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Old 2005-04-02, 12:21
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Alternate Picking Is Killing Me!!!!

Okay so I have tried improving my alternate picking for about a year now and I just can't seem to get anywhere! The thing is when I alternate pick on E A D, theres no problem, but when I get up on G B e strings it seems like the pick wants to stop by the string and my picking gets choppy and the notes don't ring out clearly! I fucking hate it!

I have tried changing position when I'm playing, change my hand position, change my pick position, when I relax its even more disturbing.

What the fuck am I doing wrong?!

BTW: The action is kinda low too...
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Old 2005-04-02, 12:53
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action shouldnt cause a problem. make sure too much of the pick isnt sticking out.

and it IS harder to pick on uncoiled strings, practice i guess.stay loose!
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Old 2005-04-02, 13:38
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are you completely relaxed when your picking?
any tension in your picking hand will not only stop you from playing but also give you problems.
a freind of mine used to playguitar with his muscles like a rock, and now he can barely move his wrist.
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Old 2005-04-02, 14:20
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Ok thanks. Well I tried it some more and It went better. Practice makes perfect...
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Old 2005-04-02, 19:33
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kept practicing and dat shit just ties in eventually
 
Old 2005-04-02, 20:50
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What is the tension on your strings like? Loose string tension makes it VERY hard to alternate pick on the thinner strings.
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Old 2005-04-03, 04:48
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also, make sure youre not using a gay pick
 
Old 2005-04-03, 04:51
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...or make sure you are using atleast a medium pick. I'm pretty sure picks have no sexual preference.
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Old 2005-04-03, 06:04
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Buy some new strings, change brands or something. It could be the source of the problem. Also, if you want to alternate pick fast, play some death metal like Hate Eternal or Sadistik Exekution.
 
Old 2005-04-03, 08:43
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Ok thanks all. Well I use 0.10-0.46 (D'Addarios) and I use Jazz III's. Shouldn't be a problem. I'm off practicing.
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Old 2005-04-03, 09:36
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I recently got a pai of GHS 11 Boomers, and they are good. I'd say switch to 11's. The Daddario 11's in the XL (?) Range are good too.
 
Old 2005-04-03, 09:55
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Yerr, I play in E though, 10's are kinda good enough for that. I think I'll stick to them.
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Old 2005-04-04, 00:40
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what is alternative picking
 
Old 2005-04-04, 00:43
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Old 2005-04-04, 00:43
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alternate picking is picking a string starting with a down stroke then an up etc.. but it doesent have to always be in that order so for e.g
down up down down up up etc....
 
Old 2005-04-05, 02:28
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the best thing i was ever taught about playing guitar is if you cant play something slow you cant play it fast.try practicing your scales really slow.try to only hit the very top of the sting with as little picking hand movement as possible.i guess playing slow you can figure out what your doing wrong.
 
Old 2005-04-05, 04:14
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Just relax your arm, make sure your not using your elbow, just your wrist. Also, do not grip the pick so tightly. Just hold it loosley, but of course firmly. If you have problems, just start out slow and eventually pick up the pace.
 
Old 2005-04-05, 14:01
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try alternate picking on string like:

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g-5-6-7-8-5-6-7-8-5-6-7-8
...D.U.D.U etc

i think its called the caterpillar technique. Do the exercise on all strings and use a metronome to increase the speed. Then change strings add your own licks etc.

A favourite warm up riff for me when I am playing is to play the main riff Plug In Baby by Muse (not exactly metal) in strict alternate picking. You end up using up 4 strings and is a good way to get speed. As everyone has said before, relax and start slowly. I always beleive that in trying to gain speed, a metronome is very handy. Hope that helps, good luck
 
Old 2005-04-05, 20:09
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Buy some new strings, change brands or something. It could be the source of the problem. Also, if you want to alternate pick fast, play some death metal like Hate Eternal or Sadistik Exekution.


don't you mean tremelo picking? Alt is when you switch notes every time...tremelo is where you stick on one for some time and then switch around and stuff.
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Okay so I have tried improving my alternate picking for about a year now and I just can't seem to get anywhere! The thing is when I alternate pick on E A D, theres no problem, but when I get up on G B e strings it seems like the pick wants to stop by the string and my picking gets choppy and the notes don't ring out clearly! I fucking hate it!

I have tried changing position when I'm playing, change my hand position, change my pick position, when I relax its even more disturbing.

What the fuck am I doing wrong?!

BTW: The action is kinda low too...


Its all in the wrist.... ok that sounded weird. just dont move ur elbow. and try a heavy pick like a dunlap 1.26mm some of the famous players that are acctually good use i think its like 1.90 or somthing around there.
if ur just starting out then play that line from call of the kutulu or somthing and switch up the playing, or with the blues scale.
 
Old 2005-04-06, 15:09
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Its all in the wrist.... ok that sounded weird. just dont move ur elbow. and try a heavy pick like a dunlap 1.26mm some of the famous players that are acctually good use i think its like 1.90 or somthing around there.
if ur just starting out then play that line from call of the kutulu or somthing and switch up the playing, or with the blues scale.

Repeat over and over
e---------0-------------0----
b-------0---0---------0--0---
G-----5------5------5-----5--
D---7----------7--7--------7-
A-0--------------6-----------
E-----------------------------
D U D U U D U D D....ect
 
Old 2005-04-06, 15:21
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Its all in the wrist.... ok that sounded weird. just dont move ur elbow. and try a heavy pick like a dunlap 1.26mm some of the famous players that are acctually good use i think its like 1.90 or somthing around there.
if ur just starting out then play that line from call of the kutulu or somthing and switch up the playing, or with the blues scale.


Either that or try the A minor arpeggio(do with alternate picking/ A minor for speed)

e-5-0------0-5-8-5------5-8-12-8--------8-12-17-12---------12-17-----
b-----1--1---------5---5----------10--10------------13---13-----------
G------2-------------5---------------9------------------14-------------
D-----------------------------------------------------------------------
A-----------------------------------------------------------------------
E-----------------------------------------------------------------------

e-20-17---------17-20---------
b-------17----17-------------- G----------17----------------- D----------------------------- A-----------------------------
E-----------------------------
 
Old 2005-04-07, 19:29
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Here's a few chromatic exercises to help with alternate picking too. Just do em with no amp while your watching TV, thats what I do so I don't get bored.

http://www.shredaholic.com/chromatic.html

hope that helps
 
Old 2005-04-07, 19:31
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Thx man I appreciate it.
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Old 2005-04-09, 00:50
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try a heavy pick like a dunlap 1.26mm some of the famous players that are acctually good use i think its like 1.90 or somthing around there


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Old 2005-04-12, 13:46
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Picking man needs a lot of patience and in the final it is the most difficult part in electric guitar.Read some interviews of petrucci or watch some training videos and you will be improved .Don't worry
 
Old 2005-04-12, 14:02
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Its all in the wrist.... ok that sounded weird. just dont move ur elbow. and try a heavy pick like a dunlap 1.26mm some of the famous players that are acctually good use i think its like 1.90 or somthing around there.
if ur just starting out then play that line from call of the kutulu or somthing and switch up the playing, or with the blues scale.




1.90 doesn't that influence the sound ?

I use a green dunlop tortex .088 and can get all the speed i need. the thickest i ever used were the purple tortex. I think those are 1 mm
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Old 2005-04-12, 18:23
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i stick to 1mm any heavier and i don't like the sound when it is picking
any less and flops around like a drunken sailor
 
Old 2005-04-14, 05:29
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don't you mean tremelo picking? Alt is when you switch notes every time...


Yeah because its not like death metal ever does that.

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Old 2005-04-15, 04:58
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Ow. Fucking hell, what's that thing called when you get pain in your elbow and upper due to improper picking?

I'm quite sure I pick only with my wrist, but I have a habit of tensing my arm, even when I try not to, it always comes creeping back.

Any tips?
 
Old 2005-04-15, 13:16
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RSI Before you start practising first warm your hands like before a real sport event don't start picking like crazy whenever you want .Stretch your muscles and then start playing

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