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View Poll Results: Which amp yields better distortion?
Engl Thunder 50 16 69.57%
Mesa Boogie Single Rectifier 7 30.43%
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Old 2005-05-31, 22:56
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The time has come, I need a new head

Well my Peavey VTM has died, and I need a new head.


I have been looking at two heads; the Mesa single Rectifier, and the Engl Thunder. The main problem I have is that there is no guitar shops around here that have any Engls. I have played The single rec and enjoyed the tone very much. Unfortunately, the only time I have heard the Engl is on rocksolid, here


If anyone here has played the Thunder, is the tone on this sound sample typical of this amp?

Also, for anyone who has played both amps, what would you choose for a fuller, punchier distortion?

The final question; which amp is louder? I know not all 50 watt amps are equally as loud, so one of them has to be louder than the other.
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Old 2005-06-01, 02:31
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now whats the difference between a single, dual, and triple rectifier?
 
Old 2005-06-01, 02:44
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The rectifier tubes in the amp (correct me if I'm wrong xdislexicx)....the 5U4G's...I know I've seen pics of single, dual, and triple recs....each one corresponding with the amount of 5U4G's (1.....2.....3)....my triple rec has 3...so it seems to make sense to me.
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Old 2005-06-01, 05:28
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i say engl because it's cheaper and i thinkg it sounds better.

neither is going to be louder, same wattage. it's going to be to close to tell. because we'd be talking abut less than 1db difference which aint shit.

but the engl will probably "cut better"

then again they sound nothing alike.

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The rectifier tubes in the amp (correct me if I'm wrong xdislexicx)....the 5U4G's...I know I've seen pics of single, dual, and triple recs....each one corresponding with the amount of 5U4G's (1.....2.....3)....my triple rec has 3...so it seems to make sense to me.

yep, the single rectifier has one rectifier, the dual has two and the triple has 3.

and the wattage goes single(50w) dual(100w) and triple(150w)
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Old 2005-06-01, 09:23
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this is how all threads like this should be. Simple options, educated questions, and a poll. We have too many threads that are like "i'm going todasy to buy teh new amp and what should i buy plz thx?!?"
 
Old 2005-06-01, 09:27
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yup.

The Thunder has a typical distortion like ALL Engl's have, the sample sounds like a typical Engl distortion to me, my Savage 60 sounds a lot like it.

The Single Recto is still damn nice though, if you love the Recto sound that is, see they're both not really versatile, you probably know that but if you're basically buying the amp for the distortion then the Thunder is the way to go IMO. But hey, I'm biassed as fuck
 
Old 2005-06-01, 20:17
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see they're both not really versatile, you probably know that but if you're basically buying the amp for the distortion then the Thunder is the way to go


Yep, non-versatile is fine with me.



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Old 2005-06-01, 20:49
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just invest in a few metalzones, and buy a mediocre amp!
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Old 2005-06-01, 21:33
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Get a marshall MG 100 head

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Old 2005-06-01, 22:28
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Have you considered a Fireball MTM? It's 2 channels, but I think it may be a little more raw and viscious which would suit your style of music well.
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Old 2005-06-01, 22:39
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wow, thats really good advice!?
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Old 2005-06-01, 22:42
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No, he was just joking..

Please dont ditch your Framus for that setup!
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Old 2005-06-01, 22:44
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If I had the money, I'd want to buy a Marshall Valvestate 8100. Chuck used em, so they must sound atleast decent.
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Old 2005-06-01, 23:04
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No, he was just joking..

Please dont ditch your Framus for that setup!


that would be so class if he traded it his framus rig for my metal zone! i would just cry with happyness
 
Old 2005-06-02, 20:56
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Have you considered a Fireball MTM? It's 2 channels, but I think it may be a little more raw and viscious which would suit your style of music well.


Ah yes, I would like to buy a higher grade Engl, but unfortunately, I can't afford it. Hell I am gonna cringe when I buy that Thunder I'm just working a summer job now, but maybe if I get more serious about performing, I'll get something better at a later date. Honestly, I think the Thunder would serve me well for a long time


Thanks to everyone who contributed here!
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Old 2005-06-02, 21:05
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Old 2005-06-02, 21:25
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Ah yes, I would like to buy a higher grade Engl, but unfortunately, I can't afford it. Hell I am gonna cringe when I buy that Thunder I'm just working a summer job now, but maybe if I get more serious about performing, I'll get something better at a later date. Honestly, I think the Thunder would serve me well for a long time


The Fireball is only 1200$. Thats not much more than the thunder if I'm correct.
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Old 2005-06-02, 21:28
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The Fireball is only 1200$. Thats not much more than the thunder if I'm correct.

Yeah thats like 400 more or so, I guess it will depend how much I have. I guess it could happen though.
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Old 2005-06-02, 22:06
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Yeah thats like 400 more or so, I guess it will depend how much I have. I guess it could happen though.


Yeah, it defenitely could. Just keep a positive outlook on it.
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Old 2005-06-05, 04:10
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