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Old 2005-07-26, 04:25
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ESP SV Standard

I've tried searching but since you cant search for ESP or SV since the words are too small i thought i'd make a post. I really like and want the Alexi ESP custom but it's way over my price range ($5000ish).. Now the SV Standard is pretty much the same thing. Well close enough. And obviously i like it very much. Everywhere i look the retail on it is close to $3000, but these guys have it for $1500

http://www.guitarbargains.com/product.lasso?pr=32565

Too good to be true? Anyone have experience with this guitar? I would like it over the RR1 Rhodes because of the 24 frets and EMG81 pickups. Also i think the quality is top notch since its a high end ESP. What do you guys think? That deal for $1500 seems almost too good.

http://www.bmusic.com.au/images/aesvstandard.jpg

Listprice : USD 2831.75
Our Price : USD 1521.19

BODY : Alder
NECK : Maple
FINGERBOARD : Ebony with White binding
CONSTRUCTION : Thru
SCALE : 25.5"
TUNERS : Deluxe Gotoh
BRIDGE : Original Floyd Rose
HARDWARE COLOUR: Chrome , Gold
FRET : 24 / XJ
NECK PICKUP : EMG81
BRIDGE PICKUP : EMG81
CONTROL : 1 Volume , 3way toggle switch

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Old 2005-07-26, 04:54
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Doesn’t the Alexi model come with EMG-HZ pickups? The one you’re looking at has the active set and an original FR and it’s an ESP (not LTD). I’m not an expert with ESP prices but it sounds like a pretty sweet guitar to me.

P.S. I’d go for the black with gold hardware like this:
ESP SV (Black / Gold)
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Old 2005-07-26, 05:19
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Doesn’t the Alexi model come with EMG-HZ pickups? The one you’re looking at has the active set and an original FR and it’s an ESP (not LTD). I’m not an expert with ESP prices but it sounds like a pretty sweet guitar to me.

P.S. I’d go for the black with gold hardware like this:
ESP SV (Black / Gold)


Yes that is exactly what i want. I only showed the white one because thats the only picture i found of it. But the black is definately what i would go for. Sooooo nice
 
Old 2005-07-26, 10:17
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guitars are always sold for 50 PERCENT OFF tEH RETAILSZ! Its one big, overused marketing tactic.
 
Old 2005-07-26, 14:54
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ino you probably dont wanna hear this and im sure its been said before, but you can probably get a custom ran with those exact specs or alexis specs for a lot cheaper.
 
Old 2005-07-26, 15:00
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Those Laiho sig models are horribly overpriced. $1500 seems a little too much for an alder body, but you got those active pickups and an OFR plus some good tuners thrown in. I still think it's overpriced quite a bit. You can get everything you're looking for if you buy a Jackson RX10D for $470, pop in EMG pickups for $150-200, and later on change the bridge to something like a Kahler if you don't like the tremolo it has(I've heard good things about it. And you STILL would be paying less than the ESP SV. Here's a pic of the RX10D: http://images.misupply.com/products...ckson/71274.jpg

And yes, you can get a much better quality RAN custom for less than that price.
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Old 2005-07-26, 15:01
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ino you probably dont wanna hear this and im sure its been said before, but you can probably get a custom ran with those exact specs or alexis specs for a lot cheaper.



get a ran... it will play 8 billion times better, and it will be totally to your specs... and you wont look like a trendy kid buying alexi's guitar because you love him so much, and you're his most hardcore fan and yeah.... hahaha...
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Old 2005-07-26, 15:46
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ino you probably dont wanna hear this and im sure its been said before, but you can probably get a custom ran with those exact specs or alexis specs for a lot cheaper.

thats what i did i was originially gonna get one of those guitars until i saw ran
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Old 2005-07-26, 15:48
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Those Laiho sig models are horribly overpriced. $1500 seems a little too much for an alder body, but you got those active pickups and an OFR plus some good tuners thrown in. I still think it's overpriced quite a bit. You can get everything you're looking for if you buy a Jackson RX10D for $470, pop in EMG pickups for $150-200, and later on change the bridge to something like a Kahler if you don't like the tremolo it has(I've heard good things about it. And you STILL would be paying less than the ESP SV. Here's a pic of the RX10D: http://images.misupply.com/products...ckson/71274.jpg

And yes, you can get a much better quality RAN custom for less than that price.

what would be the better of the body woods out there if alder is a cheaper? i just got alder on my ran cause alexi had it on his RR along with some other people. I would thing mahogany would be pretty nice.
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Old 2005-07-26, 16:59
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if u have that money u can buy somthing better than that.
 
Old 2005-07-26, 17:07
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Alder is one of the cheaper woods. Doesn't really matter if you're using actives, it's actually a wiser choice to use less expensive woods for EMG-equipped guitars. But yeah, if you're going to pay that much, I'd at LEAST expect some more expensive wood like mahogany and some really good passive pickups like SD's or Dimarzios. The neck/fingerboard woods are good though. Still, it's going to sting when you realize that so many cheap-ass guitars are built from the same wood.

Wait, you already ordered a RAN? Congratu-fucking-lations.
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Old 2005-07-26, 17:21
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check out h4x5k8's RR guitar, it looks a bit like that guitar

http://ranguitars.floriandecher.de/custInvader.html

its fuckin sweet man, check that shit out

i dunno how much it cost, but im sure its not as much as that SV.

obviously you would email them and tell them what shape you want the headstock and the body to look like with all your harware, finish and wood options.

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Wait, you already ordered a RAN? Congratu-fucking-lations.


who just ordered a ran?

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Old 2005-07-26, 17:32
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ME! I ordered mine like a year ago though. I asked around and researched alder, didnt think it was a cheap wood. My ran ended costing around 1800 USD cause of all the shipping and customs. But if i were to buy it straight out of polan it would be 1090 euros or 1300 USD so a little less than the SV. I plan on getting a second ran with a kahler and ill probably go for mahogany wood or somthing. I dunno shit about woods so ill research a little more.

Edit and yes i did get nice fingerboard and neck and SD pups, but alder body
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Old 2005-07-26, 20:14
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I don't like the SV that much, sure it's nice, but I'd rather have a USA Jackson for a cheaper price. The RR body seems better balanced.
 
Old 2005-07-26, 22:25
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Thanks for the replies. I am after 24 frets, that's why the RR1 is not on the list even though its a nice guitar. I like the idea of getting a custom Ran, but i wouldn’t know where to start in terms of what to spec out. Plus, im sure the price of the Ran would be about the same as what the SV would cost me. Would the Ran be that much better than the SV? Also, having 1 year for a guitar would be a big factor for me. Is that really the turn around time for a Ran?

If I were in fact to spec out a ran what would you guys recommend? Considering I like the Alexi model and the COB sound along with other power metal bands.

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Old 2005-07-26, 22:30
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I think the RR looks nicer too imo. and avoid guitarbargains ESP japan is on thier ass for being dodgy as hell, offering to sell japan only models and other stuff, the mod on the uk board really ripped into them, and they dont add all the taxes onto the site price....

I'd avoid them if you can..

RX10D with upgrades and new hardware I highly doubt it be as good as an ESP standard somehow... not to mention the difference between 22 and 24 frets....

The ESP isnt a bad choice allthough you might want to look at some of the edwards you can get from japan similar specs but slightly cheaper, allthough I like the SV's and dont think they are that overpriced...

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Old 2005-07-27, 00:01
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Why not get an ESP DV-8? It's not a RR shape, but it's a V, and it's $800 and comes with SD JB/Jazz. If you REALLY don't like the SD combo, you can pop in some EMG's too.
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Old 2005-07-27, 00:02
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Thanks for the replies. I am after 24 frets, that's why the RR1 is not on the list even though its a nice guitar. I like the idea of getting a custom Ran, but i wouldn’t know where to start in terms of what to spec out. Plus, im sure the price of the Ran would be about the same as what the SV would cost me. Would the Ran be that much better than the SV? Also, having 1 year for a guitar would be a big factor for me. Is that really the turn around time for a Ran?

If I were in fact to spec out a ran what would you guys recommend? Considering I like the Alexi model and the COB sound along with other power metal bands.

Thanks!



i'd say:

*Alexi Laiho RRV Shaped Body
*Alder Body
*Neck-Thru Maple Neck (clear finished)
*Ebony Fret Board
*24 Frets
*ESP Pointy Headstock
*ACTIVE EMGs
(they sound MUCH better than the emg passives that laiho uses)
*EMG 81 Bridge
*EMG 85 Neck
(ino laiho only uses a bridge pickup, but trust me, YOU will eventually be really pissed off and annoyed that you didnt chose a neck pickup)
*official floyd rose bridge (with locking nut)
*1 volume knob
*3 way pickup selector
*pickup rings
(ran dont use pickup rings unless you ask for them...well i think so...best to ask anyway)

then say what paint job you want, what inlays you and what colour hardware you want on the guitar.
to make it more like an alexi guitar, get a paint job and inlays to match one of his guitars.

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Old 2005-07-27, 00:31
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get a ran... it will play 8 billion times better, and it will be totally to your specs... and you wont look like a trendy kid buying alexi's guitar because you love him so much, and you're his most hardcore fan and yeah.... hahaha...

I should have seen this coming, every time some poor bastard wants help with a purchase some one always tells him to buy a ran. Geez, do they pay you guys?
As far as the guitar goes, you could go to Jackson or ESP and get a quote on a custom one. having some one else's sig guitar is kinda lame, unless its a Rhoads.
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Old 2005-07-27, 01:00
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Those Laiho sig models are horribly overpriced. $1500 seems a little too much for an alder body, but you got those active pickups and an OFR plus some good tuners thrown in. I still think it's overpriced quite a bit. You can get everything you're looking for if you buy a Jackson RX10D for $470, pop in EMG pickups for $150-200, and later on change the bridge to something like a Kahler if you don't like the tremolo it has(I've heard good things about it. And you STILL would be paying less than the ESP SV. Here's a pic of the RX10D: http://images.misupply.com/products...ckson/71274.jpg

And yes, you can get a much better quality RAN custom for less than that price.


All ESP's are overpriced.

My favourite wood is alder, there's no logic in saying $1500 is too much to pay for alder. It's light, has a sweet bright high end and great mids and lows. There will be a big difference in wood quality between the sig model and the RX10D too, it's probably not the same grade. However, the lack of tonewood in the RR shaped guitars is what turns me off.
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Old 2005-07-27, 06:28
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All ESP's are overpriced.

My favourite wood is alder, there's no logic in saying $1500 is too much to pay for alder. It's light, has a sweet bright high end and great mids and lows. There will be a big difference in wood quality between the sig model and the RX10D too, it's probably not the same grade. However, the lack of tonewood in the RR shaped guitars is what turns me off.


As ive said before, not all alder is crap. Theres good alder and bad alder... not to mention all the different factors involved in turning the wood into a guitar.
 
Old 2005-07-27, 06:41
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I've posted this before, and I'm not sure on how to order them or anything, but these are nice.

http://www.ikebe-gakki.com/shopping...=&start_index=0
 
Old 2005-07-27, 10:52
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I should have seen this coming, every time some poor bastard wants help with a purchase some one always tells him to buy a ran. Geez, do they pay you guys?
As far as the guitar goes, you could go to Jackson or ESP and get a quote on a custom one. having some one else's sig guitar is kinda lame, unless its a Rhoads.


o do shut the fuck up
do you even know why we always suggest ran?
well in case you are as stupid as you seem, we suggest ran in most cases because you can get an amazingly good quality custom guitar for the same price as a high ranged stock guitar and im sure we all know which one we would get.
we're just saying this to help him save money or get a better guitar for the same price.

getting a custom jackson or esp is EXPENSIVE. i think it was soulinsane who said his custom ran would have cost about $4000 if he had ordered it from jackon or esp (well i think thats what it was).

most people arent willing to splash out $4000 on a guitar. if your a rich boy go ahead and pay that much, im not going to stop you. but most of us arent rich and wanna get the best for our money.
 
Old 2005-07-27, 11:03
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I've posted this before, and I'm not sure on how to order them or anything, but these are nice.

http://www.ikebe-gakki.com/shopping...=&start_index=0


for all you non japanese speaking people, make sense of it by using this babelfish

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

its an online translator
paste the website into that page, choose what language conversion you want (japanese to english) and the press go.

it translates every link and other website you open aswell
 
Old 2005-07-27, 11:47
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The dudes allready said he wants 24 frets plus the neck through does makea difference easier acces on the SV/RV's too..

Maybe people sugget Rans cause they can get one with the specs they want for a great price, allthough its not as good in the US...

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o do shut the fuck up
do you even know why we always suggest ran?
well in case you are as stupid as you seem, we suggest ran in most cases because you can get an amazingly good quality custom guitar for the same price as a high ranged stock guitar and im sure we all know which one we would get.
we're just saying this to help him save money or get a better guitar for the same price.

getting a custom jackson or esp is EXPENSIVE. i think it was soulinsane who said his custom ran would have cost about $4000 if he had ordered it from jackon or esp (well i think thats what it was).

most people arent willing to splash out $4000 on a guitar. if your a rich boy go ahead and pay that much, im not going to stop you. but most of us arent rich and wanna get the best for our money.


i asked jackson to do it, they said would be like 4500 and esp was 5000
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i asked jackson to do it, they said would be like 4500 and esp was 5000


there you go! another perfect example!

thats exactly why i and others go on about ran all the time. they make great guitars for a fraction of the price of competitors.
 
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there you go! another perfect example!

thats exactly why i and others go on about ran all the time. they make great guitars for a fraction of the price of competitors.


Even with all the customs and shipping and shit you have to pay extra, it's still way less than any other company doing customs...
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Old 2005-07-27, 15:50
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there you go! another perfect example!


Well, technically, it was the same example, used again...
 
Old 2005-07-27, 18:18
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Well, technically, it was the same example, used again...


well, yea your rite, i guess i used the wrong word

but you get what im on about
 
Old 2005-07-27, 22:11
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thanks again for the replies guys. So many nice guitars. Kind of funny how if you want anything you need to go to Japan or Poland etc. You'll never see that stuff walking into a guitar shop in Canada (where i live). You cant even order that stuff from a US or Canadian retailer. Whats up with that crap?
 
Old 2005-07-27, 22:51
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thanks again for the replies guys. So many nice guitars. Kind of funny how if you want anything you need to go to Japan or Poland etc. You'll never see that stuff walking into a guitar shop in Canada (where i live). You cant even order that stuff from a US or Canadian retailer. Whats up with that crap?


lol, yea i was wondering the same thing a lil while ago when i saw a limited edition ibanez of my dreams on a japanese website

too bad i hadnt discovered babelfish or i might have been able to buy it
 
Old 2005-07-27, 23:12
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you know this, guys in the same place as i am, and i just came accross these SV guitars myself

seems im one of at least 3 or 4 people on ONE forum willing to pay a pretty penny for a 24 FRET FOR GOD SAKE rhoads
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