Since you obviously don't like tuna. Have you tried salmon?

It's a pretty readily available fish, and you can get it in the same types of packages, and it has about an equal protein content...

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yeah in fact there is some downstairs that i will eat later this week

im hoping to get some turkey tomorrow for lunch or something


in other health related news i stopped drinking coffee in the am yesterday. by the time i get to it the coffee is already cold and i dont even really enjoy it. sadly my body still does :P i have a terrible headache now but i will deal with it

im not done drinking coffee but i dont want to have my body craving it like it obviously does

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Wean yourself off it and you won't have the headache problem. Either add more water to it or get some low power and then go off that. It takes only a few days that way. But watch other stuff like OTC meds and foods that might have it. Although caffeine will help pain relievers work faster. That's why it's in some of them.

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I've now gotten to 75 pushups without stopping, shredding 16ths at 157bpm, and sweeping triplets 180 bpm.

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does this explain why i get a headache if i dont take tylenol in the morning? it happens sometimes

and nah i just quit cold turkey and am doing fine.i think the worst was from 4-6 pm yesterday ,i was seriosuly ready to go to bed and i had a terrible headache


legs today

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I've read that the afternoon slump is caused by a decrease in body temperature so maybe it was doubly effected because of your caffeine withdrawl. Experiment if it happens again and take a regular tylenol and see if that remedies it. A lady I worked with used to prevent her migraines by having a single cup of coffee at their onset so maybe a little caffeine would help you get past that time. Or maybe your body just wants a power nap.

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my sleepings all messed up lately anyways so its probably just a big cominbation of things that will go away. plus vaca is coming up

legs today, but chest hurts from yesterday. oh god that cable crossover machine rules

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Oh yeah, the crappy sleep patterns don't help at all. I didn't mention water cuz I'm sure you drink a large lake of it already.

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i need some help with what to eat.
i weigh 155 am 6ft and take creatine

i dont really eat certain things each day because i dont know nothing about eating right.
could someone suggest good eating patterns and a good ab and chest workout
i have 2 dumbells and a barbell bench than inclines and declines, im lifting about 115 on the barbell but i can deffinately do some more than that, Thanks

wow is my chest sore

had sweet and sour chicken for protein today

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• Eat every 2-3 hours (6-8 meals per day).

• Eat complete protein with each meal (30-60 grams per meal).

• Eat veggies (2-3 servings) and/or fruits (0-2 servings) with every meal.

• Eat a mix of fats each day (~1/3 from sat., ~1/3 from mono., ~1/3 from poly.)

• Eat non-fruit and veggie carbohydrate (liquid carbs and/or starchy carbs like pastas, rice, whole grain breads, oats, etc.) only within the first few hours after exercise, or in the very first meal of the day.

• Drink calorie-free beverages with or between each meal. Green tea and water should make up the majority of your fluid intake (excluding protein/nutrition shakes).

• Eat whole foods for most meals (except workout and immediate post-workout drinks) unless impossible, then use supplements (shakes and bars) when necessary.

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Interesting info.


I kicked my Pecs asses today(that doesn't make any sence at all). Flys, push ups, dips, and a set on the bench.

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thanks , thats going to get awhile to get used to eating like that

i did flyes real hard one day and then that evening tried to do dips

HAHA i got down and back up again and that was all i could do


shoulders and back today

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I worked on my biceps and tripecs today plus some bench press and dumbbell rowing (sp? + dunno if you call it that) for laughs.

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I did some major chest and bicep work last night. I did pyramid sets going down on the curls--shit it was great.....my biceps were about to pop. Then I did a ton of dips with sets of ten.

But before that, as usual, I did my squats and deadlifts. My squat is up to 410lbs, but my deadlift has gone down to 230lbs max!. Probably cause I've been doing a lot more stiff-legged deadlifts with long sets of 180lbs......

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seated row 110 today as the last set, that was awesome


steve what do you do with your wrist while doing reverse grip bicep curls?


thoughts on dairy as a protein source?

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Dairy shit can be good for protein. I use milk when cooking and on cereal quite frequently, and I probably eat about 5 lbs. of cottage cheese per week. I love that shit.

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I do three sets of rows with 220, for 10, 12 and 15-18, then the last set with 180 till failure (usually about 20 reps) But yeah do as much back as you can sam!!

I always keep my wrists straight during curls. And also, I do curls with 95, and reverse grip with 65-75, so expect to drop quite a bit while doing them, because they are just harder.

Dairy is definately good... especially if you are making shakes daily (as I do)... but it isn't enough.

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yeah i know its not enough but ive been having cheese and milk lately in addition to meat and it seems to be a great idea. just wondered if there was any idea

straight wrists it is

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I'm still fucking sore from that, it's crazy.

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It was fucking yesterday!!

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was a bit puzzled doing reverse curls this morning. the dumbells didnt stay even... like they do when you do it with normal grip


hrm ill ask steve in school

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Muscle failure is wrong when it's in your legs. They are rubber right now. Damn that Denise Austin.........I think it'll be a cottage cheese for breakfast morning. YAWNNNNNNNNN It hurts so good!

THANKS FBS!!!!!!!!

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I feel like I have a seven foot pole up my arse from working my legs out.

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Wow, maybe something was too heavy? Or maybe when you bent to pick something up someone snuck up on you?
My legs still feel like macaroni, but glutton for punishment me, took the dog for a walk.

I've got a problem with my left lower leg though. I don't think Schamberg's Disease cuz my husband has that, but I've got a patch that gets reddish like it's probably broken blood vessels and after all the walking and climbing I did yesterday it's black and blue, too. It comes and goes. Could it be caused from bad shoes or would some grapeseed extract help that?

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Hahahaha

It would be wrong if they didn't hurt

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80 pushups I got up to last night. I'm close!

Yo, sane, do you ever read PMs or are you just ignoring me?

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He's just too embarassed to reply to your raunchy PMs.

Haha, I was sore like it was my first time working out again. I've got to start working out that hard everytime.

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DOMINATED.

I managed to tear the White Pages.

Not the cleanest rip ever, but damn it, I did it.

1960 pages of phonebook related death-killing. A new record.

Now, where the hell am I going to get a larger book???

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My glutes are gravy today as are my ankles are the rest of my legs here and there. Squats and yoga lunges conplete with elbows on the floor contortions. Yes, I did it yesterday. I pushed just beyond my limits and when I started to lose form from my legs shaking uncontrollably I thought it was time to stop before I injured myself.
Then I hung 3 sets of mini blinds for mom and was climbing up and down a chair doing that along with the drill work.
The dog and I went for a walk, too.

I've still got a bit of yardwork, a coldframe to build,and a ceiling to replaster, but it's gonna rain so screw all that. Today is a recovery day.

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Holy fucking Christ.

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Pecs and back today, I'm too tired to do anything at the moment.

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chest bis and tris today, my fav! arms are all weak now

great feeling

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recently I've been trying to improve my jumping ability for basketball, with squatting, but i picked up few more exercises from this article, i thought it was really good. If anyones interested.

http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/jumphigher.html

LOL what in god's name

Some of those Limit Strength Exercises sound like what I did yesterday morning only without the weights involved. I think my butt's about 2 inches higher, but I'm able to bend 2 " less.
But like Tranny said about his arms, it feels good. I can hardly move at first, but it does feel good.

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i focued on protein today


breakfest -

kashi bar - 13 grams
slimfast optima shake - 10 grams


brunch
kashi cereal- 13 grams
skim milk - barely any on, only like 2 grams probably
peanut butter and jelly (bread+ peanut butter probably around 15)

early dinner
peanuts, cashews and glass of skim milk , around 20

dinner

ungodly 12 inch meatball sub i can only imagine how much protein...

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I had a lot of protein today as well:

A hamburger helper box with a whole bag of melted cheddar cheese and 2 bags of rice all mixed together.

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yeah i over did it on that sub i feel sick now, was simply too much food

oh well, ill take it easy tomorrow

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Psh. You can't eat too much food there's no such thing

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there is when your stomach is visibly expanded

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Mine looks like that a lot. Just drink more beer and develop a beer gut.

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damn man you make that sound like an objective

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Damn, i'm so sore. I've been doing 3 sets of 7 beers, but my stomach is getting huge!

I was posting up everything I did today, but I really don't feel like typing it all up now, maybe later.

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Well, I'm not going to be a fucking underwear model. I'm going to be a beastly spawn of satan with muscle.

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They're the same thing. All underwear models are spawns of satan.

Started some mild exercise. 50 stomach crunches, 10 push-ups, and err...some pull-ups from my door.

Ha, I can't do those anymore, I'd rip the door off the wall.

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I can only do those in my staircase and it hurts as a motherfucker,

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We have emergency air connections in the middle of reactor instrumentation that are perfect for doing pullups on

All you have to do is make sure the wrong people don't see you doing it. I can only knock out six pullups at a time, and usually go for a grand total of about 40 or 50, so roughly 7-8 sets, but I'd say that's pretty good considering how heavy I am.

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To all of you who keep asking me about this stuff, take note... THE ABOVE DIET SUCKS MULE FORESKIN. If that's your version of focused on protein, then I'd hate to see "bugger all protein" or "protein deficient".

MORE NATURAL FOOD.
MORE HEALTHY FOOD.
MORE FOOD IN GENERAL.

I'm on a really, really restrictive diet right now, I'll show you a page out of my diet log:

(Calories in brackets)

11.30am (415.8) 3 eggs, 4 eye bacon rashers (lean), 250g spinach
2pm (160.0) protein shake
7:30pm (324.5) babaganoush, pistachio nuts
8:30pm (474.0) satay chicken, 1/4 of a steamed cabbage, peas, beans
10pm (78.6) sundried tomato cheese
10.30pm (155.3) handful of walnuts
2.30am (145.0) protein shake, fish oil caps

Daily total, more than 200g protein, only 1800 calories. Meat, eggs, nuts, vegetables, protein powder.

A normal day would look more like this:

10am - Oatmeal, protein powder, fruit, coffee
1pm - Brown pasta or rice, appropriate sauce (usually tomato-based, w. vegetables), meat
3pm - Protein shake
6pm - Lean hamburger on wholemeal bun
8pm - 500g meat, whole steamer full of vegetables w. olive oil (lots) or avocado
10pm - Nuts, cheese, babaganoush
Before bed - Protein, fish oil caps, vitamins, supplements

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Wth is babaganoush except for something fun to say? That sounds a lot healthier than Tranny's. I'd die on that little food.

Tranny, the garlic in the meatballs probably caused you to bloat. That's very common. And you're probably shrinking your stomach eating that little.

Well, mom's got me working out again today. I thought I'd stay home and plaster, but I'm going to burn and plant at her house. More walking. My glutes are getting beautifuller and beautifuller.

I took half a nitric o pill after my oatmeal and OJ just cuz I'm dragging today from the tylenol pm I took last night at 8. Everything hits me hard.

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ill keep that in mind fbs

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Hahaha

Yeah to gain a lot of mass, one needs to eat a shitload. I've never eaten as much in my life as I have been in the last 3 months.

Average day:

7:00 - 6-10 scrambled egg whites, one whey shake
8:00 - Raisin bagel
11:30 - Two large sandwiches (turkey, steak, pork etc.) One or two fruits, usually apples or bananas
3:00 - Whey shake, sometimes a large bowl of grain cereal, vegetables (peppers, beans, or maybe onions) and a meat of some sort, usually something left over from the night before.
6:00 - 7:00: Dinner, totally varies night to night. But trust me, it is large and vast.

Well I'm in high school so I have limited say in what I have and when I eat during the day, but I don't think my diet is half bad.

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Stop eating like a damn squirrel Tranny.

Heheh, I think he's still trying to lose weight.

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if im not hungry im not going to eat. i actually think i eat a fair deal

same goes here with the being in highschool and not really having a fair say in dinner

eating light today, feels way better. cereal, fruit, yogurt etc


nah not really trying to lose weight i dont really care about adding or losing weight at this point, im pretty much all set. trying to eat food with more protein and general healthyness

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How is this humanly possible?

http://hoback.ncsa.uiuc.edu/~prajli...manfred_net.jpg

25 1/2 inch arms? They're larger than his head!

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I just had dinner. Started out with 5 boiled eggs. Proceeded to eat a plate and a half of rice with assorted vegetables and cheese. On the side of that a salad containing large white beans and sellery (sp?). After this two pieces of pie. The pie containing a total of ten eggs, half a litre of whipped cream and ten weird fruits. To the pie I had a couple glasses of sherry, and after that a couple more glasses and I'm feeling comfortably drunk. For the moment I am enjoying a cup of coffee with just a tad bit of milk in it.

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Celery

That's a lot of grub though.

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Yeah I know but it was my "day off" today meaning no working out just fooling around at home taking it easy plus its easter.

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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/photo/data/2/lee3.jpg haha damn, lee priest is crazy!
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/photo...Gal_Feb15LG.jpg the veins on that man are fucking unbelivable
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/photo...Gal_Feb21LG.jpg and another one of ronnie...
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/photo...497img00015.jpg haha he probably had to have his uniform specially made
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/photo...426press109.jpg crazy...

and my personal favourite.. Dexter Jackson:
http://www.flexonline.com/05contest...es/aaaa0754.jpg
http://images.hugi.is/heilsa/66625.jpg
http://www.benchpresschampion.com/P...xterJackson.jpg

just thougt those were some cool pictures

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wow this thread took a turn for the gay

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There was a bodybuilder on the ship my husband was on when he was in the Navy that had super big arms and had to have v's cut under his sleeves and more fabric sewn in to accomodate them. I saw him once on a dependence cruise and his arms were something else.

Slabbe'-- That makes me ill thinking about all that together.

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That's actually pretty cool. I hope he beats people up.

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In the video that picture's from, he has to arrest this teenage girl. It's pretty funny. She hit her mom or something and he was talking about how he'd never hit his mom because she'd kick his ass or something. Pretty good stuff.

It's on Ronnie Coleman - the Unbelievable. He squats 800 in that video and flat benches 200 lb. dumbbells if I remember right.

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My dad raw benched 355 pounds today in a competition, got first place for his age group.

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Several possibilities.

1. Synthol
2. Local inflammatory agents (I forget the name)
3. He's lying

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all i have to say on those freakish looking bodybuilders is that shit cant be entirely healthy

the heart doesnt grow proportional to the the extra weight added of pure muscle, these guys will suffer the same fate most obese people do if they are like that most of thier lives, heart disease, thier heart will constantly be doing double time to catch up on the cardio. poor gas tanks, so to speaks, so when they workout they strain an already strained heart

i also wonder on knee joints and ankles, like obese people, if these people run regularly will they destroy thier feet and legs. bone structure, ligaments,tendons have thresholds that do do not adapt exponentailly with that much weight and girth added. if you wieght like 400+ of pure muscle i can see this happening, the ankle joint especially is very delicate

i could be entirely wrong, im no expert on the subject. i just notice from watching mma the bigger,bodybuilder-type heavyweights always gas out faster and usually realize no amount of cardio training is gonna help so some drop weight. and granted i know when those dude get older they will probably retire and drop the weight unlike an obese person, but its not uncommon for obese people to be dead at 50 by heart problems

It's not at all healthy.

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It may not be healthly, but it's getting more and more possible to look like that.

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It seems like it's just the opposite of the super thin woman syndrome. Media in whatever form.
Like I told my doc. I don't care about losing weight I just want to feel better. If I do lose some that's fine, but if not that's okay, too. I'm still a little sore from the other day, but not to bad. I probably limbered up some gardening yesterday. Lots of lunges fighting with weeds.
Blood test tomorrow.

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You posted on the first page! But what the hell do you mean by "turnin for the gay?"


My favorite bodybuilder is Lou Ferrigno. I wanna be him some day. http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/ferrigno.html

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lol If you replaced his head with He Man's you couldn't tell the difference!

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So I'm trying to get rid of my belly thats been growing. Doing lots of cardio, drinking a fuckton of water, etc. Guess I should stay away from Chipotle...

Nutrition Facts
Serving Size: 1 Burrito
Amount Per Serving

Calories 1443 Calories from Fat 506
% DV*
Total Fat 57g
Saturated Fat 17g
Cholesterol 81mg
Sodium 2806mg
Total Carbohydrate 175g
Dietary Fiber 7g
Sugars 2g
Protein 58g
Vitamin A 72%
Vitamin C 4%
Calcium 48%
Iron 32%


MUHAHAHAHA

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Learn how to make them yourself. Peppers are really good for ya. Hot ones are good for a lot of your innards, too.

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haaaaaaahahahah i actually laughed at that


i mean we went from discussing weights to looking at pictures of oiled up men

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Take a look at Sergio Olivia. One of the most underrated bodybuilders from that era.

http://digilander.libero.it/gruppociak/so45.jpg

That is a bad motherfucker.

i understand these guys go through lots of preparation for photo shoots, what do body builders look like when theyre sitting around their house reading the paper?

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Heheh "oiled up men" That's what they all have to look like. Poor bastards.

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When fit, and not oiled up, they might look like this
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/2002/bigrace2.jpg

That's Kevin Levrone on the left, one of bodybuilding's sad pandas.

http://www.giantpt.com/Training/Afb...Schouders01.jpg

Kevin Levrone trying desperately to win an Olympia.

Before they go on stage, they lift weights to get the pump going, and they get oiled. They do this with photo shoots too.

Off-season can be almost anything. You've got Dennis James, who keeps himself looking okay http://www.dennis-james.com/Gallery...son/full/06.jpg

And you've got Nasser El Sonbaty, the world's most obvious juicer

http://www.houseofpainironwear.com/..._el_sonbaty.jpg

http://naturalolympia.com/PhotoAlbu...ser-and-me2.jpg

EDIT : The irony in that last photo is astounding. Look at the book he's pointing at.

And you've got Lee Priest, who is the world's worst off-season bodybuilder
http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop.../Priest_044.jpg

Seriously, WHO THE FUCK LET'S ANYONE TAKE OF PICTURE OF THEM LIKE THAT

YOU!!!

I'm partial to Raphael Calzadilla because I've read a lot of his stuff on eDiets and eFitness that makes a lot of sense to me healthwise and he says he's done it naturally, too. http://www.inbfmonstermash.com/imag..._Calzadilla.jpg
http://bbpics.com/raphaelcalzadilla/

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yeah that guy looks a lot more of what should be a goal


somethings not quite right when you want your tit to have more muscle than the average guys thigh

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fucking state puff marshmellow men. some people..........strive...........to look like a giant hamburger

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Haha, look at his forearm...it's fucking round....

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I think that's the look our human disposals are going for on here.

Oh, hi, powers'.

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I don't really want to look like a cut of beef, but like a professional wrestler. Ha....maybe after I get very big I should become an independent low-brow wrestler. I'll use Nile for the entrances.

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THIS IS A RECIPE FOR FATTY FAT FAT FAT FAT! That is more than a whole day's carbs for me.

My favourite physique right now is (and has been for a while) classic-era Frank Shamrock on the right. He'd be about 5'10, 85-90kg there. Phil Baroni also looks fucking lethal at approx. the same height and weight, although he's a fucking dickhead.

Bodybuilders, their bodies, their sports and their attitude in general all make me physically ill.

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did legs back and shoulders today because it has been a while (gym was closed due to easter)

nothing pumps up my forearms more than seated rows, for some reason

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My goal personally is to look like Matt Hughes from UFC, i think he has a great physique, not to mention hes probably strong as fuck.

Yesterday I tried those suitcase deadlifts for the first time. I did them with just the bars, how in the world do you balance them? (had a hell of a time keeping them in my hands) Does it get easier to balance once you add weights?

What and how much money are the following:

babaganoush
pistachio nuts
satay chicken (does chicken have less fat than beef but roughly the same protein?)
sundried tomato cheese
fish oil caps
"Nuts, cheese, babaganoush"

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What are they??? Uh, foods. Sources of fat and protein. You can find them in a supermarket.

The only strange thing in the above list is babaganoush (which is smoked eggplant dip - sounds nasty, tastes brilliant.) Surely you know what satay chicken is... ? Sundried tomato cheese is perhaps cheese, with sundried tomatoes in it?

Have I misunderstood your question?

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i had meant to ask, why pistachios compared to unsalted peanuts

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Well, that's the bare minimum of what I was looking for. I thought I'd go and find these things this morning, and instead of wandering around the store looking for something I've never seen before, I'd ask you. Also, I buy things either in the bulk or if it is anything less than about 20 cents per ounce. Smoked eggplant does sound disgusting though. I think I'll just see if I can find those pistachio nuts.....
Do you mean to say that these nuts are a meal by themselves for you? You don't....like.....dip them in a steaming cup of pig fat or rap them in slices of cheese?

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Question. Is it bad to work out everybody part everytime you go to the gym? I notice most people and exercise routines have different body parts spread into different days. I was just wondering if doing everything on the same day is a bad idea. I will most likely be spreading stuff into days when I get my license though.

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Whoah hang on hang on hang on...

You are looking at foods in a very specific diet that I'm doing now. Those foods are all fat/protein foods with very few carbs in them. This is NOT a normal list of foods to be eating all the time. In the above diet, I am treating these horribly unappetising things (e.g. a chunk of cheese) as a meal. It is a boring way to eat and highly not normal. Forget about trying to reproduce it.

The ten best foods (not in order):

Vegetables (including salad)
Meat
Oatmeal
Brown rice
Pasta
Fruit
Protein Powder
Meat
Nuts
Cheese
Good Oils (olive, flax, mustardseed etc.)

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Well, to start with it depends on how much (volume/intensity) you train the various body parts, what exercises you do, how often you go to the gym... and other stuff.

Be more specific.

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Alright. I go 3 times a week. I'll do 2 different things for chest. 3 sets of dips, along with incline flys is a typical one. Each set of dips to about failure. 7-8 reps with incline flys. 3 sets of standing curls, about 7 reps each. Then I'll do a few sets of preacher curls. 3 sets of cable tricep pull downs, about 7 reps each. 4 sets of leg presses, 6 reps each, increasing in weight. Either t-bar or seated rows, 3 sets, 8 reps. 3 sets of military presses, usually 6 reps unless I can get a few more out on the last set. Then i'll do 3 sets of both seated calf raises and seated wrist curls with the palms up..

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