I would like to know the names of some decent christian metal bands. I tried searching but all I found was ridiculous arguements. So what I ask is please don't post stuff about how stupid any religion is. Just decent band names.

mortification is one.

go to www.bnrmetal.com . i think they have a section called christian metal.

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Thanks alot I guess really what I would like to hear is some christian thrash. Thought that would be pushing it. better

Living Sacrifice fucking slays,I guess you could call them christian thrash.

The only thing that can ever be discussed about 'christian metal bands' is that it's an oxymoron.

End of thread.

technically, deicide.
because to hate god, you have to believe in him first

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Gorgoroth and Marduk are christian bands
lol

Lykathea Aflame is really good christian death.

Have you heard of Deliverance? They're the only Christian thrash band I can possibly think of. I think they're even still together...

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which it is. especially highlight the moron part.

and technically amon is right with deicide

I'll check them out.

Atheist are christian.

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Well there is Stryper...























Oh, you want good Christian metal? I hear Antestor is supposed to be good.

Crimson Moonlight is good Black/death Christian metal.

Theoretically, I'm a christian...
practically, I'm kinda` an atheist

what exactly does christian metal reffer to?

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Heh. Christian metal is people screaming about Jesus because they think it will teach the metalheads about him.
Listen, dude. If you're a Christian and want to stick to those teachings, that's great. But there's no need to try to find Christian metal bands. Just listen to good metal, period. If the cursing and gore offends you, then find a band that is more on the clean side. But trying to mix metal and Chrstian lyrics is quite pointless. You can't tell people about Jesus through everything. So pick up whatever metal you like. If they're a decent band for you, then they won't offend you anyway. Read your holy book, talk to the people who you think know who god is, and keep your faith about you. But looking for Christian metal is like saying, "Hey, man, I'm wanting to work at a construction site with a bunch of christians and Jesus logos on all of the equipment". Trust me. Jesus has plenty to do without thrashing around beside his favorite prophets in the holy mosh pit.

The reason I listened to music and why I liked certain bands was never their message or lyrics really, it's the music and how it sounds. If you like a song, it's nice to see it have good lyrics / lyrics you like, but that shouldn't ever be your priority in the types of music you listen to.

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I guess heavy metal with christian lyrics. I think the reason they put the word in there is to tell everybody they're lyrics are christian. Christian death metal, christian black metal. But it does make since considering that most of that stuff is pagen satanic without saying satanic deathmetal. Really is a good idea though so metal can reach a wider audience.

Only christain metal bands I can think of:
Demon Hunter (EWWW!)
As I Lay Dying (\m/)
Norma Jean (FUCK YES!)

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Possitive lyrics are fine by me. The way I see it, all of the darkness and twsited violence is no more than that of a horror movie. Only this is just audio. It's entertainment. But I can see where it might become offensive to someone looking to stay on the christian path.
I'm a fan of death metal and grindcore mostly, and usually you can't even understand the words. But if I were to open an album booklet to a death or grind band to find that their telling me how much they love Jesus, I'd take it more as sarcasm than anything. The sound doesn't fit all that well. In my opinion (kind of as you noted), there shouldn't be christian metal bands -- only metal bands who's musicians happen to be christian. Good luck with finding a good REAL metal band with christian influences, though. It's a thoughie.

That is hilarious lol

The only christian metal I like is As I Lay Dying. Their lyrics aren't really about religion but they're christians none the less.

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believer


hey wtf lykathe is CHRISTIAN!?!!?

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What the fuck is it with the emergence of all these christian bands? Since when was it cool to parade your beliefs around? And since when did you need to have positive metal? I give up on this thread.

To the guy that said that christian metal is an oxymoron.

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Speaking of religion, calling your band "Atheist" is pretty fucking stupid. It is just like naming your band "Satanist" or "Muslim".

Satan you are a loser, the victory has been won, CHRIST
is going to crush your head and grind you to a pulp,
Hammering Satans Head, Hammering Satans Head,
Hammering Satans Head, Crush his skull, Hammering
Satans Head, Hammering Satans Head, Hammering Satans
Head, Crush his skull, Hammering Satans Head,
Hammering Satans Head, Hammering Satans Head, Crush
his skull, Hammering Satans Head, Hammering Satans
Head, Hammering Satans Head, Crush his skull.

Yes, it's a dumb name but Atheist is fucking awesome.

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i might get flamed for this, but if the holy bible can teach you about satan, then why cant metal be used to tell people about jesus?

in my opinion though, judging music with religion is utter crap and more juvenile than anything else.

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ROFL
nice one :P

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Trouble is a christian band but it's doom not thrash
and I think Zao is christian also

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nah

christian bands are usually christian first and musician second. they are just using metal or rap or whatever as a tool to spread the word.

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Okay. This is bullshit. Christian Black Metal in particular is an oxymoron.

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Dude, you STILL haven't gone online WHAT THE FUCK?!

isnt that true for any ubergrim-necro-kvltissistic black metal band?

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All I can think of is Paræmecium right now. Have not heard too much of their stuff, but from what I can remember it was pretty cool. Australian doom/death metal stuff. I do not see why Christian metal is a problem, as people can use music to be whatever they want. As long as it is good, I will listen to it.

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99% of the time, death metal is not satanic. yes there are bands like dissection, the crown, deicide, krisiun etc. that have satanic lyrics, but traditionally it is NOT the norm.

You're right corroded, which is why they also suck. The only difference is that black metal cunts keep themself in one genre, which you should avoid all of just to make sure. Christian bands, who tend to be largely derivative since their primary concern is message, not music, feel free to be derivative of any musical standards.

On the other hand, there is much good music made by Christians, they just aren't members of the endless parade of Christian rock/metal/rap/punk/etc acts. They're people for whom the music and message are inseparable, so that it's an expression of joy rather than the setting of an acceptable message to some musical form selected almost at random in a missionary attempt. Death and thrash metal aren't the right medium for the Christian message, if it's to be at all musically relevant.

Though, if we assume that music and lyrics really have no intrinsic relationship, than it doesn't matter. But the fact that I can't think of any Christian metal bands who do something another band doesn't do better makes me believe that they do, and it does. There's good Christian music, but it's made by genuine artists rather than missionary poseurs so intent on making Christianity 'cool' that they're representing it as an endless source of kitsch.

I wish some christian band would just get together and make it brutal to blow everyone off there asses. I don't think most punk ass kids would listen to it for the music though. They are into "metal" because they think it makes them look evil and not to be fucked with. Those kind of people would never be seen listening to that music. While I for one know that Christian history is very brutal, much like the Viking history theme that many bands surround themselves with. Most people think being christian means being a pussy. That just isn't true.

Tom from Slayer is a devoted christian, but if you take Slayer's music into account of who they might be, you would never know that. Does that change want Slayer is about? No, Slayer is about music and not about being Satanic. Slayer just writes about the darker side of mankind. Writing music about that doesn't make you evil. Just look at John Milton.

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exactly right, mr. insane. tom is indeed deeply religious, but if a priest saw him, he would turn and run in the other direction. if slayer were to be PURELY about satanism, they wouldn't have two of the best guitarists in the business playing top solos over everything, wouldn't play thrash etc. and yes they do right about the darker side of everything, mankind, racism (angel of death), politics (divine intervention).

Tom doesn't write any of the music, either, or try to saddle it with a Christian message. The problem is not being a group of Christians, since they're equally capable of creative expressions as anyone else; it's that these 'Christian rock' bands are so-called not for the personal beliefs of the members but for their lyrics, which are more or less interchangeable regardless of the music behind them. I can't think of many metal bands I actually like whose lyrics would somehow work within the structure of a saccharine pop song, but the 'Christian' trend in popular music seems to operate under the belief that the musical structure is interchangeable. It isn't.

I don't really care for death metal If I did my fav would be nile for lyrics. but I haven't heard to much death metal. My opinion death is slow gore filled super low growled lyrics you can't understand. I'm always distracted away from the guitar work which to me is what's important to figure out what the hell they are saying cause most of the death metal I hear makes the vocals louder than the instuments. I heard a cannibal corpse song that was pretty fast that I liked so really that proves that you can't judge a whole genre for a few songs they produce. The whole reason of this thread is to get my perents off my back cause I am a christian and hopefully never will cease to be. To them there is no such good thing as moral heavy metal. Luckily my mother is on my side she likes heavy metal but is slowly ceaseing to like it because of its kind of evil nature and the only christian band I could find was demon hunter which oddly and sickinly enough she liked. So I wanting to find some good christian bands or a least some with moral lyrics or at least lyrics that have nothing to do with religion or harcore murder to get them off my back.

Dude, do me a big favor and clearify this for me into something a drunk man can understand. I think I know what you are saying but I need to be sure.



Edit: What I think you are saying is that Christian music can't be switched between Metal and pop without changing the context?

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They're not feeling the music at all, so it doesn't matter what they sing about or how it fits with the style they're playing. They put the same lyrics to a thrash, death, or black metal song they would to a pop song, because none of it matters in comparison to getting the message out. They're so concerned with getting it out to every person on earth that they don't stop to make sure they're making it work first. A lot of Christian music does work (I think you've got a Catholic or Eastern Orthodox mass as one of your favorite classical pieces, something like Dies Irae, right?), but it's being ignored in favor of saddling every existing genre with generic pro-Christian lyrics, regardless of whether they're effective at all presented like that.

The sad thing is that I write like this when I'm drunk, too.

Edit: What I'm saying is that, yeah, but mostly that they have to appreciate the musical form before they write in it. Even if these types of metal would work with Christian lyrics, the people who're doing this don't really care about the music. They only care about the message, so they don't see that the music is a part of the message.

Well that helped a ton. Thanks and I do agree with what you say about most christian music not having a feeling for the music as much as they are using it to deliever a candy coated message. That is just the generic, "Spread the Word theme", that many modern christians, I feel, are told that will save their souls.

Songs like Dies Irae, O' Fortuna, and Miserere Mei are far more christian because they are writen the in a way to really be great music pieces that are inspired by christianity. Not writen to bring more to the church. I think the whole christian measage thing in modern music is a tactic to bring people to the chruch and not to just have great music as being works of art in the name of God.

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Wow, Tom is a christian? I honestly had no idea. After hearing this song and "Jesus Saves" I commonly thought Slayer was satanic or atheists. I'm not being sarcastic at all, I honestly had no idea. Not that I look down at Tom for it, I'm just amazed.

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Right, it's like a missionary take on music. They save the heathens dwelling in the jungles of Africa; they save the heathens listening to thrash. The pieces you mentioned are an expression of Christianity in musical form, rather than the musicking up of a missionary crusade, which is why they're good. The end point, for me, is that I don't believe Christianity can be expressed in this musical form, but if it happens, it happens. I think we're more or less agreeing at this point; I just wish they'd get back to making great music as a celebration of their beliefs.

And Tom was raised Catholic and has confirmed his beliefs several times, though I don't think he toes the Catholic line. Nobody in Slayer's a satanist.

You could think of that song as being the throughts of an extremist person that might feel that way all the time. I feel that way sometimes too. Slayer just writes about it. It's not real though.

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After reading those lyrics and made it down and read that he was christian my mind was in shock. Someone from slayer a christian still doesn't change a thing. I wish they would get back to making good music to.

It is good music It just hasn't been around long enough for everyone to know it yet. Wait about 5 more years and everyone will swear by it. I remember when every hardass true metalhead thought the Seasons album was just absolute shit.

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ive seen a few christain metal/hardcore bands,it was in arkansas, they do church benefits and stuff, they got this ultra clique insular scene,the guy who put on that show told me that thier church BOUGHT them thier gear, most of the bands sounded like converge and coalese, very generic, i had no idea they were christain until after the show someone told me, they seemed like very nice people, i left with the impression that it was a phase for them, it wouldnt last.

i always wanted to start a fake christian grind band called "Powerdrivers for Jesus", we'd have songs about monster truck rallys,nascar and wwf, the singer would be a televangilist with a podium,bible in hand, proffesional wrestler outfit and a white pompadoor at least a foot high, we'd do grind covers of hulk hogans "hulksters in heaven" album, and we'd only get shows with OTHER christian bands,play to thier fans in thier scene, flip thier fucking wigs

edit:then we'd baptise the audience and ourselves with buckets of blood

Lykathea Aflame
A Step Closer

Jealousy is degrading us from divine freedom to futile slavery.

Be free and let 'em be free.
Spiritual teachers we become when giving freedom
and possibility of choice.
Show 'em freedom and you'll be followed,
it's the only way leading from the painsphere.

[Chorus:] Then we will be a step closer to home

Improvement of ourselves is an escape from inner impurity and its torments.
So because we judge others according to ourselves
when there is no impurity within us
we won't be afraid of the impurity of others...

...and fear is gone,
only beautiful harmony remains...

[Chorus:] Then we will be a step closer to home



So yeah they're christian on top of being one of the best metal bands ever.

Korn...

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ya i knew tom araya believed in god but i didnt think he was christian...

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as i lay dying, or haste the day are some good ones

oh SHUTUP






(stupid whinging christian)

Unless Ptoe has said himself that he is Christian, I don't think that those lyrics necessarily make L.A. a christian metal band. Sure, the lyrics are very spiritual, but there's no reference to god/jesus/bible etc etc. To me, it's just his thoughts on life, and while his views seem rather symmetrical to christian teachings, they are not necessarily christian lyrics.

And no, it's not that I can't get over the fact that one of the greatest metal bands ever could possibly be christian

When a band is this good, their religion/beliefs make fuck all difference to me.

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as i lay dying- christian harcore
extol- christian death metal
norma jean- christian hardcore

these bands are great, and im not even christian. check these guys out

The only album I've heard that's better than Hogan's is Randy Savage's rap album. It's pure gold, I fucking swear.

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Damn strait.

That is exactly that I was going to post. They can't be too metal if they believe in religion. I'm not saying that they have to be satanists - I'm not into that satan shit myself - but they can't really be metal if they have religious values and if they preach them.

To quote the King James Bible : God is not the author of chaos/and or disorder.

Well, it claims so, but no matter, what has been established is that music should conduct itself in an orderly and proper fashion, according to this Bible. Other scriptures in the Euro-American Bible ( note : Hebrew scholars admit that the King James and the original Hebrew ciphers are nothing alike ) further solidify the notion that God wants to hear pretty music. If anything, in times of praise, He wants to hear happy music, saying good things about him ( because he has a fragile ego, I suppose ).

Music is an aural illustration of time as we know it, at the time of composition, and if metal ( especially extreme metal ) were a field of mathematics it would certainly be Chaos Theory, along with jazz music, atonal music, a few other genres which I have not named would be under the inclusive umbrella of disjointed irregular music. The mathematical implications of extreme metal would go sharply against the grain of the process of Creation outlined in Genesis, and all other behaviour traits exhibited by "God" later on in the Bible, pertaining to the arts.

And with that I am proud to say that Metal is the Devil's music.

I agree dude. Fucking christians have better things to do then try taking our music and turning it to god's or thiers. Christan metal (to me) offends real metal heads. Fuck them, and Hail Satan.

Even though I am a christain myself, i have to admit that most Christian metal bands tick me off because they do not even try to get on the same aggressive technical level of real metal bands.

Some day, some day...

to be serious, i dont think it matters if people in a metal band happen to be christian as long as its good music, nowadays, i just dont want to be sermonized by anyone whether its vegan/straight edge self righteousness, black metal elitest holier than thou shit, punk rock hippy drum circle shit or yeah, right wing christianity. my objection would more have to do with bands with an ayatollistic message about thier values as an element of political activism or a religious bent, anything that claims in sharing more than just the music<preaching to the converted>. basically lead singers who talk too much between each song about how much they fight everyday for everyone,everywhere at all times, spreading this utopian political message people must adhere to,must be sermonized about inbetween each fuggin song, how people must be as motivated and "involved" as he or she,how some people are posers and are unworthy, and also they must condemn the the forces of evil, the "they" and "them" being diametric to "we" and "us", therefore we must sacrifice and struggle against "them" in a losing battle over "our way of life" "the things we believe in". its a common formula for political hardcore<metalcore,whateva core> bands thruout the 90's, basically alienated alot of people who would otherwise enjoy the music as being unworthy, ive seen too many bands pull this shit on crowds at shows, im definatly on the side of MORE ROCK/LESS TALK
that being said since the roots of metal lay somewhere between blues and classical music, two genres heavily invoking the themes of god thru out their evolution, christianity whether critisized or embraced plays a major role in the metal/hardcore/punk genres. if the lyrics and message is to be tooken seriously my only objection is about the missionary zeal and pig-headedness of any ideology or religion. not the fact that its members are "christian" or religious for that matter

edit: ill keep my eye open for that randy savage album in thrift stores and 2nd hand record shops "hulksters in heaven" is priceless, hogan even plays bass on a few songs

Black Sabbath aren't Metal?

I remember way back in middle school this dude always went on about some xian band called "Horde"
Supposed to be Black Metal.....I don't know though.

ozzy was a christian back in the sabbath days, good call

I heard a band on hoagy's show the other day called vengeance rising, but I think they were christians who reverted to satanism or something.

the only ones i know are norma jean, the chariot, as i lay dying, demon hunter, living sacrifice and i think zao

i used to be into all the metalcore stuf fim starting to listen to more death adn heavy metal now

my friends that are in 8th grade just started a christian metal band u may hear about them in a few years hopefully

the name is Blood in Rememberance

If a couple of Christians in a band makes it "Christian metal" then we certainly have a ton of Christian metal bands. They'd need to actually be singing about that type of stuff in order for it to qualify. Metallica's "Creeping Death", for instance, comes awfully close to being Christian metal.

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What I don't unerstand is Christian Black Metal, or Jewish and African NSBM.

Vomitory Corpulence - Christian GORE GRIND!!

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Christian Black Metal can not exist, and as far as I know, no one has ever claimed to be Jewish or African National Socialist Black Metal.

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Hey estringrev, Don't listen to all these fucking shitheads.
There are tonnes of Christian metal bands out there, and they are heavy, and they're awsome. Mst of them are Metalcore, hardcore thrash or something. Not too many actual Death metal bands. One Christian Death metal band is called "Corpse". They're good old fashoined thrashing death.
Like mentioned before, living sacrifice.
Demon Hunter, Extol. Old Blindside, really old Embodiment. (Get the album "The Narrow Scope of Things") Zao is always good and heavy.
Solid state records is a supporter of Christian metal. They have some pretty gay bands too though.
There's a bunch more out there, but I can't think of them all off the top of my head.

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Thanks for the info. I've heard one song by zao think it was called the 1st prophecy or somthing I didn't like it. As far as demon hunter goes I really do hate most metalcore and I believe there the worst kind they sacrifice music to deliver a message and they're plently of ways to deliver a message without screwing up my ears and wasting my time.

Mortification
Christian Thrash/Death Metal

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You should check out Crimson Moonlight, they sound like Dimmu Borgir without the satan.