Eh?

Overdriving an amplifier creates distortion, so really it's the same shit for the most part. The guitar world has simply adopted the word overdrive to describe a soft distortion or to describe a pre-amp that "overdrives" the input of your main amp, which in turn causes more distortion in your main amp, which brings us back to them being the same thing again.

well said

case CLOSED

no further discussion need here...

Use the fucking search button..http://metaltabs.com/forum/search.php?

People piss me off..

http://metaltabs.com/forum/showthre...light=overdrive

Was that so hard?? Took me a whole 10 seconds!!!

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Overdrive is softer than distortion. And distortion often has a lot more bass.

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Overdrive provides sustain more than anything, as well as a bit of bite; blues players use it a lot. Distortion is overdrive taken to the extreme, where the preamp is driven way past the point of just starting to crack, giving you that nice saturated sound that we metalheads have come to love!

Also, you don't really want any extra bass in your tone, it makes for a fucking horrible sound. Bassy guitars are a nightmare to record as they interfere with the kick drum and bass guitar, and the bass frequencies on the guitar tracks completely overpower the normal guitar mids and highs, so that makes the guitars sound even worse; I remember recording my old band's EP last year and the guitarist was using a JCM2000, and he pressed some 'Deep' switch which added the most disgusting bass rumble to the guitar sound. I can't believe Marshall are proud of that fucking thing, it's useless

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your dumb

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What xDx said.
especially after reading your signature again..

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You're from the Deep South. Case closed

WTF do you mean? Why do you have to be so mean? BTW overdrive is softer than distortion. LOLOLOLOLOLOL

distortion IS overdrive

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Well EXCUSE ME!!!!

But WTF is wrong with my signature? Your own is not that good either. Maybe better than mine, but that doesn't mean it's good.

Oh come on!

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I think maybe the '' was referring to your equipment, so comparing your sig with his is useless

Okay......well sorry.

thank you...

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And so he changed his sig
And you're welcome xdx

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Than how come I can't use my pedal with the distortion of the amp because it sounds way too distorted and mucky. I can only use my pedal with the amp if I use the clean section of the amp. Than it sounds good. I know you use pedals to connect to amp, but do you put your amp on clean mode or on distorted mode?

shizoid, what kind of pedal is it that you got and what is it that you want your pedal to do?

It sounds like he wants to add more distortion to his already distorted amp, which is ridiculous

sounds to me as if you use a pedal just because you want to use a pedal but don't have a clue about why you should use it

or maybe I'm just dumb

do you like your amps distortion without the pedal? if so, then you don't need it.. If you prefer the pedals distortion, then use it with the clean channel..

Yes, you should never waste your time trying to use two separate distortions despite certain joke threads you may have seen here (not that you shouldn't experiment for yourself, but generally speaking it will be a total disaster). If you use pedal distortion, run your amp clean. Currently I do not have a tube amp and my Digitech RP-10 has better distortion than my Marshall VS100 amp, so the amp is clean. The vast majority of all guitar amp distortions only sound good at high volume, so around the house you are better off with a pedal.

Not true at all. Try EQing your amp in a different way when playing at low volumes, I guarantee you'll beat your stomp box overdrive

Totally true I'm afraid. My statement wasn't speculation, it's based on extensive experiments over the last 17 years and a professional knowledge of electronics theory. I'm not referring to low-grade stomp boxes either. Yes, you can pick up an old Gorilla practice amp for example and the distortion will be as good or better than a Metal Zone, but a typical guitar amp at low volumes can not match the distortion of a high quality processor unless you are using a Power Brake or similar manipulation type scheme.

Why should volume have anything to do with the quality of distortion? As you well know, distortion is created by overdriving the preamp, so the power amp volume has nothing to do with the creation of distortion

Now, at low volumes alot of frequencies aren't heard so well by the human ear. Our hearing range has a natural presence notch around the 800Hz-2K region; other frequencies of the same volume are rolled off by our ears as, by nature, they aren't as important since the human voice is around this sort of frequency range. At low volumes, the low and high ends of a guitar sound aren't as easily detectable as the mids. Compensating for this with EQ can produce highly acceptable results. I'm not disputing that a cranked amp sounds better than a quiet one, just that amp distortion is better than outboard gain controls, whether at low or high volumes

You can know all the eletronics theory you like, but the bottom line is that with music, and the signal from a guitar passing through an amp, the end result is what you hear, not what you calculate

Preamp overdrive is generally crap and is no better or different for that matter than the overdrive circuitry found in hundreds of pedals and rack units. The good distortion in tube amps is at the final stage of amplification.

Volume is unfortunately a major factor in the vast majority of amplifiers even if the preamp is the source of the overdrive. I personally find it much easier to have a consistent external distortion setup that can be plugged into any amp or PA without having to redial everything in every time.