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anybody out there play the john 5 telley
they look cool and John 5 is a good player , they any good , if anybody has checked em out , There is no review on HC as far as I can tell
If any one has played one Id like to hear from ya
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it looks okay for an telecaster, but teles&strats are not realy suited for metal IMO.
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yeah I wouldnt think so either
whats it got a Invader in it , probably sucks LOL, ill stick to Gibsons and ESPs
I got a strat already and I hate it LOL
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it looks okay for an telecaster, but teles&strats are not realy suited for metal IMO.
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obviously never seen a fender heavy metal strat
i own two :P in the same colour
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I had the Iron maiden strat , It was terrible
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obviously never seen a fender heavy metal strat
i own two :P in the same colour
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I have a HSSBlack strat with maple neck , its ok I may sell it.
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you can buy an HSS strat, or convert an SSS strat into one, but Strats have these.. sucky action and not so nice necks that makes me want to throw them around..
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obviously never seen a fender heavy metal strat
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Yes, the guy from Marduk uses a Fender.
And I'm still looking into getting a Fender strat to use for my rock band. Although I'll probably just go with the Les. Eh. Whatever.
And to hell with John 5, and to hell with his signature model.
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obviously never seen a fender heavy metal strat
i own two :P in the same colour
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i seen whats is face...mick thomson from slipknot use a fender. go figure.
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i seen whats is face...mick thomson from slipknot use a fender. go figure.
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its jim root, but yea, tis tru
its loaded with emg 81/60 pickups tho
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I don't think strats suck, but their just not made for metal. More for clean stuff, blues and reggae and ska and stuff.. to high pitched, and not very fast playing..
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Stick a X2N and a PAF Pro in it, get a good amp, WALLAH.
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Yes, the guy from Marduk uses a Fender.
And I'm still looking into getting a Fender strat to use for my rock band. Although I'll probably just go with the Les. Eh. Whatever.
And to hell with John 5, and to hell with his signature model.
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dude chill , John 5 is a great player ,
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you can buy an HSS strat, or convert an SSS strat into one, but Strats have these.. sucky action and not so nice necks that makes me want to throw them around..
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I Actually have a John 5 Tele on order right now.
Most of you knobs would never have even played a Telecaster wired up for metal so how would you know if it sucked for the job or not?
What most people dont know is that the Tele can be one of the most versatile guitars around. When set up properly you can use them for almost anything.
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i dont see what could be bad about a tele. log guy uses a fender tele, at least sometimes. i played a showmaster tele or sumthin and i like it way more than my schecter. has the same pickups, i liked the neck way more, and the finish seemed of higher quality.
EDIT: fuck john 5
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I Actually have a John 5 Tele on order right now.
Most of you knobs would never have even played a Telecaster wired up for metal so how would you know if it sucked for the job or not?
What most people dont know is that the Tele can be one of the most versatile guitars around. When set up properly you can use them for almost anything.
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fox, just some friendly advice.. don't use titles on everything you post.. it is not email..
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Shut it, joke character. Why do I get the feeling that this is one of Chris'?
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Man you need some prozac , were you voted most likely to commit serial muder in your class , why do you always get your tits in a tizzy , and why is it u never know what the fuck you are talk about ,
whether you like john 5 or not ,the unmistakable fact ole dicksection he is a better player than most of your death metal no talent muthafriggers , he can solo at least
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What don't you understand about me not being a Death Metal guy? I listen to more indie rock than metal genius. And way to insult me. You type like Mr. Ed.
And one comment on the tele: Some signature models are purely cosmetic, and do not sound any different than the model its based on. Although I shouldn't have to tell you guys that.
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well young man , there would be no need to hurl shit if you knew how to post without insulting this or that , you always have a negative comment , your not always right as is any one else except me of course
if you want to have differing opinions thats fine but you always engage in verbal combat and as you know I enjoy the joust so I give it back at ya, look its nothing personal im sure your a ok cat , Id even go to the pub with ya and have some suds but you are probably too young to drink ,
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depends on which country we are drinking in.
And I am about as happy when I visit here as PST or Far_Beyond. Something about the green vibe that angries up the blood.
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depends on which country we are drinking in.
And I am about as happy when I visit here as PST or Far_Beyond. Something about the green vibe that angries up the blood.
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Ive been to london , never manchester , im sure it rocks
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i dont see what could be bad about a tele. log guy uses a fender tele, at least sometimes. i played a showmaster tele or sumthin and i like it way more than my schecter. has the same pickups, i liked the neck way more, and the finish seemed of higher quality.
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Mark Morton Uses the renegade pro that looks like a tele, but it is most definitly not a fender tele. Willie adler uses the Diablo custom, I like that one the most out of all the framus guitars.
Renegade Pro
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it said Manchester ,WHERE THE HELL IS MANCHESTER IN THE US NH?
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Mark Morton Uses the renegade pro that looks like a tele, but it is most definitly not a fender tele. Willie adler uses the Diablo custom, I like that one the most out of all the framus guitars.
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That thing is ugly as shit.
And its a song I wrote, twat. Its been addressed before.
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it is uglee , so is my LTD truckster but the fucker sure plays like a jem.and besides that your uglee toooooo, but we still like ya anyways
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Thats some guy that used to (still now? ) play in Marylin Mansons band. Now he is a solo/session guitarist, apparently he made some country album I heard..
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That thing is ugly as shit.
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John 5 shreds like a mutha , he is the dude from manson, is cd is pretty hot , its metal vs country its different ,its very cool
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Thats some guy that used to (still now? ) play in Marylin Mansons band. Now he is a solo/session guitarist, apparently he made some country album I heard..
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For most of his career he has played as a live guitarist for people like Manson, David Lee Roth, KD Lang.
He has done a shit load of studio work for lots of Jazz bands.
Last year he released an album that is half Metal half Blue grass. and a month from now he is realeasing a primarily instrumental Shred Album.
He is infact one of the worlds great guitarists. its just that most of the people he plays for doesnt need anyone with nearly enough skill that he posses' and because of this not many people know he is good. he comes recomended by Steve Vai but he played power chords for MM for ten years because he had fun doing it.
and in regard to his custom mode. there are plenty of changes that make it suited for metal.
For example there is an enforcer humbucker installed in the bridge. its nothing THAT special but you can install EMG's or seymour duncans in there if you wish.
also. instead of one volume and one tone knob. both of the knobs are volume knobs. on for the bridge and one for the neck pickup. using the three way switch you can get some rather interesting tones with it.
really. you could use this guitar for almost any style you would want to play.
The telecaster has been around for more than fifty years and its tried and true.
Plus. Most artists (even metal) dont use their BC Rich's and they're dean's or whatever they play on stage to record in studio. they use Les Pauls and Telecasters generally.
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It seems just like any other Tele with that classic 'Celebrity Markup' included. I really like the look of it though and I'd definately get one if I was looking into getting a Telecaster. Or maybe one of those Schecter Tele's those things look sweet.
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he is a better player than most of your death metal no talent muthafriggers , he can solo at least
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Did'nt you get that Necrophagist mp3 I posted?
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For most of his career he has played as a live guitarist for people like Manson, David Lee Roth, KD Lang.
He has done a shit load of studio work for lots of Jazz bands.
Last year he released an album that is half Metal half Blue grass. and a month from now he is realeasing a primarily instrumental Shred Album.
He is infact one of the worlds great guitarists. its just that most of the people he plays for doesnt need anyone with nearly enough skill that he posses' and because of this not many people know he is good. he comes recomended by Steve Vai but he played power chords for MM for ten years because he had fun doing it.
and in regard to his custom mode. there are plenty of changes that make it suited for metal.
For example there is an enforcer humbucker installed in the bridge. its nothing THAT special but you can install EMG's or seymour duncans in there if you wish.
also. instead of one volume and one tone knob. both of the knobs are volume knobs. on for the bridge and one for the neck pickup. using the three way switch you can get some rather interesting tones with it.
really. you could use this guitar for almost any style you would want to play.
The telecaster has been around for more than fifty years and its tried and true.
Plus. Most artists (even metal) dont use their BC Rich's and they're dean's or whatever they play on stage to record in studio. they use Les Pauls and Telecasters generally.
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Now heres a guy who knows his shit , You hit the nail right on the head , its hard to school these young turks , with most of these cats here if it aint DETH Metal it sucks , John 5 is one talented cat , He shreds like a Satriani , vai etc ,
I never had a telle , So it may be cool to check it out for under a K
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Name the poster who stated this.
AND. About death metal guitarists not being able to solo :
http://shop.relapse.com/dbmedia/aud...0Stabwound3.mp3
Right click, save target as.
You are thus proven wrong.
And to be on topic, John 5 is a great player.
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Yeah I did , So you dont have to re do ,
Look I like alot of those bands , usually hate the cookie monster singing , I ve always liked the swedish melodic metal bands ,Alot of them are skilled players COB , Soilwork , Messugah, arch Etc, that MP3 the guitar is excellent , I hate the growling shit but then again alot of people hate King Diamond , Who I love .
Look its all good , there is no right or wrong , its what ever floats your boat , I didnt come on the board to fight with anyone , Im a self confessed gear junkie , Im old enough and have enough money , not saying im a rich dude or nothing to try alot of stuff and buy alot of stuff guitars , gear what have you , so I came here hopefully trying to learn some shit , I have friends that are in touring bands , another friend owns major guitar store specializing in Gibson , ESP etc , usually where I get great deals on my shit , The only problem is that dude while he knows his shit is older than me and thus is very old school , plug your Gibson SG into a JCM 800 and theyre you go, Hes not into the new framus or Englsor what not,
Anyway like i said I didnt come to fight and argue but at the same time if you hurl shit Ill hurl it back, I grew up in Brooklyn ,thats in NYC for those who dont know ,
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If you're not here to start shit, fine, but don't make sweeping generalizations of the posters here, at least one will perk his head and retort ( such as myself ). This is what seems to happen in every thread you're in ( a fictional account, but true nonetheless ) :
Thread Starter : What guitar should I get for a great sound?
Poster 1 : ESP's are nice. The American made ones are especially great, if you have the money.
Poster 2 : If money is no concern, get a custom made like a Ran. If you're on a tight budget go for a Schecter.
Poster 3 : The B.C. Rich NJ Series are nice.
You : A Les Paul will do you fine.
Poster 2 : Meh, Les Pauls are kind of generic ... they work, but ... I just don't like them, especially in death metal.
You : NOW LOOK HERE. I'm an older guy who's been listening to classic rock for years, back when guys knew how to solo, not this sloppy death metal bullshit with no lead playing. I KNOW my shit. Les Pauls are tried and true, you can't deny it. Look at the players who use them! You're not old enough to know what you're talking about.
Poster 2 : Ok, listen, its fine that you like Les Pauls and everything, but I just think they're overused. Plus you need to quiet down, you're being a jerk.
You : Ok, YOU WANNA JOUST?!?!?!? I fucked your mother last night! You don't get any chicks, or have any friends, what's it like sucking so much at life? ... *insert several "behead" or "uzi" icons at end of post*
This needs to stop. Whenever someone shoots a suggestion of yours down, or simply disagrees with you, or even likes cookie-monster growls, you need to take a deep breath, count to ten, and NOT type three paragraphs about how they're ball-licking cumsucking fags or whathaveyou. If you must "joust", PM ( private message ) the person, or take it to the RTT thread in Chit Chat, where you can say whatever the hell you want to anyone. If you look at all the threads you have'nt been in, and then take a look at the threads that you are in around here, you'll notice a vast difference.
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well bro ,I think you got it backwards .Not that it matters , and Victim , Im not because like i said I dont take this shit personally , But 99% of the time I started a post or responded to one, one of you jumped in my shit, when I post I almost always state this is IMHO , Do I claim to know it all hell no , Do I go overboard sometimes in the "joust" yeah of course I do , But look back at every Thread ,You will see the same names jousting back , I guess they enjoy the game too , otherwise they or you wouldnt respond,
And to be honest with no offense meant ,more often than not its other people who state opinionated shit , I asked if anybody knew about GR-33 or VG-88 only 2or 3 posts out of about 100 had anything to do with that, I asked about john 5 telley , one genius wrote fuck john 5 ,
You send the MP3 I acknowledged the dude was a premo guitar player , did you acknowledge the fact that I gave props , No you wrote a post crowing like a peacock , Oh I showed that Dude , Well at least I had the Balls to admit the dude had chops , well on the otherhand some of you would rather suffer a hideous death than ever admit to something I said was correct.
I only speak of shit of what ive owned , played or tried, I ask about stuff Im not familiar with hence the GR-33 ,The john 5 and other posts .
in conclusion , The bullshit with some of the other dudes aint real , Im sure they are laffing their asses off too ,
Im not getting off the forum so accept me Ill accept you and it will be cool, I never flamed anyone till I got flamed first, I dont always have to agree with everything you say as you dont everything I say .
So like I said Mr. Holland, you seem like a decent dude , but I do think you too like to stir shit up , and sit on the side lines while the joust with others is going on. I do grant you the dude on the MP3 is very good , the singer sucks
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I couldnt agree more john. Fox there were about 100 things in that post i could have taken and shot back at you for how gay it was, but Im not gonna start another stupid "joust". Im just gonna say read johns post again cause he was 100% correct. He actually told you to chill and take a breath before you post if someone disagrees with you, but look what you do, write another 3 paragraph post again.
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well now now , what do you have to do cheer each other on , first off he was wrong as so are you ,
second that fictional account is just that fiction , like I said I talk about what Ive owned or played or demoed < im not afraid to admit when I dont know , do I claim to know, Thus again is why I asked questions about the john 5 and the synths , if I claimed to know everything why would I ask in a thread , Huh , do I sometimes lay it on thick to fuck with guys like u sure I do , But each and everytime , You and your homeys instigated it , But like I said its not personal . but at least get the story right. read my posts about the guy who asked about the JSX and TSL , I never made sweeping statements I usually say IMHO you know what stands for In MY Humble Opinion .
The kid even told you to fuck off , and I didnt even pay him to say that HAHA , But get the facts right , You and your buds thought it be fun to throw muck , I threw back , I dont post to all the ridiculous threads you generate. And to Mr. Holland you say look at other threads that im not on, well sir , I have and the fur flies there too.
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there you go again
boy , you are so tuff , you scare me from the safety of your puter, you talk shit for a pimply faced snot nose , see dick weed you dont have a legitimate thing to say do you , all you talk is bullshit tired bullshit , you cant argue with facts , no not you speedy gonzalez , oh did you lose your license , then you cant drive to your job at mcDonalds midnight janitor and clean the toilets now can you
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And for someone that is supposed to be "mature" like you claim to be, your the one "trashtalking" and "jousting".
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I guess all you girls stick together , well dont matter none , Ah Brainsy , I thought you and I were pals , dude!, Know what if you didnt start the shit , it would be over , I didnt start but im not letting you doofs get the last word , I got nothing to do all day , Im retired , so I can post all day , If you dont like what I say , you can refrain from posting but no , you all have to be lil cunts . well you all amuse me thats for sure.
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Fox, I only have one problem with you, yor constant genralization of all detah metal guitarists sucking. I personally listen to Jazz, Metal, and Classical so don't genralize me into being some death metal elitist. If youw ant people to argue with facts, fine. To show you are stupid you are for slamming detah metal, check out the following bands:
Origin, Cynic, Athiest, Martyr, Nile, Psyopus, Capharnaum, Death (late era), Dying Fetus.
All of thoes guitar players slay the fuck out of old blues based rock player whom you constantlyu praise. I hate to break it to you, but pentatonics are overused, boring, and EASY. CLassic rock solos are boring and lakc originality.
I'm not looking for an argument, I'm just telling you, you have no idea what your talkinga bout when it comes to death metal.
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Well, getting back to topic. . .
I have never played the John 5 Tele, but if i had to assume, its probably not that different from a tele with an Invader in it. I dont know for sure, but even without that, i really am just not a fan of buying signature guitars. Like, i am not saying this of any of you, but the people i see around here that buy the signature guitars are the guys that are damn good, but will never make it being a pro guitarist; they just dont put in the hours, or have what it takes (its unfortunate for many that do work hard, but its true, some really dont have it, but i find that rare, and if anyone works hard, anything can happen).
Now at this point, you are probably all like, about to bash me for saying that about signature guitar buyers, that they are only good to an extent. But check this out, if those couple special signature-buyers get to be pros, they probably will have to sell their precious signature, or just not use it live. I mean how many pro guys out there do you see using a JEM or a Satch? Almost in every case of a signature guitar, you can get a guitar thats probably just as good, and more likely more comfortable for you, being more a of a choice, and for cheaper. A signature is comfortable for the person it was made after.
As you may have all known, i WAS a Carvin Freak, and would constantly say they are the best guitars for a great price. I am just saying now, i am sorry for all that. I used to own a Jackson Soloist back in my early days, but sold it. I played one recently, and bought one recently, and i think they kick Carvin's ass. I have never, ever used a better guitar in my life. Ive played JEM's, Satch's, Les Pauls (Please tell me what les pauls are good for beside sloppy blues and rhythm?), Strats, and Schecters, and Jackson USA's just kick their ass.
I am saying all this, because for the price of a John 5, which i probably wouldnt like cause i think tele's are ugly and most likely not good for metal, you could have a USA Jackson in your hands from ebay. Just a little more money and a mint condition one.
I am sure i made people mad with the les paul thing up there, but for anyone that hasnt grown up playing les pauls for years,(and just have gotten used to them, so they like no other) really, what are they good for besides sloppy, classic rock blues and rhythm guitar? Actually im going to make a thread about this, but i promise i wont make it all argumentative as i can.
(I haven't been here for a week, so i deserve a long post as my post back, sorry)
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Dude , to be honest , I like alot of that stuff My dying Bride , Death , James Murphy , Testament , Dimmu , the haunted , at the Gates , Vader , Amorphis COB , Machine head SYL , not every one being death I realize, Cynic is great as is messhugah , Ok I grant you I made a dum generalization , point well taken
cheers to you , see that wasnt so bad , you presented a valid argument without telling me im a asshole , and i granted you you were right
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The reason why people like signature guitars is 2 fold IMHO
notice I said IN MY Humble Opinion
first , obvious you like the cat whose guitar you are playing , second you cant get a stock les paul with alnico duncans or the thin ass neck thats on the Slash les paul , for the most part Sig stuff tends to be higher end because alot of guys like Zakk wont put their names on POS , there are always exception. I have a Tony Iommi SG , Its again IMHO the best Sg ive ever played. I have a Zakk Camo again a paul with 81/85 , I have a Page LP , Fastest Neck on a LP , but again The sig stuff tends to be good shit , Just this boys honest opinion.
And beside most pros have their shit moded to the max.
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The reason why people like signature guitars is 2 fold IMHO
notice I said IN MY Humble Opinion
first , obvious you like the cat whose guitar you are playing , second you cant get a stock les paul with alnico duncans or the thin ass neck thats on the Slash les paul , for the most part Sig stuff tends to be higher end because alot of guys like Zakk wont put their names on POS , there are always exception. I have a Tony Iommi SG , Its again IMHO the best Sg ive ever played. I have a Zakk Camo again a paul with 81/85 , I have a Page LP , Fastest Neck on a LP , but again The sig stuff tends to be good shit , Just this boys honest opinion.
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well put actually, ^
I agree alot, but for me personally, i am a custom guy, and i love to tweak my guitars constantly, so if i want a thinner neck or different sound, ill sand the neck and coil split the pickups, i dont know, just some stuff like that.
My comment about the les pauls tho, is if you like the fast necks of the slash model and the Page model, why dont you just get a fast guitar, like a jackson soloist. And to get that les paul tone, make it a mahogany body and put the pickups you desire in there. It would probably sound better and be more comfortable actually. And not only that you would have done two things doing it this way, saving a nice bit o money, and you wouldnt have a guitar thats somebody elses.
Plus, those Gibson guitars were bad examples, you dont know a slash or page models are them until you have a close look, im talking about like JEMs or music mans or satchs, ya know what i mean? I dont know, good point, but i still disagree a bit.
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I know what ya mean, theres a lot of people on here that are funny, and a lot that know what there talking about. Then we get the noob comin in here acting like jackass's while everyone flames them and its just funny. Its been a pretty entertaining environment, for a while it wasnt, but just recently (this week) it has been.
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I guess when it comes down to it. Everyone should us the guitar that they like and they dont deserve shit from anyone who doesnt agree with it.
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well put actually, ^
I agree alot, but for me personally, i am a custom guy, and i love to tweak my guitars constantly, so if i want a thinner neck or different sound, ill sand the neck and coil split the pickups, i dont know, just some stuff like that.
My comment about the les pauls tho, is if you like the fast necks of the slash model and the Page model, why dont you just get a fast guitar, like a jackson soloist. And to get that les paul tone, make it a mahogany body and put the pickups you desire in there. It would probably sound better and be more comfortable actually. And not only that you would have done two things doing it this way, saving a nice bit o money, and you wouldnt have a guitar thats somebody elses.
Plus, those Gibson guitars were bad examples, you dont know a slash or page models are them until you have a close look, im talking about like JEMs or music mans or satchs, ya know what i mean? I dont know, good point, but i still disagree a bit.
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Well done , at last a person who knows how to debate with out throwing crap , well done my man
I do have Deans and ESPs and LTDs as well and oh yeah a Strat with HSS , But IMHO the Les paul in my hands , Not a fat 50s neck , thats like playing a baseball bat but a thinner 60s neck , Ill play just as fast as if I was playing a Jackson , but actually since jackson has a different type of neck , Id probably struggle on the Jackson .
Look a paul is not for everybody , I love flying Vs, I have a Dean , A gibson and a LTD mustaine , alot of peeps hate Vs, I also love Explorers , I hate double cutaways , So PRS are out for me , The point being if you like it its good and you will play good on it , To each their own ,
Tell ya the truth Im in love with the LTD 1000 series , they are kick ass for less than a grand
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Dude , to be honest , I like alot of that stuff My dying Bride , Death , James Murphy , Testament , Dimmu , the haunted , at the Gates , Vader , Amorphis COB , Machine head SYL , not every one being death I realize, Cynic is great as is messhugah , Ok I grant you I made a dum generalization , point well taken
cheers to you , see that wasnt so bad , you presented a valid argument without telling me im a asshole , and i granted you you were right
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Exactly, I ahve no problem with you, except for that broad generalization, everything else is just petty arguments that both parties are to blame for. All I'm saying is technical death metal bands has some amazing guitarists in them.
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No. Too corny for me.
He means tech death as in the bands he mentioned: stuff like necrophagist, sleep terror, cynic ,atheist....
Oh, and I dont want to stir the pot but your generalization did suck.
Just be civil, okay? From less-annoying noob to unwittingly annoying noob.
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well sorry you think my generalizations suck , well if you read half the threads , Ones im not even involved with the generalizations in those threads I suppose are great. Ive already said the dude was a great player , Ok I bet if I mentioned half my influence you go they suck , but so what , who cares , do you care if I like what you like.and I love when peeps say not to stir the pot , thats bullshirt , You want to stir the pot.
The problem I have with most Death Metal , now please hear me out , is 2 fold , first off the guitar can be great but I cant stand cookie monster type singing. I need to hear the singer , Thats why I like Lefay , Cathedral , Candlemass , Nevermore , Running Wild , Primal Fear , Even COb soilwork , theyre fine but I hate the singing where its untelligble death growls. just my opinion, secondly . Ive seen Cannibal Corpse , The haunted , Dimmu , who I like , morbid Angel , arch enemy plus many many more. Some are great live bands , but some I dont know if its the sound guys but their mix sounds like shit .Everything is piled together and you cant tell one thing from another.
Im old Skool , I have to have a band where the singer can sing, the guitar players can solo . just my taste. sorry
I love the amott brothers great great players , but I dont listen to Arch enemy because IMHO the singer sucks , I love spiritual Beggars though.
But if you are going to stir the pot ,at least be honest dude
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Just be aware that whenever you claim that death metal guitarists can't solo, its akin to claiming that marathon runners are out of shape.
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point well taken , but wanna hear how that comment was made , I had asked about the John 5 telley , some assclown stated fuck john 5 so I retorted back mainly to be a smart ass that Comment , I think the quote was something like , well at least he can (john 5) solo not like those death metal dudes , The dude was I talking to was obviously a deth metal dude so it was directed as a jab at him
\ alot of those cats are classically trained musicians , Most of them can play like gods, especialy the Euros !man , Like I said theres something in the water over in those countries sweden , finland etc.
And if truth be told for once did I or did I not give proper respect . I did , not to defend myself. but how many cats in this place will ever admit shit, they rather be boiled in a vat of boiling pig grease than do say wow man , Ahhhh I wuz wrong dude.
And last point , see Mr. Holland that wasnt so bad , I didnt call you names you didnt call me any names we discussed the issue , and it was cool. thats my point .
I dont mind being shown Im wrong in any area , fuck the reason I started on this forum was to learn shit , I have a garage worth of gear but at the same time I never played a Framus , or a Engl or a Krank , I want to hear what peeps have to say about the shit I dont know , if I could help some dudes out with shit Ive played or know about , than thats cool. too. So if we all stop throwing shit <ill stop too.
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wel mr. fox, you claim most people's posts aren't relevant, but somebody posts "Fuck john 5" and you reply "I don't like death metal"
Realy, even tough it may be the most populair genre right now, please don't think people here ONLY listen to death metal, or we ALL listen to death metal.
In fact, my favourite genre's are Black, Prog (NOT DREAM THEATRE!!) and Doom, with a little bit of thrash now and then. I can stand power and heavy, and sometimes I listen to, yes, death. And I also listen to more classic hard rock. Please stop generalizing.
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been there done that ,ive explained my generalization, and brainsy its cool that you listen to alot of shit , it broadens your horizons , Will the defenders of death metal take a deep breath , Ive already granted that alot of those guys are dynamite players , ok so now what do you have to toss out at me nowthat been settled
.And again I was frosting some dudes nuts because I had asked about the john 5 telley , if he didnt know or care , he didnt have to be a quiff and respond fuck john 5 , So I pretty much retorted fuck death metal , but it was more tongue in cheek , I respect anybody who plays music no matter what level , I will jam with anybody anytime no matter what genre. So lighten up
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Eat at Joe's, shut up, its over. And I did NOT mean Sleep terror, they are not fucking technical, and they suck.
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Yeah, sorry about that.
I should stop now before everyone thinks I'm an asshole......wait, they already do, without hardly coming into contact with me. Ah well. John 5 is a pretty good shredder, but his whole goth schtick is sort of inappropriate for a shredder, not to mention incredibly gay. I can't imagine Fenders being good for metal-too much of a wiry, trebly tone, although Iron Maiden always have a great tone with their strats.
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i think i was the one who said fuck john five. i diddnt mean to piss anyone off, well like really piss anyone off. just fuckin around. im not really into most death metal. i love the guitar. well what they are playing. most of the time i hate the tone and espacially the vocals. mosat i can stand but that stuff that souds like pigs or w/e. thats the most stupid crap imo. i consider myself to be one of the most mild mannered ppl on here. hmm. its late and im dead tired so.
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Most of these guys whether it be john 5 ,maiden , zakk ,have all their shit so moded , its sick ,
Most of these pros , never use straight off the guitar stores shelves shit , their techs mode the crap out their rigs , and most of you guys if you know what your doing or know somebody who does can tweak your guitars and rigs to sound just like you want.
Yeh John 5 reminds me of a blonde version of the joker ,
The reason I asked about the 5 telley , I kinda always wanted a telley , And I figured the John 5 one looked kinda unique.
but after thinking about it, Ill pass on it , it dont seem to be selling too good , theres not one review of it HC.
Besides I got enough shit for awhile .
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Shut it, joke character. Why do I get the feeling that this is one of Chris'?
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Man you need some prozac , were you voted most likely to commit serial muder in your class , why do you always get your tits in a tizzy , and why is it u never know what the fuck you are talk about ,
whether you like john 5 or not ,the unmistakable fact ole dicksection he is a better player than most of your death metal no talent muthafriggers , he can solo at least
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This was how the death metal comment got started in response to the prior post. actually I like alot of those players.
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2005-08-27, 20:18
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well young man , there would be no need to hurl shit if you knew how to post without insulting this or that , you always have a negative comment , your not always right as is any one else except me of course
if you want to have differing opinions thats fine but you always engage in verbal combat and as you know I enjoy the joust so I give it back at ya, look its nothing personal im sure your a ok cat , Id even go to the pub with ya and have some suds but you are probably too young to drink ,
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Early attempt to stop hurling the shit.
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2005-08-27, 20:20
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Yeah I did , So you dont have to re do ,
Look I like alot of those bands , usually hate the cookie monster singing , I ve always liked the swedish melodic metal bands ,Alot of them are skilled players COB , Soilwork , Messugah, arch Etc, that MP3 the guitar is excellent , I hate the growling shit but then again alot of people hate King Diamond , Who I love .
Look its all good , there is no right or wrong , its what ever floats your boat , I didnt come on the board to fight with anyone , Im a self confessed gear junkie , Im old enough and have enough money , not saying im a rich dude or nothing to try alot of stuff and buy alot of stuff guitars , gear what have you , so I came here hopefully trying to learn some shit , I have friends that are in touring bands , another friend owns major guitar store specializing in Gibson , ESP etc , usually where I get great deals on my shit , The only problem is that dude while he knows his shit is older than me and thus is very old school , plug your Gibson SG into a JCM 800 and theyre you go, Hes not into the new framus or Englsor what not,
Anyway like i said I didnt come to fight and argue but at the same time if you hurl shit Ill hurl it back, I grew up in Brooklyn ,thats in NYC for those who dont know ,
hopefully we all can discuss sometimes argue shit but keep it respectable
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And Another attempt.
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That was really called for.
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Dude , to be honest , I like alot of that stuff My dying Bride , Death , James Murphy , Testament , Dimmu , the haunted , at the Gates , Vader , Amorphis COB , Machine head SYL , not every one being death I realize, Cynic is great as is messhugah , Ok I grant you I made a dum generalization , point well taken
cheers to you , see that wasnt so bad , you presented a valid argument without telling me im a asshole , and i granted you you were right
So Ok we agree to agree.
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See that wasnt so hard
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If you want a kick ass tele.....put a SD hot rails in the bridge (get an American Tele) it will knock you on your ass how good it sounds! And btw, John 5 has 2 Teles and the other one has hot rails. I have a Les Paul w/81-85 , a jackson dr-3 w/ 81-85's, A Schecter PT with SD JB/Jazz, A Strat with hot rails in the bridge, and a Hamer Eclipse and it out metals all of them. My buddies think so also.
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LMFAO!!
Im sure fox guitar appreciates your input.
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2006-08-15, 21:33
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There's no rule that says you can't use Strats or Teles for metal, hell, back in the days of old Cryptopsy, Alex used a Strat, Morgan from Marduk uses a Strat, Mercyful Fate used Strats [ok a lil' old school example but c'mon], basically as some dude put it here in another thread any guitar with a humbucking pickup in the bridge position should work fine.
Besides, I found from personal experience that the best way to get those glassy, super-wet cutting chorus clean tones is through a single-coil guitar a la a Strat or especially a Tele [big Tele fan here.] If you play blues, the single coil offers that punch that a humbucker just doesn't have. If not for metal, I'd definetly get a Fender just for versatility, though I'm pretty sure there are better and cheaper single-coil guitars out there for the $$$.
What I'm, basically saying is don't get caught up with labels or looks - something that big manufacturers like Gibson or Fender want the guitar buying public to do. Please don't get caught up in guitar discrimination
As for John 5 - I mean John Lowery - he's one monster player, that's a fact. It was funny seeing him in an old Laney catalog [the one where Tony Iommi debuts his signature stack] all blonde and clean cut and pretty boy looking, and then hearing and seeing that he joined Manson's band. Whatever, gotta pay the bills somehow.
I think the hatred towards John stems solely from the fact he's married to none other than Aria Giovanni.
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i think teles are fucking great, i have been using one for 6 years, it is a very versatile guit-fiddle.
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Nop never played a tele.For me, john 5 is a decent guitar player with a lil cool shit here and there mostly driven by his country style.Impressed me once to get a tele but maybe not enough for me to go and buy it.
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