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Hi,
Today is the day you’ve been waiting for! As promised we are offering you a limited time first buyers discount for your purchase of a new Kahler tremolo. Go to: www.kahlerusa.com to get your trems.
Please note that some items are not available yet. The 2200 Series, and all the 2700 Series (Killer, Spyder, Steeler) are no longer being produced at this time, however a “hole covering” 2300 Series cam system is being made for all of them and should be ready by year end. We will have a signup sheet for that cam system shortly, and will offer the discount again to those who had to wait. If you want a 2300 series of any kind, now is the time to order it. All backorders will be honored.
$5.00 Shipping worldwide.
Please, if it is available within a month you are encouraged to buy now regardless of availability. We are doing small runs to get up to speed and will sell out quickly. This first buyers discount will be for a limited time only. After that there will be no more discounts on the 2300 series.
Send order form and payment to:
Kahler International Inc.
4225 Oceanside Blvd. Suite M-101
Oceanside, Ca. 92056 |
Email i got from kahler. Its nice to see they got there own website up, and there giving discounts.  |
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Fuck yes! I have been waiting for them to start mass production again. For the last few months you could only get the New 2300 from Moser.
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2005-05-05, 04:01
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i wanna get one so bad, i think i would enjoy it more than my floyd
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2005-05-05, 05:00
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This is going to make getting parts so much easier for me in the future. I like that the price has gone down a little too.
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i bet slayer is happy
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do they have lefty versions of the Kahler Bridge?
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I've seen them everywhere but never had the chance to play one. What makes kahler different? 
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how does a guitar body have to be routed for a kahler to fit.
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how does a guitar body have to be routed for a kahler to fit.
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As far as i know, the Kahlers only have to have minor routing in comparison to a Floyd Rose. There only has to be a small amount of routing for the mechanism to go into the body.... if that makes sense |
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2005-05-05, 10:49
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thanks for the help 
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whats the best shape body for a kahler
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2005-05-05, 11:15
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The best body shape is for a kahler is your favourite shape  |
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That "hole covering" thing sounds interesting, I might just get one for my Ibanez if I save some cash up and find a way to pay overseas.
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i was thinking of getting a cheap dean ml baby
and then buying the kahler and heavily modifying it.
e.g
kahler trem
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Is it possible to do the same stuff on a Kahler as you can on a Floyd? I'm looking at the trems on the Kahler site now and I can't understand how they work just from looking at one. Also, are there any disadvantages to having a Kahler over a Floyd?
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i know a few advantages but i dont think there are any disadvantages
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2005-05-05, 15:22
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easier palm muting
easier to change strings
doesent need a whole load of routing
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I think you can't pull them up and they don't have as much range as floyds, don't quote me on that thoug, I'm not sure.
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They pull up don't they? I always thought they did.
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yea they do
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These things are way easier to use then Floyds. They are much smoother and more stable then any other trem I have ever used. They are the only trem that I will ever use if I can help it. I have a 2320 on my Ran.
They can easily be used for lefty guitars too. All you need is the cam with arm holes on both the top and bottom. You can use those hole for even a standard arm, a wrist arm, or a lefty arm.
Look closely at the cam. I can explain what each hole is for if you like, but this is the cam you will need for a lefty guitar.
As for routing, the needed hole under the bridges is smaller than a pickup route. You can have the whole bridge recessed about 3 mm to about 1/8 inch if you want it to have an even lower profile ( I had that done on my Ran ). They can be used on both guitar with and without angled necks too. |
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They pull up don't they? I always thought they did.
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yea they do
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As for routing, the needed hole under the bridges is smaller than a pickup route. You can have the whole bridge recessed about 3 mm to about 1/8 inch if you want it to have an even lower profile ( I had that done on my Ran ). They can be used on both guitar with and without angled necks too. |
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hi
would a kahler flat mount fit a jackson warrior xt or warrior usa1
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I want a few more myself. They are nice looking, feel good, PM better, and pull up and down very, very smooth. They stay in tune very well and they can be adjusted for any type of guitar, neck width, or radius. My only bitch WAS finding replacment parts for a good price. Well now I don't have to worry about that any longer.
People say Kahlers don't have as much range as a Floyd but how much do you need? I have drived my arm to the body and the strings got stuck to the pickups, but as soon as I released it was in perfect tune again. I could pull back to the point I would snap all the strings too if I wanted. What are people doing with Floyd that they need anymore range then that?
Edit: Yes they would fit those guitars.
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hey
i was just wndering somethin.
ive got an old 1970's kay sg they wernt very popular
back then or even now but i was just wondering if a gibson,or an epiphone
picguard would fit it
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I want a few more myself. They are nice looking, feel good, PM better, and pull up and down very, very smooth. They stay in tune very well and they can be adjusted for any type of guitar, neck width, or radius. My only bitch WAS finding replacment parts for a good price. Well now I don't have to worry about that any longer.
People say Kahlers don't have as much range as a Floyd but how much do you need? I have drived my arm to the body and the strings got stuck to the pickups, but as soon as I released it was in perfect tune again. I could pull back to the point I would snap all the strings too if I wanted. What are people doing with Floyd that they need anymore range then that?
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Would you say there are any disadvantages of having a Kahler, dude? I value your opinion more than most on this topic since you seem to be the only person around here who actually has a guitar with one of these trems on it |
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Cost and avaibility is the only disadvantage I can think of. Other than that, Kahlers do have all the mild problems that any other trem bridges has, like tuning changes if a string brakes, but that is the nature of any floating bridge. I guess you might be able to drive it to the point the strings slip off the roller saddles but I have never seen that or heard of that happening.
Some people feel that Kahlers have to easy of an action and want a stiffer feel like Floyd... Well that isn't even a issue now cause kahler made tighter springs to replace the normal ones if you want a stiff feel.
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i might be gettin one but i dunno which model i should get.
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You really can't go wrong with any of the 2300 series. You can always replace parts of different materials; brass, steel, aluminum; if you want to change the voicing a bit. All 2300 parts have the same specs but are made of different materials.
I have an old 2320 with brass cam and rollers. It works great for me because it is a bit more smooth and warm toned. I have use ones with steel rollers and cams and they seemed a bit more crisp and bright sounding, but no real major difference. I would use either.
Also keep in mind that steel will rust while brass will not, so if you get steel rollers then keep them well cleaned and oiled.
The one I would like to get is the 2315. It has a brass cam but steel rollers. The best or both worlds. I have always wanted to mix parts like that, but now they construct them mixed and ready to order. I just learned Slayer has been using Kahlers with this mix for years.
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hmm mixing, sounds like a good idea.
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Dang!
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I have a kahler in my explorer nowadays. I prefer it over a floyd anyday. Really comfortable for your hand and it looks nicer. But the looks shouldn't be a reason to buy one 
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NO!
NOOO!!!! no more Spyder!!! that was my favorite bridge...
oh well theyl probably make a newer version of it later...
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The Spyder was nice. I had one on my old Westone years ago. That bridge was awsome  That is when I first learned I was going to love Kahler bridges and I haven't looked back since. |
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Listening to Slayer seem's to lead people to believe they are more than capable to pull up....
The routing is much less than a floyd/strat/wilkinson/edge/zr trem, it's more similar to pickups routing the kahler then being screwed like the pickup bezels on top of the body...it rolls on two ball bearing's, and is smoother allthough i'm sure I heard it doesent have the same downtuning range as a Floyd, am I wrong, tbh the Floyd goes too low much anyways....
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They need to make em' for 7 strings god dammit!!!!
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I know. I have read a bunch of people requesting them on their web site so hopefully they will make a 7 string bridge soon.
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That would be so fucking sweet on my Ran if they did!!!!
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they said they prolly wernt gonna do it, i dunno though, they were saying somthing like one of there bass trems being able to hold 7 guitar cams on it lol so if you wanna make a ghetto rigd 7 string one.
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they said they prolly wernt gonna do it, i dunno though, they were saying somthing like one of there bass trems being able to hold 7 guitar cams on it lol so if you wanna make a ghetto rigd 7 string one.
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