I know theres alot of threads on this subject b4. but this is a little diffrent. Ive looked up and read a little on tuning floyd roses. I just got me new guitar with a floyd rose licenced trem. I can tune it fine, but i must be missing something. cause it falls completly out of tune within minutes. even seconds. of using it. I must have missed something. I know u guys will rip into me and tell me the obvious. But its really annoying. I think it might be cause they are new strings. After using the whammy for about 30mins my lower E string was slow loose its not funny.

Thanks in advance.

Are you sure you've locked the strings in at the bridge properly? And have you locked the nut as well? If not, trying doing so, since the strings lock at these points for a reason; keeping the guitar in tune!

Also, have you stretched your strings in properly? Every time you restring, you should go along the fretboard bending each string about four of five times, retuning, then repeating until tuning stabilises. This is even more important on a Floyd since if one string goes out of tune, the combined tension of the strings changes and the whole bridge moves to compensate, pulling every string out of tune

It sounds to me that you're not stretching your strings in, so try using the technique I've described and you should achieve tuning stability. Hope this helps dude!

right. I have a feeling you are just not locking the nut. If the bridge wasn't locked, then the strings wouldn't be in there
strings have to stretch too. I bet thats your main problem because floyd rose equipped guitar can still stay in tune decently with out the nut locked.. just it stays intune A LOT better with it locked.

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you might not be locking the nut/bridge properly which can be fixed by tightening the screws with hex keys... but worst case senario, you just suck...

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Im afraid to disapoint you to say im not a retard and that the nut is screwed tight. I think the strings just needed a bit of a stretch. the main problem is my thickest string. After a while it drops ALOT lower than its buddys. When you stretch the strings does the thicker ones need to be done more or something?

I usually stretch each string 5 times or so and then lock the locking nut. It works for me. But if you've stretched it enough and you still have the problem. Maybe you just have crappy strings

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The bottom strings require more stretching because there is more metal that needs to be stretched. Thus when you don't stretch them in, they go floppier than the top strings

Watch out when tightening your nut, screwing it too much can pull the strings sharp and, if you haven't left enough room to back up on your fine tuners, you'll have to unlock the nut and retune with the machine heads again

This sounds strange because it sounds like you've stretched the strings out and have all the nuts locked. Are you following the 'official' floyd rose restring and tune method?

http://www.floydrose.com/originaltremolo.html

I do that and I have never had big problems.

Which is essentially the same as playing the guitar without having stretched the strings in the first place

erm... I don't think I put that clearly. I mean stretching the strings out before you lock.

Once they are stretched out they should be ok. I might have to retune once or twice in the first week (if they drift out of the range of the fine tuners), but once they are properly broken in they are fine.

I understood you...

After changing strings, I play them hard and use the vibrato bar a lot for 15-30 minutes and then retune and lock the nut. Before I started this habit I usually had to retune the high E string several times after locking plus a little retuning of various other strings.

maybe youve broken a string near the bridge and just didnt notice it (ive done this before)

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Thats what i did when i first got it. I just wasnt used to it going so out of tune so quickly. I was thrashing the trem so thats probaly why. I havnt been playing long and only just got an elec tuner. Everythings ok now. I guess they were crap strings too.

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how the fuck do you break a string a not notice it?

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Thats what i thought.

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its not as hard as you think... i know 5 people that have done it.. then almost taken an eye out by playing on it and having it snap and smack them in the face... it was really funny actually

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my third string sometimes just kinda explodes -_- My guitar just hangs on the wall and i'm watching tv and suddenly the third string will snap. And then the other strings below snap. And than my whole bridge is crooked -_-

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If you broke a string on a Floyd, the other strings will be pulled tight, not loosened. So the dude who's having the floppy string problem can't have had this happen

Well, you generally need to retune the Floyd about two or more times so after you stretch the strings unlock the nut retune lock up retune it's aloso best to reset the fine tuners, I found my gooth Floyd much better than my licensed floyd easyier to tune fine tune and genenrally better.

After you've tuned a it a few times it should stay fairly good, allthough what guitar is it and what licensed floyd?

Ozz

seriously?!

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HHAHHAHA it sounds very

I don´t know the word, funny?

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dead serious

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-grabs rg370dx for reference-

lets see

there can be several reasons why you keep going out of tune

A) not locking nuts -scratch-
b) tuning pegs not in middle when tuning -scratch-
c) somebody fucked up and theres a spring broken in the back of your tremelo -see below-

Well never forget the back of your guitar, its like the spine of a human body err no but its that important.

See the back? There are three pretty big springs on the back of your guitar. Now if you look closely theres this plate like thing its connected to and that plate is screwed with two huge screws into the body.

Its possible one is broken, if not then keep reading
Your plate is probably not screwed into the right place since those two screws that screws the plate in controls the position of the tremelo at what tuning your going to have it on. confused?

well, if your tuning down, you screw out the plate evenly in other words losen the screws so the plate goes -------> about an inch 2-3cms.
Now if your tuning up, or at E, tighten them, make them go <-------

oh my god heres another thing and this will most likely be your problem

the plate isnt even, its probably lookin like this ----> \ which isnt good depending on your spring configuration. to solve your sinking problem tighten one screw so it looks like this |
the closer it is towards your body the better.
ive been with this guitar a year so my terminology isnt so clear.

i recently got mine reset, and I now have 5 strings in the back of my guitar instead of the 3 you may have, this makes it easier on me to tune my guitar and it stays leveled

OR
take the shit back to the shop.

problem solved yada yada ok.

later.

LMAO

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agree

Here's some badass sites on that

http://www.athensmusician.net/archi...eguitarguru.php

http://www.guitarnoise.com/article.php?id=103

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/less...loyd_rose_.html

http://www.gibraltarlivemusic.com/t...ed%20Guitar.doc

The jist of it is;
-Alternate strings between high and low when replacing the strings (Low E - High E, A - B, etc) to add equal tension to the trem
-DO NOT block the trem
-Make sure all saddles are at equal tension (why? I don't know)
-Don't use Ernie Ball Super Slinkys, the elasticity of em makes em useless

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I stated in my last post i just wasnt used to the whole new guitar thing. Its ok now after ive streched the strings. Why is everyone still trying to explain shit. haha

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Because you never posted back saying you sorted the problem, so people still think you're having trouble and are trying to help

What the hell are you talking about.

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Ooops!

man the input of my ltd jsut broke and im saving to ge this rad ibanez ( i dunnu wut its called) but it has floyd rose nad i have no friggin clue how to work that thing but its 350$ used

...why the fuck did you just raise this dead topic?

HAHAHAHA! I can imagine that:

.....Doing!


..................Doing!
.......................Doing!


I think youve got a guitar poltergeist... :P

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Is it all right to lower the treble string side of the floyd rose more than the bass string side of it? so that the treble side has lower action... or will it screw my guitar up somehow?

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That's fine. It won't hurt anything.

ok thanks

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