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Old 2005-05-19, 03:33
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Instrument cables: Mainline vs. Monster Cable

Mainline's cables are much cheaper than Monster's, but I'm not sure if Monster is of much better quality or if they just sound the same. Can anybody with experience comment on cable brands? Feel free to reccomend another brand, I'm willing to spend $15 or $20 on anything 8 feet or longer as long as it's of good quality. Any help is greatly appreciated.

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Old 2005-05-19, 04:33
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Sound is not really the issue. More expensive cables are typically superior from a mechanical standpoint and are less likely to fail. Spending the extra cash for one of the cables with a lifetime guarantee is worth it IMO.
 
Old 2005-05-19, 05:24
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yea monster cable is gr1m, one cable investment you never have to worry about getting a new cable if that one breaks, lifetime warrenty no questions asked.
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Old 2005-05-19, 07:16
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In sweden all these exepensive cables has just got a 1 year warranty
 
Old 2005-05-19, 11:39
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I made a thread on this a long time ago;.......search man
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Old 2005-05-19, 15:33
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monster cables are nothing special.... sure they have warranty, but really great cables shouldnt need it.

mogami cabling is the way to go. i like switchcraft right angled end's for holding rack shit and pedalboards together. then neutriks for my main cord from my guitar.

i make them myself too, not to hard if you have basic soldering skills. and alot cheaper than buying them from guitar center. i could make and sell a custom length mogami cable with neutrik ends for about half of what guitar center does and still make a little profit.
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Old 2005-05-19, 20:56
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you say that every time!

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Old 2005-05-19, 21:04
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you say that every time!

if it wern't you it'd be spam



it'd be spam if i said "i have some cables for sale"

but i just said i could make, and sell them for half of guitar center's prices and still make profit.

i was mostly hinting that cables are often overpriced.
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Old 2005-05-19, 22:28
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hey xdx what are the specs you make yours at? wht models of connectors and wire do you use?
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Old 2005-05-19, 23:47
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hey xdx what are the specs you make yours at? wht models of connectors and wire do you use?

i usually use mogami 2524... though i could use others if requested(its cheaper to buy in bulk though). but i find the 2524 to be extremely noiseless and pure in tone & clarity.

for end's, as i said before. for most stuff i use switchcraft right angled ends. but on my main instrument cords i use neutriks.

i just use plain ol' solder with a simple 15w soldering iron.

and i cut to custom lengths.
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Old 2005-05-20, 07:22
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hmm, how much would it cost for 2 of your best cables?

i need one thats for my guitar to my cry baby (that would have to be about 3m)
and then i need one going from my cry baby to my soon to be pod xt (less than a metre would be fine)

i dunno anything about the technical side of cables, but yea what are the best ones for my needs and how much could you make them for?

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you say that every time!

if it wern't you it'd be spam


does it matter?

hes helping us get cheaper shit, i dont care if its spam, its helpin me out so piss off

lol, joking, i love you really

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Old 2005-05-20, 15:10
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mogami cabling is the way to go. i like switchcraft right angled end's for holding rack shit and pedalboards together. then neutriks for my main cord from my guitar.


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Old 2005-05-20, 19:42
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Monster's are overpriced garbage..

get some mogami or have JerryP make you some cables http://www.fjamods.com/
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Old 2005-05-20, 20:44
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hmm, how much would it cost for 2 of your best cables?

i need one thats for my guitar to my cry baby (that would have to be about 3m)
and then i need one going from my cry baby to my soon to be pod xt (less than a metre would be fine)

i dunno anything about the technical side of cables, but yea what are the best ones for my needs and how much could you make them for?


i'm guessing since you're talking in meters and not in feet that you're not in the u.s.

and if that's the case you're better off buying a bit more locally.

if not shoot me a PM and we'll talk.
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Old 2005-05-20, 20:54
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Monster's are overpriced garbage..


well, they're not bad cables by any means. totally decent wire with pretty high quality ends. and they're durable. not to mention lifetime warranty.

but they cable and ends themselves are nothing special.

when i was a monster user(i still have couple) the warranty is what sold me on them. i could break it in the most retarded way like trying to tow a freinds car with it.. doesnt matter. take it into guitar center and they'll give you a fresh one.

build quality is about equal with monster and mogami, but in means of sound quality. mogami's with neutriks or switch craft ends are superior.
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Old 2005-05-20, 21:24
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Well yeh, Monster cables are complete crap.. just really overpriced. Good thing the warrenty is lifetime because I've come across many busted ones. For half the price you can get a much better cable.

So if you rather have a lifetime warrenty with inferior sound then by all means buy monster..
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Old 2005-05-20, 22:42
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what do you guys think about pro co?
 
Old 2005-05-21, 00:18
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they make great snakes and overdrive pedals.... i know that much.
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Old 2005-07-24, 21:29
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sry for reviving this, i didnt want to make a new thread, and get all seach asshole coments

how are ur opiniouns bout spectraflex cables??, and wich one to get?? since they have a bunch of series
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Old 2005-07-25, 05:15
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I can't comment on spectraflex cables but i just bought a planet wave circuit breaker, it's expensive but good.
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Old 2005-07-25, 05:39
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i usually use mogami 2524... though i could use others if requested(its cheaper to buy in bulk though). but i find the 2524 to be extremely noiseless and pure in tone & clarity.

for end's, as i said before. for most stuff i use switchcraft right angled ends. but on my main instrument cords i use neutriks.

i just use plain ol' solder with a simple 15w soldering iron.

and i cut to custom lengths.


Dude, I do the same thing I can make my own cable for anything really. I get 2524 cable for $0.49/ft and with some $3 Neutriks plugs I build the same cables Guitar Center sells for $43. I use elestronics solder that has a rosin core a some silver in the mix. It cost a bit more for the sliver mix solder but it has a little better conductivity and bonding then just lead/tin solder. You don't have to heat it as much and that makes for a better joint

Guitar cables are a scam when you think about it. They charge so much for them but make them for so cheap.
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Old 2005-07-25, 06:27
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Totally agreed. The Neutrik speakons that i built only ran me $30 for a 25 ft and a 50ft, where at guitar center it would have cost me $100
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Old 2005-07-25, 16:51
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Hey xdx, where can I buy the 2524 cable/ + some ends? It looks like if I just bout a spool of 100ft I'd solve a lot of patch problems for a few years.

Also, is it easy to figure out how to solder everything? Or is there some sort of manual I can get? Does it matter what kinda iron i use?
 
Old 2005-07-25, 17:24
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damn, might aswell have someone build em for me instead of buying it in a store didnt know these things cost so fucking much.
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Old 2005-07-25, 19:54
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if anybody can find a better place than this... tell me.

www.redco.com

i go through other places too, when not buying in bulk.
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Old 2005-07-25, 20:01
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just to make sure, they sel seperate parts right??

and howlong is 300ft in meters??
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Old 2005-07-25, 20:05
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just to make sure, they sel seperate parts right??

and howlong is 300ft in meters??

about 100 meters
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Old 2005-07-25, 20:22
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about 100 meters
oke lemme get this straight i can get 100 meters of magomi w 2524 cable for $0,34

and for some extra buck il have the plugs??? so for say $10 i have a awesome cable for the rest of my life

then y the fuck do they charge so fucking much for spetraflex and monster cables?? brand??

EDIT: lol $0.34 per feet if u buy over 300 ft didnt see that before

but so what should i egt exactly.

magomi w 2524 cable, and wich conectors??
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Old 2005-07-25, 21:09
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a meter is a little over 3 ft. close to four feet.

12 inches in a foot. and like 10 cm per 4 inches... so uh, like 30 cm a foot.... something...

oi... i'm to american to think metric.

yeah, i have a couple hundred feet of 2524 stuff.

i like switchcraft right angle ends alot for rack gear and pedal boards. but neutriks for my main guitar cord.

most places sell switchcrafts for like $7.00 a peice. like http://www.mojomusicalsupply.com/cg...ne/2195120.html

but i have my secret place i buy them from for $2.50 a peice.

a couple other places to buy mogami from , not in bulk.
BTX Electronics ($.49/ft): http://www.btx.com/products.asp?Go=...ced&Cat3=Guitar
Electronic City ($.49/ft): http://www.electroniccity.com/shopp...132&brandinc=21
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Old 2005-07-25, 21:46
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just wondering what is bulk??

like in seperated pieces or sumtin

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Old 2005-07-25, 23:05
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bulk = a shitload.

I guess the ends are what really kill people in the pricing...

Anyone still care to enlighten me on how to solder ends to the cable?

I just might grab $20 worth of mogami (errr...50ish feet?) and use my dad's soldering iron (dunno the wattage though..) and get my own solder (cheap too, i hear) and make my own cables from now in instead of having to buy 'em.

Cheaper rack investments, here i come...
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bulk = a shitload.

I just might grab $20 worth of mogami (errr...50ish feet?) and use my dad's soldering iron (dunno the wattage though..) and get my own solder (cheap too, i hear) and make my own cables from now in instead of having to buy 'em.

Cheaper rack investments, here i come...
i bet like 30 euros and ull have a shit load of good cables (even spare ones), and if u would buy new i guess ul end up with one cable for the same money, from what ive seen on internet so far.

ive seen some spectraflex cables, with aluminium wiring aound it to make it stronger for walking over it etc. 60 usd for 10 feet how sick is that
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ONe question though is sheilding. If you know sheilding (protecting from unwaned frequencies) it helps. I always buy braided.
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ONe question though is sheilding. If you know sheilding (protecting from unwaned frequencies) it helps. I always buy braided.

what are you questioning?
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I am questioning nothing. I am merely stating that I am not a big fan of the spiral sheilding simply because I bought 100ft of it and the noise wouldnt go away. I got 100ft of braided, and granted its a little less flexible, there was no unwanted noise.


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I am questioning nothing. I am merely stating that I am not a big fan of the spiral sheilding simply because I bought 100ft of it and the noise wouldnt go away. I got 100ft of braided, and granted its a little less flexible, there was no unwanted noise.


Im sorry if I dont make my point clear, my brain scans reveal im not using the normal percentage of my brain.


why did you start your post off with "one question though"?

the mogami 2524 are probably some of the lowest noise cables made. really good stuff.
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I probably meant to say, one question to ask yourself is.

And the 2524 I think is the kind i get.
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