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Old 2005-04-08, 07:54
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Searching for a distiortion for black/death metal

Hey guys,

I'm looking for a distortion padal or multi-effect board that can give me a distortion like Immortal, Dimmu Borgir and Behemoth. Can any of you guys reccomend me a padal with witch I can get this nice and agressive sound? It doesn't realy matter if it's multy effect or not, as long as you do not say the MT-2, because I think it sucks...

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Old 2005-04-08, 08:19
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I think the Digitech Metal Master is a distortion pedal, its got a pretty good variety of tones you can get out of it. You can find em for around $90. I recomend trying it out first though, it might not be what you want.
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Old 2005-04-08, 09:23
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Run a 10 Band EQ into and MT2 and mess with it. You should get what you want out of it.
 
Old 2005-04-08, 17:16
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digitech death metal pedal can sound kinda black metal if you tweak it right. but the best ive found is running an old Boss HM-2 through an Ibanez Tube screamer to get the Burzum/mayhem sound. Most black metal bands out there use preamps though.
 
Old 2005-04-11, 00:14
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get the behringer v amp pro... lots of programs to play with and multiple pedals to stomp
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Old 2005-04-11, 01:06
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No, the V-amp is weak in dist., even if you put it on the Rect. head simulation.
 
Old 2005-04-11, 04:06
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Old 2005-04-11, 04:24
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You're kidding me? This is gear and recording, right?

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Old 2005-04-11, 17:41
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i d get an old dod death metal pedal, it has far more balls than the new digitech version. I d also prob get a noise gate to get rid of unwanted feedback
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Old 2005-04-11, 18:27
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Distortion pedals tend to be muddy and lack clarity, therefore they're not suitable for playing black metal (good luck playing fast tremolo riffs like Transilvanian Hunger with one of them).


By the way, I'm curious what overdrive pedals people use to push a tube amp for black metal. SD-1? Tube Screamer? Proco Rat?
 
Old 2005-04-12, 14:15
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tube amps have good distortion as far as I know you don't need to boost them
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Old 2005-04-12, 20:27
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tube amps have good distortion as far as I know you don't need to boost them

play a tube fender(other than the hotrods) or a peavey classic series, or a jcm 800,jtm45, ect.

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Old 2005-04-12, 20:38
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play a tube fender(other than the hotrods) or a peavey classic series, or a jcm 800,jtm45, ect.

oh man, another funny quote to go in my sig...



true...didn't think of those amps.
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Old 2005-05-12, 22:06
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Ok, so as to not start a brand new topic (i did search, but couldn't find anything useful through the 15 pages i looked through), i'm gonna re-use this thread, its kinda connected...

What amp(s) are good for BM, i don't have a budget, so whatever suggestions will be welcomed

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I think some crate amps have good dist. for black metal.
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Old 2005-05-13, 14:02
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tube amps have good distortion as far as I know you don't need to boost them

 
Old 2005-05-13, 17:03
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Old 2005-05-13, 19:32
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Distortion pedals tend to be muddy and lack clarity, therefore they're not suitable for playing black metal (good luck playing fast tremolo riffs like Transilvanian Hunger with one of them).


By the way, I'm curious what overdrive pedals people use to push a tube amp for black metal. SD-1? Tube Screamer? Proco Rat?

I have played Transylvanian hunger in front of audiences, with a boss megadistortion. The clarity is superb. My distortion level is at 4.5 or so while the gain is at about 6. I have a very clean(you can hear every note) distortion sound, not at all muddy.

Black and death metal are very diverse. So maybe you could pick out 3 or so bands with similar tones. Mutiilation, Vlad Tepes, and Belketre are three great examples of horribly brutal distortion. They used more than Darkthone did for Transyvlanian hunger, and they speed pick their riffs.
 
Old 2005-05-13, 20:19
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Old 2005-05-13, 20:41
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Old 2005-05-13, 20:54
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Is a solid state amp better for BM, as you want a more raw, sterile tone to it? Or am i completely wrong?
 
Old 2005-05-14, 03:51
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My thoughts exactly. If you want a "kvlt"-sounding amp, get the oldest piece of shit you can find and leave it outside one night when it's really cold and everything freezes over. That'll give you that olschool black metal distortion you want. :P

Seriously, standard thrash distortion that comes with most combo amps is all you'll need for black metal. If you want something thicker for death metal, I suggest that DOD Death metal dist. pedal, for $50 it looks pretty fucking tight.
 
Old 2005-05-14, 09:16
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as long as you do not say the MT-2, because I think it sucks...

Wrong. The MT-2 sucks for a lot of genres, but for blackmetal you can't get any better.

I have seen TONS of great BM bands playing on the clean channel of a JCM800 or even a fucking Warp7, just with a metalzone in front of it, and the sound was pretty good.
If you know Cirith Gorgor and Lux Ferre, those are two examples.

I get a very Immortallish tone out of my MT2 + amp.
Just fiddle with the EQ on both your amp & metalzone.
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Old 2005-05-14, 09:24
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My thoughts exactly. If you want a "kvlt"-sounding amp, get the oldest piece of shit you can find and leave it outside one night when it's really cold and everything freezes over. That'll give you that olschool black metal distortion you want. :P

Seriously, standard thrash distortion that comes with most combo amps is all you'll need for black metal. If you want something thicker for death metal, I suggest that DOD Death metal dist. pedal, for $50 it looks pretty fucking tight.



The OLD DOD death metal ( the simple black box ) without the stupid bloodsplatters on them sounds ok an has a lot more balls than the new one.
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Old 2005-05-16, 13:18
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Not being a fan of black metal or black metal guitar tone, i can't help you there, But i am pretty confident you could get a good behemoth tone out of a gt-6. I have heard it.
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Old 2005-05-16, 13:32
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I have played Transylvanian hunger in front of audiences, with a boss megadistortion. The clarity is superb. My distortion level is at 4.5 or so while the gain is at about 6. I have a very clean(you can hear every note) distortion sound, not at all muddy.


I don't know, maybe my definition of clarity differs from yours. To this day, the bunch of solid-state amps I tried were not able to offer that kind of tone, "feel" and clarity, let alone dist pedals.

Or maybe the MD-2 (is that it?), a pedal which I haven't heard but have seen being trashed even more than Danelectro "food" pedals is a gift straight from the Antichrist.


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Black and death metal are very diverse. So maybe you could pick out 3 or so bands with similar tones. Mutiilation, Vlad Tepes, and Belketre are three great examples of horribly brutal distortion. They used more than Darkthone did for Transyvlanian hunger, and they speed pick their riffs.


Praise Mütiilation to death, haven't heard of the other two. Don't forget that there's a lot of "production-phase" magic involved with many BM recordings. Nevertheless, I didn't mention Transilvanian Hunger for having the most distorted guitar sound (for Darkthrone, the credit goes to Under a Funeral Moon, and more "horrible distortion" can still be found in many other recordings) so I wonder why you brought that up.
 
Old 2005-05-16, 18:57
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The Line Six Uber Metal is good apart from they gay name it also has a built in noise gate.
 
Old 2005-12-22, 02:04
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No, and I say absolutely no digital effects/amps get a good black metal sound. Metal zone is a terrible pedal. I haven't tried the MT-2, but it supposedly geared towards the "nu-metal" sound. I've heard samples and they have a lot of low end catered particularly for 7 string guitars. Best bet is to get a good equalizer, a reverb pedal and an overdrive pedal. Also those DOD death metal pedals are pieces of fucking shit! If you got one for free, you'd probably still want to throw it away.
 
Old 2005-12-22, 02:10
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You need to also take into consideration strings, picks, pickups (no emg's). You can get an alright sound with one of those multi effects pedals, just take your time and tweak it right. I have a zoom pedal and until it broke/got messed up, was actually not all that bad for black metal.
 
Old 2005-12-22, 02:28
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I think he might have figured it out 7 months ago. Thanks for the input though.
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Old 2005-12-22, 06:23
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Old 2005-12-22, 15:27
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Old 2005-12-23, 15:57
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Black metal distortion = shit
Really, most black metal bands use the follow eq'ing:

Bass: 0
Mids: Dimed
High: Dimed
Gain: Dimed
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Black metal distortion = shit
Really, most black metal bands use the follow eq'ing:

Bass: 0
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Old 2005-12-23, 16:09
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Experiment!! People knock the MT-2 but.....I have played that pedal through a couple of different heads and cab configurations and it sounded badass. But then again I have played it thoruogh some amps and it sounded like total dogshit!! You have to experiment. Every pedal is going to sound totally different through different amps.
 
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