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Old 2005-07-21, 04:23
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8 String Guitar

So the other day i was sitting around listening to "I" by Meshuggah when i realize, hey, they do a pretty good job with an 8 string guitar so maybe i should try it out. So now comes my question, does anyone know of a place to buy an 8 string guitar? Preferably 500-600 maybe 650. But, i started out as a bass player so i am a pretty big fan of the low end. I looked and MF and Music 123 and they seem to only have 7 strings so im not sure where else to look. The only problem is, i dont know if there will be any in my price range, but if you can, go for it. Thank you.
 
Old 2005-07-21, 04:38
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I'm pretty sure you have to get them custom made. so, that will be expensive.
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Old 2005-07-21, 05:13
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Thats all I've ever seen too. Custom made 8 string guitars. I don't think there is a really big demand for anything more then 7 strings so good luck finding a stock made one.
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Old 2005-07-21, 05:34
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http://www.hamerguitars.com/?fa=series&sid=201 <<< huh? huh? hehe naw...12 string bass...
I don't know anyone who makes 8-strings in mass production...check Ebay maybe...good luck
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That would probably be only a custom made one, and it'll be much more than 500-600. Good luck.
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Old 2005-07-21, 11:24
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Yesterday I ordered my new 8 string guitar from conklin. For that price range your are setting you will never find an 8 string guitar.... I looked too for cheaper guitars but didn't find any... so I went with custom made....
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Old 2005-07-21, 13:50
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Damn What are the specs and how much did it cost if you don't mind me asking?
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you should make one in shop class out of particle board and sheet rock
or like...a tissue box a paper towel roll and some rubber bands
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Old 2005-07-21, 14:00
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Old 2005-07-21, 14:05
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The Bold parts is what I have chosen:

Body Style:
Sidewinder - NC
Crossover - NC
Custom Body Style - $ Contact us for quote

Body Construction:
Bolt On Neck - NC
Neck-Through-Body - $1000
Hollowbody - $1200

Please note that the Hollowbody construction is only available as a bolt-on neck.

Fret Number:
24 Frets - NC
28 Frets - $120
36 Frets - $200

Scale Length:
24 3/4" - NC
25" - NC
25 1/2" - NC
Multi-Scale / Fanned Frets (22 3/4" - 25 1/2") - $300
Multi-Scale / Fanned Frets (25" -27 3/4") - $300

Player Orientation:
Right Handed Instrument - NC
Left Handed Instrument - $100

Body Wood:
Alder - NC
Basswood - NC
Butternut - NC
Cherry - NC
Dragonwood - NC
Koa - $200
Mahogany - NC
Maple - NC
Poplar - NC
Spanish Cedar - NC
Swamp Ash - NC
Walnut - NC

Top Wood:
No Top - NC
Birdseye Maple - $300
Burl Maple - $400
Buckeye Burl - $500
Cocobolo - $300
Curly Maple - $300
Figured Bubinga - $400
Figured Cherry - $300
Figured Koa - $500
Figured Purpleheart - $300
Figured Redwood - $400
Figured Walnut - $500
Lacewood - $300
Quilt Maple - $400
Spalted Maple - $400
Wenge - $300
Zebrawood - $300
Ziricote - $400

Melted Top - $1200 (See Note)

If you are ordering a Melted Top, the price quoted is for standard 3 and 5 piece patterns. For a custom Melted Top (Existing special editions or new designs), please contact us with the idea for a quote.

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Show neck woods on neck-through-body - NC
Full width top on neck-through-body - $200
Flat top - NC
Carved top - $200
Wood pickguard (specify wood) - $300
3-D relief Carving - Please provide artwork for quote

Neck Woods:
Solid Maple (6 string guitars only) - NC
Maple/Purpleheart (Standard on all 7-9 string guitars) - NC
Maple/Bubinga - $200
Maple/Walnut - $200
Maple/Wenge - $200
Wenge/Bubinga - $400
Wenge/Purpleheart - $400
Yellowheart/Purpleheart - $400
Yellowheart/Wenge - $400
Zebrawood/Wenge - $400
Zebrawood/Purpleheart - $400

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Bubinga - NC
Cocobolo - NC
East Indian Rosewood - NC
Figured Bubinga - $100
Gabon (Black) Ebony - $200
Macassar Ebony - $100
Pink Ivory (When available) - $300
Purpleheart - NC
Quartersawn Hard Maple - NC
Wenge - NC
Melted Fingerboard - $600 (See note below)

Exotic Wood Fingerboard Binding (specify wood) - $200

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Centered and side dots - NC

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Headstock:
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Headstock Cap (match top) - $100
Headstock Cap (match fingerboard) - $100
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Seymour Duncan pickups (See note) - NC
DiMarzio pickups (See note) - NC
EMG pickups (See note) - NC

Conklin Custom pickups available for guitars with any number of strings. Please note that Seymour Duncan, DiMarzio and EMG pickups are available for 7 string guitars. Seymour Duncan "Custom Shop" pickups are available for 8 strings, but there may be an additional charge. Bartolini pickups are no longer available.

Electronics:
Active non-tone preamp gain boost - $100
Coil Tap Switch - $30
3-way Switch - $30
5-way Switch - $40

Options for knobs and layout will be discussed at time of order.

Piezos:
Piezos - $60 per saddle/string

MIDI Electronics(requires Piezos):
RMC Polydrive and 13 pin output - $400

Bridge:
Hipshot fixed bridge - NC
ABM Individual bridge/saddles - NC
Tune-o-matic style - NC (Not available for 8 or more strings)
Non-locking tremolo and Sperzel locking tuners - $250
Locking Floyd Rose-style tremolo and Sperzel locking tuners - $350

On guitars with 8 or more strings and fanned frets you are limited to having 8 individual bridge/saddles at no extra charge or having us hand-mill a custom bridge plate. There is a minimum $500 upcharge for a custom compensated hand-milled bridge. Custom tremolos have a minimum $1500 upcharge.

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Gotoh - NC
Hipshot - NC
Schaller - NC
Sperzel - NC
Hipshot De-tuner - $100 per string

All tuners are standard.

Hardware Color:
Chrome - NC
Black - NC
Gold - NC
Satin Chrome - NC

All hardware colors are standard (when available).

Finish:
Polished clearcoat over natural wood - NC
Satin clearcoat over natural wood - NC

See-through Cellophane Stain (only on light colored woods):
- Ruby red - NC
- Sapphire blue - NC
- Emerald green - NC
- Amethyst purple - NC
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- Black-n-blue - $100
- Black-n-green - $100
- Black-n-purple - $100

Basic Opaque colors (Red, White, Black, Blue, Green, Purple) - NC
Sunburst (yellow, orange and red) - $200
Tobacco-burst (red, brown and black) - $200

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The price I dont want to state here

changes in the specs are made in the future during the building process
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Old 2005-07-21, 14:19
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Cool guitar! 28 frets... wow! What does a melted fretboard and headstock look like?

Also I seen you got the tune-o-matic bridge but it said it was not available on 8 string models. I didn't know if you had noticed that or not.
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Old 2005-07-21, 14:28
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Cool guitar! 28 frets... wow! What does a melted fretboard and headstock look like?

Also I seen you got the tune-o-matic bridge but it said it was not available on 8 string models. I didn't know if you had noticed that or not.



thank you.... can't wait to get it!

the melted fretboard looks similiar to this http://www.conklinguitars.com/bizar...nedfretmelt8jpg

the tune o matic bridge was my mistake.... bolded the wrong thing....
Non-locking tremolo and Sperzel locking tuners
I guess that was my choice..... but have still much time to decide

what would you change with the specs?
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Old 2005-07-21, 14:41
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Thats gonna be one bad ass intrument!
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Old 2005-07-21, 14:45
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I think the woods and hardware are all great choices. The only thing I would suggest different would be the bridge. They say they would mill a custom trem bridge for $1500, but I know I would get a Kahler trem.

Kahler USA will also make you a custom bridge to spec if you ask them, but I have no ideal how much it would cost. I ( as well as many others ) consider Kahler to be the best trem bridges ever made.

Edit:That and I would get a Flying V body shape with everything black... so black, lol
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Old 2005-07-21, 14:57
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I think the woods and hardware are all great choices. The only thing I would suggest different would be the bridge. They say they would mill a custom trem bridge for $1500, but I know I would get a Kahler trem.

Kahler USA will also make you a custom bridge to spec if you ask them, but I have no ideal how much it would cost. I ( as well as many others ) consider Kahler to be the best trem bridges ever made.

Edit:That and I would get a Flying V body shape with everything black... so black, lol


haha alright..... I'll them that with the bridge,.....

thanx man!
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Old 2005-07-21, 16:17
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i think 8 strings for a guitar (or more) is kind of rediculous. i mean, the 7 sting was cool, and a good idea, but, like zertonshfits once said, if you want to get that low of tunings, just quit and play bass. but then again , i do like meshuggah...
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Old 2005-07-21, 17:21
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i think 8 strings for a guitar (or more) is kind of rediculous. i mean, the 7 sting was cool, and a good idea, but, like zertonshfits once said, if you want to get that low of tunings, just quit and play bass. but then again , i do like meshuggah...

See, i do play bass and that is the thing, i want a guitar because i like the high end and the soloing capabilities n such (not to say you cant solo with a bass, i love primus) but i also love the bass so i want an instrument that covers a large spectrum. and there is no way i can get a custom, it took me about 8 months to get this $400 i have now man...i suppose i may just have to settle for a 7 or just wait till im gettin some more dinero and get an 8 then...thanks anyways guys

or i could go the custom route, i could make one...i mean i have the stuff to do it but...so my new question is, does anyone know where i could get 8 string guitar pickups/bridges/necks? I can do the body myself, i have access to a plotter (a huge printer to print the outline of the body i want) and i have access to the power tools necessary. But getting the other parts i need might be pretty expensive. Well, any help would be appreciated, thx

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Old 2005-07-21, 21:11
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man ive always wondered how much fun a 24+ fret guitar could be
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Old 2005-07-21, 21:16
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Buy a baritone guitar, and tune it down to F ( that's Meshuggah's lowest note on their 8 stringers ). It will feel like a standard six string guitar tuned down to A ( I've down this before, and it does indeed work ).
 
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Buy a baritone guitar, and tune it down to F ( that's Meshuggah's lowest note on their 8 stringers ). It will feel like a standard six string guitar tuned down to A ( I've down this before, and it does indeed work ).


That is an alternative, altough you miss the high end for the soloing
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Old 2005-07-21, 22:09
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Well, Conklin did make, for a very short period of time and in limited numbers a production model 8string. You'd have to buy used and it would be at least double your budget but, yeah, thats no help at all
For that amount of money, I'd look into a baritone 7string if you want to replicate the tone and fit it with Lundgren 7 string pickups (the same ones Meshuggah use).
 
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Well, Conklin did make, for a very short period of time and in limited numbers a production model 8string. You'd have to buy used and it would be at least double your budget but, yeah, thats no help at all
For that amount of money, I'd look into a baritone 7string if you want to replicate the tone and fit it with Lundgren 7 string pickups (the same ones Meshuggah use).


Shecter makes a baritone seven string, I forgot all about that ... Its like a 26.5 scale.
 
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brutur, that 8-string is going to be superb! i'd be afraid it that it would eat me though. 28 frets, 8 strings, its a beast.
 
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The price I dont want to state here

changes in the specs are made in the future during the building process


Bro, that thing sounds fucking NICE.
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So the other day i was sitting around listening to "I" by Meshuggah when i realize, hey, they do a pretty good job with an 8 string guitar so maybe i should try it out. So now comes my question, does anyone know of a place to buy an 8 string guitar? Preferably 500-600 maybe 650. But, i started out as a bass player so i am a pretty big fan of the low end. I looked and MF and Music 123 and they seem to only have 7 strings so im not sure where else to look. The only problem is, i dont know if there will be any in my price range, but if you can, go for it. Thank you.


Yo, Meshuggah use Nevborn 8-string guitars. The model is the Sleipner XL which is like a permutation of the Sleipner I, customised for Mssrs. Hagstrom and Thorendahl. I asked Mr. Nevborn how much he would make me a lefty version (yes, I'm a lefty) for. "Same prize" he said and with that spelling error.
$3000. Nevborn would easily do the job with less expensive gear if you asked him. Check his website www.nevbornguitars.com (or .net, forgotten). He's got a whole range, including this insane 13-string thing, and the sweetest heavy metal guitar ever.
Meshuggah's deadly Nothing tone is also available at Lundgren Pickups. The Model M was customised for Thorendahl for 7-string guitars. Priced at 195 euroes.
Hey, anyone know an abundant source of lefty 7-strings that would import to the UK or in the UK?
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IMO 8 strings are unnessasary, i just dont like them, 7 strings is enough...
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[QUOTE=Zertonshfits]IMO 8 strings are unnessasary, i just dont like them, 7 strings is enough...[/QUOTE

to some people 6 strings are still enough...
 
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Maybe.. but when is x amount of strings enoug? someday, some dude will come out with his 24 string guitar, and some will even then call it not enough..
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I don't think 8 string guitars sould be a standard but I do believe they are nice to have. Especially 8 string guitars with 28 frets. Welcome to shred Heaven
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Especially 8 string guitars with 28 frets. Welcome to shred Heaven

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I think Brutur's might cost more but it sure will be nice.
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in fact, everybody thinks 8 string guitars are hard to play on..... others think you don't need more then 6 strings....

well I can tell you..... It never felt so easy to play on a 8 string guitar (better than on a 6 string).... and palying is very comfortable (no need for big hands)..... its easier to make solos because with the 7 and 8th string you can play a wider range of scales..... you also have the possibility to play really low.... from the lowest string (F) to the highest string (e).....

the only questionable thing is the price....
I can tell you.... I buy this guitar instead of a car.....
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yes it is cool to see a guy do 8 and 9 string sweeps and it does give you a little bit of wider range but is low F really nessasary? i mean, B is damn low IMO but, F? geez might as well get a double guitar with the bottom guitar being a bass...
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I don't think 8 string guitars sould be a standard but I do believe they are nice to have. Especially 8 string guitars with 28 frets. Welcome to shred Heaven


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So the other day i was sitting around listening to "I" by Meshuggah when i realize, hey, they do a pretty good job with an 8 string guitar so maybe i should try it out. So now comes my question, does anyone know of a place to buy an 8 string guitar? Preferably 500-600 maybe 650. But, i started out as a bass player so i am a pretty big fan of the low end. I looked and MF and Music 123 and they seem to only have 7 strings so im not sure where else to look. The only problem is, i dont know if there will be any in my price range, but if you can, go for it. Thank you.


Beleive it or not, but you can make your own. eight string replacement neck, and drill 1 more holes in it and run the new strings into holes about 6 inches behind the pickups.

but i sure as hell wouldn't do it unless i had a cheap starter guitar.
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Old 2005-07-27, 17:54
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Beleive it or not, but you can make your own. eight string replacement neck, and drill 1 more holes in it and run the new strings into holes about 6 inches behind the pickups.

but i sure as hell wouldn't do it unless i had a cheap starter guitar.


What about the body where the neck joins, the bridge, and the pickups?
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Old 2005-07-27, 18:11
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use a sander.
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Old 2005-07-30, 09:03
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ESP makes a decent one, Im sure this is what your looking for because people are confused on what 8-strings actually are. They are not like 7-strings at all. Its a 6-string basiclly strung up like a 12 with the 2 low strings doubled up. Here is a link to the pic.

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/...ri8snake4cw.jpg
 
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We are talking about 8-strings as in two strings added besides the normal 6, not the 2 octave strings you show.
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ESP makes a decent one, Im sure this is what your looking for because people are confused on what 8-strings actually are. They are not like 7-strings at all. Its a 6-string basiclly strung up like a 12 with the 2 low strings doubled up. Here is a link to the pic.

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/...ri8snake4cw.jpg


What we're talking about is like a 7 string, with an extra 'whole' string

Thats still quite cool though, would be quite nice for cleans
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