fuck yea, if its anything like wretched is, then cant wait for it
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/bl...ewsitemID=35952

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sweet shit.

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YES

I'm still learning songs from The Wretched Spawn ... Can you imagine what this album's "Frantic Disembowelment" would be like?

Hopefully this album will have Alex's masterpeice

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Fucking awesome news! Cheers GD

That almost gave me a stiffy. I'm actually kind of suprised that they didn't stick with Neil Kernon after getting such great results with Wretched. It should be interesting to see how it will come out though with Erik Rutan at the boards, and Pat and Alex writing all the material. Can't fucking wait.

ERIK RUTAN???

thats weird news, i thought that if they didn't want Neil again, they probably would get Colin, i dunno, if Erik do the same work he did on King Of All Kings on Producing, it'll don't worth the change.

so, they'll be entering the studio only in October...long wait.

damn, Alex is never satisfied with producers...

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Erik must have a production deal w/ Metalblade.. he's producing Cannibal Corpse's cd and The Absence's cd.

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I like the production on King of all Kings. Its just the music that is a bit of a let down. The album should, at the verry least, be interesting.

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fuck yeah

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Goddamn, I hate the production on King Of All Kings. Only the drums sounded decent, and drums are the last thing I listen out for when it comes to CC.

Cool news anyway. I just hope they don't rush too much.

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beaut

Erik's production has come on leaps and bounds since KOAK. Have you heard Chorozonic Force Domination? Crystal clear, although I think the slightly fuzzy guitar sound suits Hate Eternal's sound down to the ground, I kinda wish they'd kept it for I, Monarch

Having said that, I am slightly apprehensive about the quality of the production in comparison to The Wretched Spawn. I watched the DVD again today for the first time in ages, and the guitars sound so damn crunchy. It looked like they were in a fucking nice studio, too

TWS is easily the best album they've done with Corpsegrinder, I just hope the music continues in a similarly technical vein, as well as being as brilliantly hooky

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The production on Wretched Spawn is Godly. Some of the best sounding guitars I've ever heard, and the drums sound pretty good too even though Paul is a mediocre death metal drummer.

King of All Kings however is pretty terrible, musically and productionwise. I can't wait for I, Monarch, it sounds much better. Rutan sounds like he's learned alot.

Don't waste your time typin' such a bullshit...

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Looks like it's too late for that, I already said it. The guy is just a boring by-the-numbers death metal drummer in a band that is seriously talented and is always pushing the envelope writing some difficult shit. It'd be nice if Paul could come up with something to match the level of intensity the other guys put out.

But really, let's not derail the thread into some stupid argument over the god damn drummer. Forget I expressed an opinion on him.

No worries bro, IMO, Paul fits in CC style of songwriting.

Have you ever watch them live, hes way Better live, Solid.

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He really isn't that great. Take Frantic Disembowelment for instance; in the vocal breaks during the verses, some blast beats would sound incredible during those sections, but all he seems to do throughout the entire song is alternate between his kick drum and snare whilst hitting different cymbals. And people say Derek Roddy's drumming on KOAK is boring...

Derek is the best drummer man... Also, Sloth. They are really good. Paul is a great drummer, but I do agree with the blastbeats thing. It would have been nice in some of the songs, especially in he opener to Cyanide Assasin. Im really excited to hear the production on this album with Rutan! It will be great I think. I saw nothing wrong with KOAK, and that was a great album IMO!

Paul does some good drumming to go with the riffs on They Deserver to Die too, I think.

Dude, seriously, take Derek, that you mention, imagine he playing that part you did just said, just doens't fit, the songs are made based on Paul drumms, did you knew that?

And no, Derek is not Boring.

WHO, another thing, thank you for mention Cyanide Milo...

Just try playing That song...its fuckin hard timing, and the blast is fuckin cool, IMO, damn, its hard to talk with someone who doesnt like CC.

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Yeah in Cyanide he is really solid, the blastbeat wouldnt be good. Although, I think a blastbeat would be great in the tapping part of that song!

...what? No band would ever write music to drum beats

That song is probably the most brutal on the album, and it's let down by Paul's half-assed drumming. His drumming style worked with during the Barnes era when the music wasn't so technical, but now that everyone's stepped up their playing, Paul's drumming makes the band sound weaker than they are, and it's a shame

I used to love CC, hearing them turned me on to brutal death metal, but I rarely listen to them anymore because, even though the music is fucking awesome, the drums bore me to death and, in my opinion, they don't fit

I don't think so, Paul's drumming make CC sound Like CC, not ANOTHER buch of the same bands out there.

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Paul's drumming makes CC sound like CC because it's probably the most boring DM drumming ever

You hear those awesome guitars and bass, that raspy vocal sound, and you're thinking it's CC. Then you hear the drumming, and that's when you say 'ahh, definately Cannibal Corpse'

thats the point, when you listen to a band, do you first here Guitars, then Bass, then Drums?

personaly, i listen with all the instruments at the same time.

we could be discussing all day long, i like CC, you don't.

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Yes I have seen them live several times.

Now look what I've done.

HEEEEYYYY, your not the pope.

i love CC, but he is a tad boring of a drummer.

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Who said I don't like CC?

you do??
Good, enjoy!

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You scuzzy piece of filth!

Back on topic for a brief moment, I don't mind Mazurkiewiecz. He might not have been great on the last album, but it's still bullshit to say he's only built for when CC were playing simpler music. He sounded fine on Vile and Gallery, two albums that were quite tech.

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I think Paul is not a bad drummer. It would be wrong to compare him to say....Nile's drummer....they are more percussion oriented (IMO). Cannibal is mostly straight guitar, and Paul is there to back it up. I do think he could put forth some more effort though....I've seen drummers play and I get a fucking stiffy...I don't get that from Paul to much though.

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Paul rule you cunts!

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Fear Factory actually does.
Pauls does an alright job with them. His stuffs simple but it fits the music well. Gets the job done.

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Paul's simplicity seems to fit the music very well, and, IMO, seems to do nothing but enhance the bigger picture. If I had the chance, I wouldn't change a damn thing.

This is EXCELLENT!!

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yea, hes no pete sandoval or mike portnoy, but his drumming always seems to fit well with the riffs, and to me at least dont hold the music back or anything

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All the Fear Factory I've heard is monotonous shit. Does Herrera even play any of his parts anymore?

A lot of bands do that. Metallica writes a lot of stuff that way. Since Lars is such a limpwristed faggot these days, that's probably why they are so lame now. Even those bitches in Motley Crue made a big deal about how they wrote the entire "Dr. Feelgood" fiasco around drum beats (not that that's a good example). I also come up with most of my original shit that way because the drum beat inspires the riff...


I think Paul from CC is a really good solid and tight drummer, but he is obviously not a stand-out feature of the band.

You have a lot to learn......... CRYPTOPSY, yes Cryptopsy, wrote to Flo's drums after None So Vile. Goddamn, Flo is a cunt!!

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Holy shit! Flo's one of the most hectic drummers I've ever heard in my life. I'm not a drummer but I'm tempted to get his DVD when it comes out, just to see how he does the shit he does

I just don't understand how or why anyone would do that. I would find it insanely difficult to construct music around percussion, and I'm sure alot of pther people would do too

Yeah, well Cryptopsy's shit ain't that easy to write in the first place, so I would assume writing around the percussion isn't that much harder for those guys.

I almost need to hear drums in order to come up with my riffs.
I have been that way ever since I started playing (17 years ago).

Remember Eaten Back To Life?? Paul's blastbeats were halarious!

Atleast he got better.. kinda.



Drums are the center of the music.. they provide the tempo.

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sorry mofo, but while i don't hate paul's drumming, it's some of the most boring out there.

i will have to travel overseas to see them

Some of my most interesting parts have been written inspired by a drummer.

The Wretched Spawn album's production was wicked. The only problem I have with that album is the lyrics. I mean they are pretty boring compaired to their old stuff. Personaly I like the Barnes' era better but that's IMO.-I am so going to get killed for that.LOL

It would be sweet if Rob came back. Or....hey I just thought of something.....stupid probably but.....imagine Cannibal Corpse as a 4-piece. It just suddenly came to me...obviously have a live second guitarist but...I think Pat could handle it..alought I personaly prefer Jack's playing to Pat's. Pat's is more technical and about speed and almost "Suffocation"-style chops. While Jack or even Rob is more about melodic and errie stuff. I was just wondering what you guys think of a 4-peice Cannibal Corpse idea. I'm not really sure personaly.

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That sound strange to me, but could work well.

I just wish that Jack didn't turn to such a faggot ass, because his Riff's and Octaves fit very well to CC music along those 15 years, I think Jack and Pat made one of the best guitar partnerships of all Metal history on Bloodthirst album, now, seems that Pat will take care of the guitars for the new shit, and it'll certantly be the most brutal work to date.

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LOL!
That was pretty funny cause in greek
Mouni means cunt,so his last name(Mounier) would
be Cuntier

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i am rather looking forward to some new cannibal

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hes a faggot because he wanted to play something besides metal OmG?!#@E call the fuckign metal police we have a breach of security here!!!

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What does he play now?

He plays guitar in Deicide lol

oh and some other project that no one cares about.

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he originaly left to do a contry weastern style band (if yu have the wretched spawn dvd the part where hes playing that song "i gotta hole in my pocket, and i think i done lost my weed") that kinda stuff. then the deicide thing came up and I think hes filling in for good measure but not on a perminant thing (well i dont think so anyway)

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Relax, you're leading this to the negative way...he was probably tired of playing in CC and decide to leave, great, for what i knew about all of this, he where into some nu-metal thing, called Adrift, i don't know, maybe he did just forgot about all that crap and decide to join Deicide just for a tour.

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