I had my first shit of the week today and my gravy ring felt exactly the same.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l...th/DSCN0061.jpg

My supplement stack..just got the mitotropin(fat burner) and caffeine pills in the mail today. I'm curious in seeing the results from the fat burner..it was also buy 2 get one free or else I would have just bought one. I have not used one in the past and had money to blow, so why not.

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Creatine
You smell like a horses butthole out of your mouth and your shit is almost liquid. Just to get some muscles? Weird man. Totally weird.

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haha What?? I don't know what creatine you've experienced..

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I onlyknow of some people who took creatine and now they have water in their muscles, small balls, deadly-stinky-mouth-gases and liquidized shit. I`d rather take steroids

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haha. No. The only partly true statement of what you said could be about the gas(from your ass..not bad breath), but it would not be caused by creatine..but by a high protein diet.

Get new friends.

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Hey I`m happy I have friends........ok one friend.....

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Gomli you are so grossly misinformed that if you were here, i'd smack you in the fuckin head

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haha I know eh.

http://www.realfreewebsites.com/blog/img/fail2.jpg

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haha nice pic

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wtf? roids over creatine? creatine is harmless. It does increase water retention though, not really a bad thing

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I just drink whey protein...I cannot for the life of me get creatine mix down without feeling sick on the stomach.

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take kre-alkyline pills. They're PH-balancing creatine pills to prevent the bloating and upset stomach. They dont break down into the waste product creatinine

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Pr0az probably had some shit quality creatine...I didn't really feel much in the stomach when I used to take it.

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Kre-alkaline doesn't have any ground to back up its claims. I've read scientific articles posted in the bodybuilding.com forums which state it has had no effect on strength/muscle volume. Creatine monohydrate has been around for a long time and has been clinically tested to death. It works and it's cheap. These 'designer' creatines are pretty much useless and a waste of money. They are built on marketing hype.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y43z6UTXFi4

This guy knows his shit.

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How much did you spend on all that shit BB? All I take now is Whey Protein and it's not the isolated kind you have, or is that just a brand name? What else would you recommend adding?

Should I purchase a work bench from Wal-Mart of save up for a better one?

Any dumbell exercise tips? I'm a noob here.

You probably don't need anything more than whey to be honest. The best thing to do is eat 3 meals a day with lots of carbs and protein, and whole milk also works good.

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I agree.

Req, its all about dedication to the weights really and a good healthy diet. In one week if I actually do the following i can see muscle gain.

1. Eat healthy
a. Breakfast(Grits, Eggs, Bacon, and maybe some fruit)
b. Lunch(Something high in protein(Tuna,Chicken..) and fruit)
c. Supper, which I'm awful for skipping(About the same as lunch)
d. If your working out hard drink a whey protein shake 1-2 times a day
2. Sleep
a. Try not to take naps during the day stay busy and productive
b. Try to get around 8-9 hours of sleep a night, especially when working
out hard.
3. Back off bad habits
a. Drinking alcohol, this can cause you to be dehydrated and not feel so
well the next day, in turn causing you to really loose the drive to work
out the following evening. Me i piss out way too much b12 when I drink,
feel worse than the average bear the day after.
b. Smoking, Told by a doc smoking can cause you to have tired stages
through out the day.
4. Hot bath
a. I've heard and never really known the truth about this, but if you take
a really hot bath after working out and sit in it for awhile a "more" percentage gain in muscle mass takes place.

5. Do not only concentrate on free weights. Build CORE STRENGTH
a. Do push ups, try for about 100 a day/build up to that.
b. Do pull ups, try for about 25-50 a day/build up to that.(push ups will actually help you do more pull ups)

I've seen guys who can lift 450-500 pounds and can't do twenty push ups they lack core strength.

6. Dedication
a. word explains it self.

Also don't work out alone, its especially good to get in with people who are already lifting more than you. Trust me jumping in groups who are lifting way more at first will put you to shame, but guess what, it will make you sorta thrive to be lifting the same as the people around you. I've know this from self experience.

Correct me if I'm wrong about anything guys.

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Ah ok probably we were talking about different types of creatin fuckaaa!

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agreed, especially on this last part. I ignored that stuff for a long time. Also keep up with the cardio on off days.

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haha no dude, there is NO kind of creatine that does what you said. Sorry buddy.



I stepped up the weight yesterday a bit to push the arm and see how it holds up. 80lb dumbbells on flat bench for 22 reps with minimal pain. Next week I'll see how 90's hold up. Maybe 100's if i'm feeling spunky.

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FUCK

You're like 4 times the man I am.

Now don't get cocky Req.

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Well, multivitamins, Vitamin C, fish oil, caffeine pills and creatine are all pretty cheap. The extra stuff you really don't need can be expensive. Like I said, I only bought the fat burners because they were buy 2 get one free($91 total). Your body type is very different from mine. In order for you to put on size, you need to eat basically everything you see. What I'd recommend for you will mainly just help your overall health. A cheap Multivitamin(preferably for men) and fish oil capsules. Whey protein is a fast, reliable way to reach your daily protein needs and creatine, which is abundant in red meats, will assist in strength and muscle growth. Drink lots of water(gallon a day) and get lots of rest. And from what Proaz said, you can take naps. There is nothing wrong with a quick nap.

Whey protein isolate is just a more pure form of normal whey protein, which is usually a blend of protein concentrate, isolate, casein, etc. It doesn't really matter if it's a blend or isolate, it's all protein. Consuming at least 1g of protein: 1 lbs of body weight is a recommended daily value. I'm around 185lbs now, so I try to get at least 185-200g of protein daily. I drink two protein shakes a day(one after a workout, one before bed), both of which had approx. 50g each(normally two scoops of protein).

If you're serious about working out, I'd advise getting a gym membership. There are lots of different exercises you can do with dumbells(bench press, flys, military press, various bicep curls, tricep kickbacks, tricep extensions, shurgs, shoulder raises, etc, etc) However, you will not be able to get a full body workout from a dumbell set..especially working out your legs.

Hope that helps. The internet can be a great tool for information as well..however, there are many bodybuilding forums with guys that have no idea what the fuck the are talking about. I've been working out for almost 7 years so I'd hope I have some credibility. ha! Cheers.

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I really appreciate the advice BB. Now when you say eat everything I see does that still mean avoid saturated fats? Is there anything else I should avoid? I was reading that I shouldn't eat red meats.

I won't be getting a gym membership anytime soon. However, the college I go to does have a gym. I'm just scared of black people.

I meant eat everything you see calorie-wise. Due to your body type, you'e going to have to consume a lot a calories to fill out. This means plowing through McDonalds burgers semi-frequently shouldn't be much of a problem for you. Red meats are fine in moderation, especially leaner cuts such as sirloin..very high in protein and low in fat. Good fats are ideal as well. Peanut Butter and nuts such as almonds are high in protein and high in healthy fats. I make it an issue to not consume a lot of sodium.

You should check out your college gym. Don't be afraid of the black people..from my experience many of the gangsta's lift light and lack proper form, so it's always a lulz when I see that.

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just eat everything. I used to have the same body as you did. eating fast food and shit food didn't hurt me much. later on i would lay it off though, depending on how much weight you wanna gain.

just look at someone like michael phelps...eats like 13k cals a day and is skinny

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Just what ever you do never shoot up roids man.


Also get some of the B family of vitamins. I was told to put b12 under my tongue and let it dissolve for extra energy, it didn't work for me. Then i was told to do the same with b6, I truly don't know whether it's a placebo effect or what but it does give me more of a boost and sorta improves my mood. I'm doubting the placebo effect because hell i tried the b12 and felt nothing.

Also, take up boxing man...shits so fun while working out and its good cardio.

After posting what I posted earlier I'm going to follow my own advice for one week and see if I actually see a difference in appearance, since I've been so slack on it lately. I'll snap a photo tonight after working out and post it. Work out the rest of the week and let you guys judge it, maybe get some feedback then on things I should work on.

Also, can any of guys work out in AC cooled places...I can't...I don't feel like I'm doing shit unless im sweating.

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How do the fish oil capsules effect on you?
Fish oil is derived from i.e. rainbow trout right? Do you only take them because of the omega-3- fatty acids? Or for a normal diet?

Question after question

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Cod oil pills or flax oil pills are good for omegas and fighting cholesterol, too. My mom and grandma used to give me cod pills when I was kid when I took my vitamins.
There was a Polish woman on Tosh.o a minute ago that rolled a frying pan. Check it out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJug16NlqPk

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Haha you're watching that show too Funny shit! First time I saw it was tonight and I laughed my ass off.

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us Pollocks are beasts haha

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I'm 1/8th beast then

I'm going to start hitting the gym again when I finish this semester in school. I fucking owe it to myself, it's been way too long..

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just envoke the Polish within. That's the key

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I've found someone to go to the gym with me. So that's gonna help out.

You dissolve vitamins under your tounge? WTF. I understand the reason but WHY?

sounds like a myth, just eat them

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Gets in your blood stream faster.

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Man am I the only one who's super curious for the Requiem 2.0-pics?

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Doesn't sound like a myth. I'm sure shooting them up or plugging them would make them work faster and better but who would do that?

Lol

Maybe I'll post some pics.

You won't notice any difference with anyone who just made a choice like he did within a few weeks.

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Hey Req', if you can find someone to help you I heard if you powder vitamins with a mortar and pestle and then put it in a straw like a pixi-stik and stick it in your butt and have another person blow in the other end they get into your system faster. Or you can just powder it and roll it on a suppository and use it that way if you don't have a friend to do it.
Just tryin' to help. No, I won't be your friend though.

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Well as of right now heres how my upper body looks. Upper

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If you were paler and had saggier boobs you'd look like me. Minus the tattoo. You're doing good. I can't stand seeing veins popping out all over a person's body.

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Haha. Awesome.

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here's the only somewhat recent picture i have of my upper body. it's just my facebook pic so i have a weird color effect on it. it's from maybe a month ago. http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?p...cad&id=20803725

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I'd post some recent pics..but I don't want everyone fapping to them.


..I'll think about it.

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haha BB i've been secretly distributing your pics to other metaltabbers for them to fap to. But don't worry, i've been getting a good price for them. Thank you for helping pay my rent.


That pic of me was prob about a month, month and a half ago. I've gained about 10lbs since then. A good 10lbs though, not fat.

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psh... just admit it, the only reason to take pictures of yourself is for others to fap to.

unless...you like to keep them for yourself and fap to pics of yourself

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You bastard! I feel like such a whore!

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waking up at 5am to learn how to run correctly is pretty awesome. at least I know how to stop fucking myself up every time.

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http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/...Whatthefuck.jpg

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heh yeah the first sentence was sarcasm.

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BB, why is that in the fitness thread and why did I click on it?

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that's what he looks like with no shirt

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That bitch needs to work on her quads.

Pay attention. truth' said that's B'B'.

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it's amazing how different he looks since he cut his hair

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Hey, I told you I would post a new pic of myself.

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Oh...in that case:

That bitch needs to work on her quads.

Taken an hour ago.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l...th/DSCN0064.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l...th/DSCN0067.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l...th/DSCN0069.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l...th/DSCN0068.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l...th/DSCN0071.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l...th/DSCN0072.jpg

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Fuuuck you remind me of someone...Give me a second

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http://www.moonbattery.com/archives...warzenegger.jpg

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I was half afraid to click on the last one. Turn on your room light and can the flash next time and see how they turn out. If that's a possibility. You're getting some arms on ya and getting a nice taper. But my goodness, smile, would ya? lol Ya don't want to look like ya got a corn cob up your behind.

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Looking good man, in the nongayest way a guy can say it.

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haha, thanks guys!

Here is a before/after of 3 years, almost exactly.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l...moth/3years.jpg

I've been working out since 2003, but stopped for over a year and became a fat slob when I was single.

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I almost wish those pictures were of two different people so that you could both double-team me.

Not in a gay way, obviously.

You don't look as glassy eyed in the recent one either. Good for you!

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lol @ Paddy.


Glassy-eyed? haha, well I was drunk in the 'before' pic.

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got my BMI checked. 190lbs at 6.9% body fat

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6:15 mile
about 14:30 2 mile

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Well, looks like my nightly trip to youporn won't be necessary. Thanks!

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haha, thanks old pal.

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Someone's got ya beat, BassB'. And he's voicing his opinion, too. http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/...otos/Bob001.jpg http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/...otos/Bob002.jpg

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I hereby revive this thread! (for the 3 of us on here that actually work out).


Set a new personal record today. Bent-over rows at 275lbs for 5 reps. Aw yeah. Not bad for barely pushing 200lbs bodyweight at 6'2".

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most I ever got for barbell rows was 205lbs sets of 12-15 reps, I don't even bother with that shit anymore. Usually just do a nice light weight of ~165 20-30 reps, followed by pullups. I haven't even bothered to weigh myself in the longest time, mass isn't my biggest concern anymore as overall speed and strength since I have been preparing for the Army over the past few months.

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Nice arms. Ever heard of a barbell?

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Why yes, I have.

Why don't you post some pics girlyman?


edit - I post some new pics soon..those older ones were from xmas, when I was 15lbs lighter.

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here's a pic from a few months ago. I like to think I'm in better shape now, but it doesn't really matter cause you can't see anything in the pic except my bicep and how hairy i am. Everything else is blurry. Oh well, somethin for Paddy to touch himself to.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/...7a7ff2184b7.jpg

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You look like someone Jason Bourne should be trying to get away from.

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Let`s fight

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Well hello sexy beast.

..taken like 5 minutes ago.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l...th/DSCN0074.jpg

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Damn dude, you did bulk up a bit since those last pics. Your right arm is noticeably bigger than your left lol

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haha thanks. It's not really bigger, just has a higher peak on the bicep. I've trained my left one a lot, but it's always a battle trying to keep them equal. Also, I'm not a pro at flexing lol.

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haha yeah. Mine are shaped different too. One is taller and one is wider. I thought maybe it was from breaking the arm, which drastically changed the shape of my tricep, but that's cause i had surgery and they separated the muscle, so my right tricep is flat at the bottom because there's actually no muscle there, just the plate, and it bulges out a littler further on the sides. it's odd.

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Pretty cool arm/shoulder shot from tonight.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?p...dbb&id=20803725

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Leg!
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?p...cca&id=20803725

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You are a genetic freak.

I'll have to post a pic of my calf sometime.

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I have a hard time buliding mass in the calves. They're getting really cut, i can see the split between the two calve muscles, but the overall size is lacking. But calves are a very genetically limited muscle. I have a pretty insane calve routine though. Let me know if you're interested. It's pretty simple, but fuckin brutal.

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I`m sorry but HOLY FUCK MAN!

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Yeah, calves probably give the most headaches to a lot of bodybuilders, especially pro bodybuilders. I don't go insane on the calves(usually just 4 sets of seated calf raises, 15-20 reps) because they are naturally big. Your quads look sick though.

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Thanks man. For calves I'll do a heavy set of calf raises (6-8) with full extension and a slight pause at the top and bottom of each rep, then immediately go into a burnout with my own body weight, then once you can't take it anymore and your muscle feels like it's filling with acid and it might blow out of your skin, you walk around on your tip toes for a minute (which is your rest between the sets), then go right back into it. 5-6 sets of that shit and you're hurtin pretty good. The idea is to never fully rest them and force the blood in the muscle.

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I've read that black people, on average, have a harder time with their calves. Something about the calf muscle tending to be longer and leaner. Mine isn't like that at all, but I'm only half black, which means I'm probably only like 12.5% of actual African blood of any type.

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I have heard that too. But black people build muscle a lot easier and have a naturally lower bodyfat, on average. At work, you can watch the inmates lift weights on the yard, and the build of the black guys is naturally far superior than the build of the white guys on average. But white guys tend to be stronger. It's interesting.

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Maybe the black guys are smuggling protein powder in their buttholes?

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They can buy protein there from commissary. Name brand stuff too, by Universal.

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what are your guys' routines as far as lifting goes? after im really good at running and stuff I slowly want to get back into a mass/strength/body building program after im done with army training for the summer.

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That is fucked up.


Routines?? That would take too long to write-down..but this is usually my workout split.

Day 1
Cardio/abs

Day 2
Legs

Day 3
Chest

Day 4
Back

Day 5
Shoulders

Day 6
Biceps, Triceps, Forearms

Day 7
Rest

Well...that's the ideal workout week anyways. I'll mix it up every once in awhile and change my rest day(s) around. I usually do 4/5 sets of every exercise, with 4/5 exercises for each muscle group. Arms day I usually do 3(4 sets each) exercises for biceps, 3(4 sets each) exercises for triceps, 2(2 sets each) exercises for forearms.

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Chest

Bi's/Tri's/Forearms

Legs

Shoulders

Back

Legs

Rest Day

I only get legs twice in an idea week though. And I also have to judge things by the way my fucked-up arm feels. It's been decent lately though. I've just learned what exercises aggravate it and what don't.

On bent-over rows today I got 285 for 4. I really wanted that fifth one, but my LEFT elbow didn't like it. Yeah, my "good" elbow. I dunno what's up with that now.

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Today I walked about 4 miles. I know that this doesn't sound like much, but seeing me move at all is a miracle.

In fact, I have swam multiple times this summer, and also one day I worked out! So far I have gained minimal exercise experience, however not optimal for my standards. I plan to increase this pattern tenfold, so hopefully by the end of summer I will be working out twice per week.

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whoa, twice per week?! settle down there, arnold. haha

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