These are one thing i have overlooked up until now, can someone please explain the whole theory behind them.

EDIT: i just read through GD's post about reading sheet music and now I understand how they work at least. What else should i know?

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its what happens when people get too lazy to put sharps next to notes

not really, just easy on the eye

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gah i know the rules but im sure as hell not typing them out

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I cant really remember what I put in that thread so Ill just give a basic rundown here on how to tell what key sig it is in.

the order of the sharps when writing out the key sig goes
FCGDAEB
so if your key sig is D you will have 2 sharps so they would be F,C
if your key was B you would have 5 sharps and they would be F,C,G,D,A,
the order of them is important for when your writing them out and trying to figuer them out.if you know the key sig your in then you figuer out the sharps this way: say you were in the key of B to find out what sharps you would have, go down a half step(A#) so now you know that you have all the sharps up to A in that order. if you have the key sig though and dont know what key it is then you would go to the last sharp (in the case of B) it would be A# then you raise it up a half step (to B) and thats the key your in

if your key has flats in them then the order of them goes
BEADGCF (backwards from the sharps)

so if your in Bb then you have B,E for flats
if your in Gb you have B,E,A,D,G,C for flats

if you know the key your in and want to figuer it out then you can take the order of flats (beadgcf) and go to the key your in, then go up one more and those are the flats you have. so if your in the key of Ab, you find a (beAdgcf) and go up one more to d - so you have bead for flats in the key of A.
if you have the key sig but dontknow what key it is, then you go to the second to the last flat in the signiture and thats the key you are in

its a little much to take in at first but its really easy trust me

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Google fore the Circle of 5ths diagram, that explains it in an easy to rememebr way, it's what I rememebr from college.

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Ol! holy shit dude, i have seen you in forever. Are you still the 80's metal master?

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can be remembered like this


Father Charles Goes Down And Ends Battle





BEAD-GCF

just say itoutloud

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i remember it with the Bead-gcf way

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The Circle of Fifths really put things into perspective, now it all makes sense.

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I remember BEAD-GCF using BEAD Good Country Fudge

Oh god with the little remember them by acronyms. . . screw that. . . Just remember the circle of fifths then when you need to know what order to put them in for flats. . . it's the mirror of it or the relative circle of fourths(same thing as circle of fifth's just the counter clockwise).

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whatever works for them man, it doesnt matter how do you remember as long as you can

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Eh. . . well I remember you from way back. . . and while acronyms are okay(for learning purposes) it helps to learn the actual theory behind why it is the way it is. That's the only reason why I don't rely on acronyms and stuff. . . because I would forget to learn the ideas that are truly presented in it. Like I said when I first talked to you though Demon. . I come off a bit rough. . .

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very true, but most people here are just starting to learn their theory so acronims are a good way to go until they have down the basics and 'know' what theyre doing, then they can go back and learn that e is a 5th from B ( or a 4th depending on how you look at it)

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haha yeah but acronyms are fantastic. i still use them for remembering stuff all the time. youre just a hot shot who thinks that everyone should be on your level :P

acronyms come in handy all the time... and you shouldnt be ashamed for using them

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Eh, I wish I were a hotshot. Like my profile says I'm just a low level worm(except not in the same terminology).

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im just teasing anyways. hopefully after you use the acronym enough, you stop needing it

however, i still said every good boy deserves fudge aftear a full year of music theory class

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Yeh I think I used FACE for a while also, but I learned all the treble cleft positions when I was fairly young, I still suck with bass cleft.

Except for when I was learning how to read sheet music, I never really use acronyms, I just have a pictographic memory, I see things and I have a memory of what it looks like in my head.