Quick question,

Was anyone else as disapointed as I was listening to this CD? I found it utterly boring except for a song or two.

Disapointed. Wasted 13 bucks :/

Same,Track 11 is the only song I listen to on it now.

Yeah sounded lame when I listened to samples of each song.

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I've not heard it yet but I like what Meshuggah are doing but, I find I can't listen to a whole album all the way through as it does my tits in!

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if i remember correctly, the first 4 songs share the same exact riff.

Meshuggah should make another Contradictions Collapse. that was a good album.

Yeah, I noticed that to. I thought it was just me.

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It's all one song. There aren't four songs.The first four tracks are the same riff, which is repeated because, y'know, songs tend to have the same riff for the duration of certain parts. I'm getting sick of repeating this.

I was somewhat disappointed, but not hugely. I wasn't really amped for it, though.

Wrong. Only the first three tracks do, and their total length is 3.57. Over done just a bit, I agree. And it is becoming popular to hate this album, which is why I'm posting this, and this post only. If I stay, it'll turn into a whore-a-thon on my part, and someone else who disagrees with me.

Loved the album. The fact that it was a drum machine doesn't bother me, and i don't know why it should anyone.

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i know it's meant to be only one song but repeating the same riff for 4 minutes?

EOS "Crimson II" shared the concept and managed to have very few repetitions and/or riffs for a long amount of time.

having a 40 minute song is not an excuse to shove the same riff into your ears over and over.

Its not like its a shit riff though. And they vary it up a little bit, if you want to be a technical whore.

Whether you "disagree" with me, which I'll see alot of shit from TTA about, is not the case. Its the fact that one person who doesn't enjoy Meshuggah comments that they don't like it, and every other sheepish fuck agrees just to look cool, and this is one of those cases. I'm not accusing anyone, but everyone has the same stupid complaints about it. I don't see anyone else in here attempting to make any Post-Thrash albums. Hmm? Anyone have the balls to post their link and compare their body of work to this album?

Beats it, 9/10 times.

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True, but there's a huge difference between Swano and Thordendal as songwriters. Plus Edge of Sanity had a lot of material to draw on from the original Crimson album. Actually, speaking of which, one of the melodies from the original keeps showing up, over and over again, on Crimson II. Actually, a lot of the riffs and such repeat throughout, he just breaks it up more. You one from a handful of riffs on virtually every track. Yeah, the more I listen to this the less impressed I am by your argument.

Anyway, slightly more on topic: Meshuggah have been like this for pretty much the entire time I've listened to them. Their riffs always go through a lot of repetitions in their songs; it's only to be expected that, in a really long song, they'd have really long repetitions.

That said, you don't have to like it.

why in heavens should you see "a lot of shit" from me?

i have nothing against you.

indeed.

Well,

You must be one unique music enthusist. You have your opinion and I have mine. My opinion is as follows:

Music is something that you enjoy, you have to be able to play it over and over again and you have to be able to move to it. If you can't knod your head to it, you're basically just putting up with it. That whole CD bored me so damn much, not even masturbation would bring back the joy it took.

Meshuggahs old stuff was nice, but I can see the artistic side of this CD, I mean its awsome they made the whole CD the way that it is. But the point that I do not understand is that, how are you supposed to enjoy this CD? It's the most tedious thing I've heard to date.

Some songs are good, others are just 'baggage'.

I'll give it a 6, at most.

This thread was to ask the opinion of an album that I had purchased from those that browse this section. Do you see me trashing the album in my initial post? No. All I asked if it was just me, or if anyone else felt that way.
I don't see how you can agree to a question. You have my respect in defending this album, and thats fine with me. But you definately have gone overbored with the "to look cool" stuff. Only a few people commented about the CD, not a score.

And define "body of work". Riffs is one thing, drum machine is another. Creativity factor makes up for the body of the album, but it doesn't for the missing instrumental. If you're getting technical here, then you have to see that this isn't a CD to get technical on. Anyone can go on FLStudio and make a beat, add synth and record their guitars over it. I've done it myself. The clear point of this is to make it enjoyable, not redundant.

This album sucks and Meshuggah has always been way overrated in my book. Hey, we play in 23/16 time signatures. Who gives a crap.

Stop it. All of you, just stop it. Stop crying.

It's called constructive crticism, it's a discussion topic.

If you can't get some decensy to accept it, I suggest you the crying.

C33 is a difficult album to appreciate but you all complain about it as if Meshuggz are showing off. You obviously don't read, except for hear/say and trend-act in the threads. This is the kind of music Meshuggz 'think' in and create off the top of their heads, at least since Nothing. C33 is their natural musical perception.

They aren't showing off their 23's/16, they are simply playing them. C33 is brilliant. It's hard to write music that bendy and atonal. And no one has quite done anything like this yet. Closing off music like this means we will never really do anything in music...

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I totally agree with you Unanything. This album is amazing, u just need to appreciaite their style. Each to his own i say.

Yeah, you try pulling off goofy time signatures. Its one thing to write it on accident, but then try to play it with drums, and a full band.

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Its cool that they tried to do something like this but they should have changed it up a little bit, The album does get boring after listening to similar riffs over & over.

But honestly, what does it matter how complicated and tough it is to play if it still sounds bad? It is still music and should be enjoyed when listened to, not listened to because it's complex. You can release the most technical piece of music known to man, but if it sounds shitty I won't listen to it, and neither will most people.

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Toche'

No kidding. PST and I dicussed this the other night.

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Actually, most people will listen to it, if you put it out right now or in the next year or two.

You have no idea what I can and can't pull off. Technicality doesn't mean jack if the music is boring and repetitive. Someone will always be better on the guitar and come up with more technical stuff than someone else. It's the quality of the song and how it makes me feel that matters.

No SHIT. DUUUR HURRR HURR. Shut the fuck up.

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I've heard a few songs from it. Didn't seem too bad, but I'm not a huge meshuggah fan so I don't have as much of an opinion.

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I like old Meshuggah better. I think the albums ok but I dont think they should have went with the "one song" idea again. "I" was good enough for me. I think their just trying to keep it original.

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Fuckin word. Their best album for sure.

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No you shut up poopy head.

Call me when you get out of high school and stop listening to limp wristed crap.

their older stuff is definatly better. I and C33 suck ballsack. If you dont listen to the entire album its pretty much pointless to slap it in the stereo. I hate how i have to fast foreward I through all the boring repetitive parts. C33 sucks because they split each "song" into 3 or more tracks.

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C33 isn't that technical really. Ask it's tabbers (me! And a dude called krishnamurti)! It does have some very technical moments and one imposibly weird rhythmically-technical moment (post-spoken word riff in Dehumanization), but, it isn't really. It's just the atonality can make it seem overwhelming. The ambient jazz chords at the end can be quite technical too, I suppose.

I enjoy C33 for listening. It fits the way I think well.

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I love Meshuggah,but this album is shitty.

This album is boring as fuck except 2 songs, After you listen to those you pretty much listened to the whole album because it really doesnt change all that much. I couldnt imagine spending money to see this live, unless it was at a coffee shop where you could keep drinking high powered coffee to keep awake! Seriously i would put this album on before i would go to sleep, like one of those wave sound machines people use to help them fall asleep.

I just gave the album a listen and it is pretty boring, It's not really the kind of stuff i'd listen to usually, but saying that i don't think it's complete shit or anything. The best bit for me was the bit at the start of mind's mirrors... then the vocals start and ruin it haha

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