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Old 2005-09-08, 11:41
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Inntonation help!

Can someone explain or point me in the right direction for adjusting inntonation? Maybe its just personal preference or will not knowing what your doing drasticlly make the guitar sound terrible? I want the strings low as possible without loosing any frets. I noticed most bridges inntonation go in a certain line from low to high, what i mean is it starts low on the low string & looks raised through each string. Now do you have to do it like that or can you just have the height where ever you want. For the 1st time in 11 years im attempting this lol!
 
Old 2005-09-08, 12:54
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Old 2005-09-08, 15:03
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Thanks Garr
 
Old 2005-09-08, 15:15
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Sounds more like you are refering to the height of the action?
I like the action as low as possible. All I do is lower it as much as it will go without getting dead areas on the fret board. I also make sure dead areas aren't created when bending strings.

As for intonation. Play a harmonic on the 12th fret whilst plugged in to your tuner. If your guitar is tuned it should show the harmonic note the same as the open string note. Now fret the 12th fret, that should also show up the same as the harmonic and the open string. If it isn't you will have to adjust the individual saddle back or forwards to lenghten or shorten the string to bring all the notes in line. It's all to do with neck scale lenghts or something.
 
Old 2005-09-08, 15:23
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Sounds more like you are refering to the height of the action?
I like the action as low as possible. All I do is lower it as much as it will go without getting dead areas on the fret board. I also make sure dead areas aren't created when bending strings.

As for intonation. Play a harmonic on the 12th fret whilst plugged in to your tuner. If your guitar is tuned it should show the harmonic note the same as the open string note. Now fret the 12th fret, that should also show up the same as the harmonic and the open string. If it isn't you will have to adjust the individual saddle back or forwards to lenghten or shorten the string to bring all the notes in line. It's all to do with neck scale lenghts or something.


hey

what does it mean when all my strings are in perfect tune
but when i play some notes on the g b and e string it sound completley out of tune from the 12th up or when i do an octave chord
does that mean ive got intonation prblems.

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--(14)------------------------------------------
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--12--------------------------------------------
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the note ive circled is the one thats completley flat
and the other note the 12 is in perfect tune.
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Old 2005-09-08, 15:57
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Could very well be old chap.
Has it always been like that? I once had a dud string that sounded out the further I went up the fret board. I went through all sorts of recommended actions until I decided to change it and the problem was eradicated!
 
Old 2005-09-08, 20:49
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Could very well be old chap.
Has it always been like that? I once had a dud string that sounded out the further I went up the fret board. I went through all sorts of recommended actions until I decided to change it and the problem was eradicated!



its like it when ive got the same strings on for a long time
but as soon as i replace em with new ones it goes perfect again
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Old 2005-09-08, 21:46
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Sounds more like you are refering to the height of the action?
I like the action as low as possible. All I do is lower it as much as it will go without getting dead areas on the fret board. I also make sure dead areas aren't created when bending strings.

As for intonation. Play a harmonic on the 12th fret whilst plugged in to your tuner. If your guitar is tuned it should show the harmonic note the same as the open string note. Now fret the 12th fret, that should also show up the same as the harmonic and the open string. If it isn't you will have to adjust the individual saddle back or forwards to lenghten or shorten the string to bring all the notes in line. It's all to do with neck scale lenghts or something.


Well ya i wanted to adjust both intonation & height
 
Old 2005-09-11, 08:18
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hey

what does it mean when all my strings are in perfect tune
but when i play some notes on the g b and e string it sound completley out of tune from the 12th up or when i do an octave chord
does that mean ive got intonation prblems.

------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------
--(14)------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------
--12--------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------

the note ive circled is the one thats completley flat
and the other note the 12 is in perfect tune.


Than your strings are not in perfect tune. They have an intonation problem. Basically to remedy this problem 1. hit an open note and tune it to the correct pitch 2. fret the 12th fret or hit an harmonic on the 12th fret. If the 12th fret note is flat or sharp precede to step 3, if not you don't have an intonation problem. 3. If the note is sharp turn the saddle (where your string lies in) counter clockwise (away from the pickup and fretboard) than tune the open string once again and check the 12th fret. Keep doing this until they are the same note. If the note is flat do the vice versa. Turn the saddle clockwise (to the pickup and fretboard). Than check to see if the open note is the same as the fretted 12th note. Keep doing those adjustments until you get the notes as close as possible. It is very easy to do.

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