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Old 2005-08-28, 21:58
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I was wondering what kind of scales Alexi Laiho uses to get that awesome sound they have. Anybody know?
 
Old 2005-08-28, 22:22
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u can tell his influence is yngwie. just look at his ego. what scales does malmsteen use. and thats probably the ones he uses too
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Old 2005-08-28, 22:49
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Old 2005-08-28, 23:13
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u can tell his influence is yngwie. just look at his ego. what scales does malmsteen use. and thats probably the ones he uses too


Have you seen Becker's cover of Black Star at his high school?

Fuckin cool man

Sounded to me like a lot of minor and harmonic
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Old 2005-08-28, 23:21
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this might sound stupid..


wich metal band doesnt use minor or harmonic minor??
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Old 2005-08-28, 23:23
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maybe the beatles and stones , And even then they probably used it too ,
 
Old 2005-08-28, 23:27
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they werent metal
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Old 2005-08-28, 23:38
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Bet none of you care, but i just learned harmonic major today. its sweet, it has like this tiny hint of difference from harmonic minor, but enough to tell so using harmonic minor wont be so old perhaps for our music.
 
Old 2005-08-28, 23:38
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they werent metal

actually your wrong ,they were technically the first metal bands ,
Think out of the box, Listen to revolution or helter skelter ,that was heavy metal dude , remember cannibal corpse didnt invent metal . there were bands like steppenwolf in 1968 who were heavy as shit for the time . THINK out of the BOX. Not everything is COB , or impaled nazarene or the like
I remember hearing jethro tulls album benefit in the early 70s , it was heavy metal .
 
Old 2005-08-28, 23:52
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actually your wrong ,they were technically the first metal bands ,
Think out of the box, Listen to revolution or helter skelter ,that was heavy metal dude , remember cannibal corpse didnt invent metal . there were bands like steppenwolf in 1968 who were heavy as shit for the time . THINK out of the BOX. Not everything is COB , or impaled nazarene or the like
I remember hearing jethro tulls album benefit in the early 70s , it was heavy metal .


I wouldn't go as far as saying 'metal bands'. Thats like calling Paul Gilbert a pop guitarist cause he made 'to be with you'. They made some heavy songs that you may go as far to say metal or could have influenced metal, but i think to call a band metal, they have to have that sound that everyone on here probably knows, this being the 'metal tab' forum. I dont think they really count if you ask me, but they definately all branched off during that time, not near as far as metal goes these days though.
 
Old 2005-08-28, 23:54
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DUDe, noone invented metal ,music just involved in a lot of ways, and what we cal metal is one of em IMO
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Old 2005-08-29, 00:01
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I wouldn't go as far as saying 'metal bands'. Thats like calling Paul Gilbert a pop guitarist cause he made 'to be with you'. They made some heavy songs that you may go as far to say metal or could have influenced metal, but i think to call a band metal, they have to have that sound that everyone on here probably knows, this being the 'metal tab' forum. I dont think they really count if you ask me, but they definately all branched off during that time, not near as far as metal goes these days though.


The term heavy metal has been used since the late 60s early 70s , I know I was there , And it was a great time I might Add
 
Old 2005-08-29, 00:07
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actually your wrong ,they were technically the first metal bands ,
Think out of the box, Listen to revolution or helter skelter ,that was heavy metal dude , remember cannibal corpse didnt invent metal . there were bands like steppenwolf in 1968 who were heavy as shit for the time . THINK out of the BOX. Not everything is COB , or impaled nazarene or the like
I remember hearing jethro tulls album benefit in the early 70s , it was heavy metal .

no shit little fox boy, you think your the only one here who knows of those bands? the beatles were influencial as hell and played a major role in music and for that they get alot of respect but are not metal to me and theyll never be more then four hippies up on lsd

shit as long as were thinking oustide the box, lets make richard wagner the new metal fucking god cause he was so heavy for his time


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there not that great anyway so...
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Old 2005-08-29, 00:12
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no shit little fox boy, you think your the only one here who knows of those bands? the beatles were influencial as hell and played a major role in music and for that they get alot of respect but are not metal to me and theyll never be more then four hippies up on lsd

shit as long as were thinking oustide the box, lets make richard wagner the new metal fucking god cause he was so heavy for his time



there not that great anyway so...


Your a big Dick , and little 250 lb me aint so little scrawny turd boy
You cant have a discussion without your foul little imbecile mouth , You really are a small person . You could have stated your position without the barbs nitwit , Oh yeah you Know ( NOT )
 
Old 2005-08-29, 00:14
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Well, apparently that link doesn't work. Scroll down to find the editorial entitled 'Your Mother Should Know,' if you're interested in my link.

I wouldn't go so far as calling any pre-Sabbath band a metal band, no matter how long the term 'heavy metal' existed before their first record debuted, but the Beatles had some pretty fuckin' metal moments. So let's all agree to stop talking about, okay? We'll talk about the scales Alexi Laiho uses, deal? Good.

I don't listen to very much CoB, but what I've heard and bothered to learn was just in the regular old minor scale.
 
Old 2005-08-29, 00:17
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I seemed to remember I said that ,
 
Old 2005-08-29, 00:22
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hahaha, man, foxguitar, you managed to turn a topic about what scales COB use into an argument about if the beatles were metal or not
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Old 2005-08-29, 00:26
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hahaha, man, foxguitar, you managed to turn a topic about what scales COB use into an argument about if the beatles were metal or not
lol, some peeps have it, some dont
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Old 2005-08-29, 00:26
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Well the beatles probably where considered pretty fucking heavy back in the day. maybe not heavy metal, but rock n' roll, which was probably just as outrageous then so i guess it evens out. In a brutal effort to stay on topic i'll go with minor.
 
Old 2005-08-29, 00:27
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Your a big Dick , and little 250 lb me aint so little scrawny turd boy
You cant have a discussion without your foul little imbecile mouth , You really are a small person . You could have stated your position without the barbs nitwit , Oh yeah you Know ( NOT )

is your wieght supposed to intimidate me? your nothing more then a name on a screen
and if a 50 year old man is offended by a little swear word then why are you here are or into metal at all? that is if your really lived and knew the 60's-70's which i doubt you are beacause your occupation states your a 'bouncer' no bouncer in todays world could have lived through that time period unless you were just a squirt in the womb. so you gotta be lieing about one or the other, so why should I even belive your 250 lb? your probably just a 13 year old boy who got permission from mommy and daddy to get on the computer
dont you know metal forums are a no no for little boys

and to tip my hat to pst im out of this thread
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Old 2005-08-29, 00:28
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oh jesus, here we go.


Edit: whats the fucking hold up? you two should be hacking at each others shins by now.

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Old 2005-08-29, 00:35
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but again I didnt start the fight , the cat asked what metal bands didnt use the Harmonic minor , Now whether you want to accept or not the beatles and stones and bands before sabbath as metal bands fine thats your right , I respectfully stated they were the first. If you dont think so , Fine. Then
why cant a respectful dialogue of point counterpoint be conducted without some 14 yr old Taliban snit who thinks they know everything.

Most of you arent old enough to been around in the late 60s and early 70s I was there , But if you dont accept Jethro Tull as metal fine, state your case without an attack

Now I do believe it was the Harmonic Minor that was banned in the Medieval
period for being diabolus in musica , The Devils Music, The penalty for composing with it was death by burning.
Any of you music historians correct me if Im wrong I do believe it was the Harmonic Minor.
 
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Now I do believe it was the Harmonic Minor that was banned in the Medieval
period for being diabolus in musica , The Devils Music, The penalty for composing with it was death by burning.
Any of you music historians correct me if Im wrong I do believe it was the Harmonic Minor.

pretty sure that was diminished. 1st, 3rds, and 5ths were dubbed the devils interval by the big bad church
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Old 2005-08-29, 00:37
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Old 2005-08-29, 00:40
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harmonic minor is most commonly heard in baroque. where mr. malmsteen gets alot of his influence
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Old 2005-08-29, 00:41
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