had a wizard-ish neck so I'm just wondering if the washburn neck will be like this too?

On my washburn guitar, the neck isn't as thin as a wizard, but it is a little thinner than a standard neck, I think.
I think you would like the Washburn neck. John Holland should see this thread, becaue I know he has the washburn and likes it a lot.

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Yea I've got a Washburn 6 string and couldn't be more happy with it. It is sort of a jackson/ibanez shape. I was just wondering if they would thin it out for the 7 string model because theres that much more reach because thats what they did with the viper I played.

Hi!

I had an Schecter blackjack c7 and didn´t like it.(its a 7 string guitar and is also a baritone, i assume) The neck is very thick, and the sounding isn´t that good (I know it has SD, s) .I prefer any 7 string guitar, included any BC Rich model (because the neck).

Washburn looks nice and "cheap".

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The Washburn WG587 is a great guitar. It made me forget all about my Schecter C-1 Classic ( save for the stock electronics, but those can be changed out of course ).


What's happened is that some time ago Washburn made their mid-level 'flagship' seven string guitar, it has a list price of $999.99 and it sold for $600.00 or so in Musicians Friend, AMS, Samash, what have you. For one reason or another they were discontinued, and Music123 has all the remaining stock. Now they are being sold for 200$.

The alder body is light and adds clarity, the neck is flat, with a Buzz Feiten tuning system. It puts the intonation and action on my Schecter to absolute shame. You're probably thinking, "Wow, a cheap guitar can --- " Well, its not a 'cheap' guitar. It was made to be the Washburn seven string, to compete with Ibanez and Schecter's middle-high end models. Right now its the greatest anomaly of the mainstream guitar market I can think of.


If you click on my links in my sig, the Myspace one, you can hear it in action.

Don't forget Carvin guitars, I hear good things about them and they look mighty fine.

id say this first:

make sure your buying a seven string for the right reason. if you only plan on playing the 2 bass strings then buy a baritone instead, or tune your regular guitar to something like C. Theres no point having 7 strings if you dont use em.

Ive got an old ltd ESP M-207 (lefty) and its pretty cool, bar the "duncan designed" pickups..ergh. a few of you were saying dont use ebay etc - ive dealt with ebay a lot and have very little hassle. in fact ive had my first hassler a few weeks back when i bought a 150w warhead combo. doesnt matter tho, got my money back and bought another which ill get in like 4 days.

anyway, i got my esp for like $300 and its a damn nice find. if i bought the same guitar in the UK id be looking at £499 (nearly $1000). and my other 6 string ESP (handmade) was only $500 and its worth about £800 ($1700). you can get some well amazing deals on ebay if you look.


id go for the ibanez, the washburn is rediculously overpriced in that original estimate - $949...ive seen serveral on ebay for $279 new so it was never,ever $949. at least what ive seen of the ibanez is near to the price theyve actually listed it at, so it must be worth it at least. altho me personally, id go for an ESP. expensive, but they are nice to play. you could alwyas buy a cheapish guitar like the washburn and spend money on decent pickups...

No, no, no, no, no, and no. You see, I know this is a great guitar, because I own it.




http://www.music123.com/search/?src=Washburn+WG587

I think its all just personal preference & how much cash you wanna spend

jesus, 80% discount!

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i stand corrected then

Anyone know an abundant source of lefties, including and beyond Schecter?

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haha or get the jem uv777 wich costs an unbeleiveable amound of money. i think..

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Yea, Carvins are great, but expensive as fuck.
From what I hear, Ibanez makes really good 7-strings.

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Thank you for all of your help. I think I'm gonna go with the Washburn. After hearing how much you like it John. Plus the price is right and don't worry I'm not just gonna be playing on the B and E (to whoever was concerned about buying it for 'the wrong reason') I want to do some gosh darned 7 string sweeps on this bad boy.

Just curious though what would be my best option for 7 string pickups? Evo 7's perhaps?

Dimarzio blaze or evo depending on preference, EMG if you want hack up your guitar

I don't really like emgs on a 7 string I played one with them and it sounded really muddy. What kind of sound would each of these pickups give me?

you could try some seympour duncan distortion ones,theyre supposed to sound pretty cool in the 7 string vairety, and they aint that heavy $$ wise.

or try what i did and ask the custom shop for 7 string variaties of dimebuckers, for $325 each..not to say that i bought them....i might eventually...they do diablo pickups like what the dude from anthrax uses also....a 7 string one of them would be horrendous $$ tho

they do any seymour pickup you want for a 7 string if you ask them. it can take up to 2 weeks to make them mind...:/

7 string sweeps? nice. you must be pretty damn good.....

not really. I just want to try something new.

Dimarzio is the way to go man

What kind of EMG?

EDIT: .....haha....I'm a postwhore now. Only took a year

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81-7 bridge and 707 neck.


yea but what type of Dimarzios is the question at hand?

Either the 7-string Blaze or Evolution

www.dimarzio.com Click the 7-string icon on the bottom right, select a pickup it tells you all about them.

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Make sure you don't overlook Seymour Duncan ( not sure if its possible to do that ). Their two most popular seven string models :

The seven string Invader pickup looks tempting, but don't try it with a mahogany or basswood body seven string unless you're prepared to deal with gobs of unmanagable low end.

The JB is a very clear and articulate pickup that seems to work with whatever its put in, and in all scenarios its going to oust the Invader in terms of clarity. And for something with an alcino magnet, its dreadfully hot.

What kind of pickups do you have in your washburn john?

Right now stock pickups, but I'm about to have a JB in the bridge of my Washburn.

To compare it to the EMG 81 --- the JB has just has much harmonics. The 81 is slightly tighter, but the JB makes complex chords ring out very, very distinctly. Throw the most dissonant chord you can at it, and you'll hear every note. Which is why its a candidate for 'best seven string pup of all time'.

Do you have any pics of yours by any chance?
Sorry for all the trouble I just don't really like the pics they've got on 123 and other websites.

...please?

Ah, I just now checked this thread ....


I'll have pictures of it soon. My JB arrived too, which means I'll be doing some work on it.

theres a reason "everybody and their mom play ibanez" ... im holding my 7 string right now and i absolutly love it i want to update the pickups to emg 7's

if you havn't decided yet definatly go with whatever feels best to you... becaues at the end of the day your the one playing it .... overal id say ( and im over half biased) ibanez takes the cake on 7 strings i dont know how many washburn 7 stringers there are out there if any.... and to the guy who said people dont master a 6 string so why buy a 7 ... i have this ... nobody has ever mastered a 6 string and nobody will master a 7 string or an 8 10 12 14 w/e number of strings gets put on a guitar theres always something to learn even if its a stupid completely preschool level thing its something to learn ... and learning on any instrument never stops. i got my seven because of korn i'll admit that and i dont regret it but i've grown so attached to 7 and i got back on 6 just as fast it doesn't take forever if you just do it ... so again do what you feel is best its your guitar at the end of the day dont listen to the cracks and jokes n'shit alright ... later

i dont like Ibanez 7s, although ive never played a Universe, nor seen one, i preffer Schecters (damn ive been saying that alot today)

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I would love to have a conversation with the guy that decided to house the EMG 7-string pickups in a bass housing so you have to cut your guitar. Ive used nothing but EMG's in my 6-strings & now i cant in my 7-string because im not chopping up my guitar, & i know im not alone in this matter. Dimarzio must have cashed in on aftermarket 7-string pickups due to EMG's stupidity. And as for Ibanez 7-strings you need to get the right model. The cheaper Ibanez 7-strings are garbage, ive owned a couple of them & they were all shit. I bought a Schecter A-7 & couldnt be more happy with it.

IMHO schecter owns Ibanez 7 strings

Well I know for sure that I'm not getting an Ibanez. I've decided that a long time ago.

Damn, I have'nt got a hold of a camera yet.



Just buy the Washburn WG587, and install humbuckers with lots of bass ( like an Invader or something ) and you'll like it.

The intonation on it puts my Schecter to shame! And if you don't like it you can always send it back.

You know intonation can be adjusted John

I did adjust the intonation on the Schecter. The Schecter's was good ... but the Washburn has a Buzz Feiten tuning system. Whereas the the Schecter is good, the Washburn is perfect.

What Schecter model is it?

C-1 Classic

What about this thing: http://www.rondomusic.net/interceptor.html for a good price/quality ratio?

I should have bought that guitar ... Agile makes very good instruments for the price.

Get it.

The C-1 Classic 6-string is totally different than the C-7 or A-7 Diamonds. No disrespect but i really couldnt understand why you would think that Washburn made a better 7-string than Schecter, but now i understand.

Ok I am very strongly considering ordering the agile so I must ask before I do should I get the agile or the washburn?
I REALLY like that the agile has coil taps but how much would I have to shell out to get coil taps in the Washburn?
Also could I install a Buzz Fietzen in the agile? If so how much would that cost?

A Buzz Feiten system costs about 200$ to install ... and it might cost about 30$ to have a coil tap installed on humbuckers that can do it.

Can the JB and 59 coil tap?

I don't think the JB can coil tap ...

Ok I was just curious because I really like coil taps. So anyway would you recommend the agile over the washburn or vice-versa?

Selling my Schecter A-7 Diamond series on ebay right now just incase you or anybody else are interested.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Schecter-A-7-Di...1QQcmdZViewItem

I recommend the Agile, if you have the money.

Thanks for the heads up man but I'm not allowed to buy stuff off of ebay.
By the way didn't you just fix that thing up?

Ya but i need to get some urgent quick cash. It truly is a shame, i love that guitar & DONT want to sell it, but you gotta do what you gotta do when the shit hits the fan i guess.

Thats pretty shitty man.

Ya it is

none 7 string sucks ,Most of these cats have a hard enough time playing 6 string , If you are a Steve Vai or a Jeff Loomis fine but you want to down tune to ZZZ , Learn to play with 6 string first . but as far as 7 string guitars go I think the schecter is a nice taste
and before you flameball me I was being tongue in cheek about the beginning.

Well the thing is I really dislike tuning down my guitars and I don't like playing barritones. So I figured this way I could have the low tunings without compromising tuning and if I want to tune to say a d or a c standard then i can just slap a capo on there, tune my g string down a half-step and my b string up a half-step and I'm pretty much good to go aside from readjusting to where all the notes are. Or something like that I just got the idea and I'm just thinking about whether it would work or not right now.

nevermind I would just tune up the g string a half step. wouldn't I?

I'd go with the Washburn.

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