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Old 2005-03-25, 02:04
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ok iv been trying to get the distortion working on my amp(its a crate) cause all the songs i try to play sound like shit without distortion, is there anything i can do. do i have to clean it or something cuase im not sure
 
Old 2005-03-25, 02:27
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the distortion wont kick in? what kinda amp is it (tube or solid state) if its a tube, maybe one of the tubes have gone (though if that was the case then i dont thhink the cleans would work...) if its a solid state maybe a connection came un-sauderd
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Old 2005-03-25, 03:23
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God damn Crate SS amps Mine rocks 99% of the time but once in a while it seems like it needs to be exorsized. It's like my playing summons a demon from hell and my amp becomes the gateway. I got a Crate GFX1200H and For SS it is ok, but it freaks and does some wierd shit sometimes.
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Old 2005-03-25, 03:26
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It's like my playing summons a demon from hell and my amp becomes the gateway. I got a Crate GFX1200H and For SS it is ok, but it freaks and does some wierd shit sometimes.

i think the amps really just tired of having shitty tunes go through it
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Old 2005-03-25, 03:29
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i think the amps really just tired of having shitty tunes go through it


Might be all the KoRn I play I can only play one 1 string you know, but it is so brOOtal with Bass at 11, mids at -11, and treb at 11
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Old 2005-03-25, 03:31
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hahah that reminds me of a time (like 7 years ago) we had a mac and my cousin (computer nut) comes over and is like wow dude this is shit, it only has x and x and x
...so is that bad?
lets put it this way its like having a guitar with one string and only one fret
......oh

haha
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Old 2005-03-25, 03:33
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lets put it this way its like having a guitar with one string and only one fret
......oh

haha


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Old 2005-03-25, 03:34
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yea man, who do you think really wrote that tenaciouse d song "one note song" pfft they ripped me off
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Old 2005-03-26, 02:56
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my amp is a tg10r crate (i know its a peice of shit but i just started playing guitar sooo i cant complain) but i turned the OD up to full and still i get no distortion. lol the iced earth i been playing cant harm an amp its f ing awsome

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Old 2005-03-26, 08:50
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Have you pressed the little button that switches the channel?
 
Old 2005-03-26, 11:41
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I would suggest some boost or OD pedal. An EQ pedal might be handy too.
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Old 2005-03-26, 15:20
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Have you pressed the little button that switches the channel?

HAHAHA oh man if he hasnt....
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Old 2005-03-26, 15:38
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Try getting an effects processor or pedal so you can just run it through the clean side. That way, once you hit bigger shows, you won't even have to have an amp. Just plug the guitar into the distortion source (best bet would be some type of pedal with an adapter not batteries), plug the distortion source into the PA system and vwa-la no big ass amps to carry around! So, until you get the PA, just plug your guitar pedal into the clean side of the amp.
(and "p.s.", I don't know if that works great with just one little pedal. I'd think it would, but I use an RP200 by Digitech. A tiny wimpass pedal might not be the best route. But I THINK it would work just as well.)
 
Old 2005-03-26, 15:40
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hmm not sure how well your guitar would actually sound through a PA... i know people mic them to the pa all the time but the sound is still coming out of a guitar amp
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Old 2005-03-26, 15:44
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hmm not sure how well your guitar would actually sound through a PA... i know people mic them to the pa all the time but the sound is still coming out of a guitar amp

Well, if you use the distortion of the pedal/processor, then the sound will be completely from that. The PA would just act like a big amp that you can plug more than one thing into. I don't think it would change the sound of the distortion since it all comes the pedal anyway. But I have noticed that it does sound alittle different between different amps. Still, it should work pretty well feeding the processor straight to the PA.
 
Old 2005-03-27, 03:07
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no no no no non nonon nooooooo

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Well, if you use the distortion of the pedal/processor, then the sound will be completely from that.



???

assuming you ment to put the word "different" after completely.... yes using a PA as an amp will sound completely different from an actual guitar amp.


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The PA would just act like a big amp that you can plug more than one thing into.

yes and no... it technically is one big multi preamp unit... but guitar preamps are ment to color the sound of a guitar and work with only it's frequencies..

a PA mixer is not the same thing as a guitar preamp..

and PA speakers are not the same thing as guitar amp speakers.


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I don't think it would change the sound of the distortion since it all comes the pedal anyway.

the thing is... it doesnt... but that's a bad thing because guitar amps are ment to color the sound. it's desirable.. pluging straight into a mixer makes it very sandy and harsh sounding... because that's the signal you're sending it.

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But I have noticed that it does sound alittle different between different amps.

rule of life.. no two anything sound exactly the same.
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Still, it should work pretty well feeding the processor straight to the PA.

it'll only work ok if the processor can be used as a preamp and it has some sort of balanced/speaker emulating output to feed the mixer.

and even then, it's a poor substitute for a real set of speakers and mic.
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Old 2005-03-27, 03:28
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Might be all the KoRn I play I can only play one 1 string you know, but it is so brOOtal with Bass at 11, mids at -11, and treb at 11


KoRn and the smily??? u make me sick
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Old 2005-03-29, 01:29
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heeeeyy kornes not that bad, they have some good songs, lol i play iced earth, theyre awsome especialy when u play it fast
 
Old 2005-03-29, 01:36
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You can run a distrotion pedal right into the mixing board. I know Meshuggah(sp?) run PODs right into the mixing board, or atleast they use to. Its the same idea since they are both essentialy pre-maps, but a single distortion pedal, you would only have distrotion no clean. You can do it, but it would sound terrible.
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Old 2005-03-29, 01:47
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You can run a distrotion pedal right into the mixing board. I know Meshuggah(sp?) run PODs right into the mixing board, or atleast they use to.


I'm a huge Meshuggah fan, and I did'nt even know that. I'm quite surprised they would do that.
 
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Old 2005-03-29, 06:59
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You can run a distrotion pedal right into the mixing board. I know Meshuggah(sp?) run PODs right into the mixing board, or atleast they use to. Its the same idea since they are both essentialy pre-maps, but a single distortion pedal, you would only have distrotion no clean. You can do it, but it would sound terrible.

no man.. a distortion pedal IS NOT the same thing as a preamp... the most important difference is that a preamp gives out a line level signal and a distortion pedal gives out an instrument level signal.

when you hear about people running pods and shit into mixing boards they're using the cabinet simulators and shit. if they just ran the pod into the mixer without the emulators and shit, i garauntee it would sound like ass in a box.

you need a speaker simulator or something to run into the mixer or will sound as sandy as hell. i'd know. my first guitar rig was a dod grunge pedal into a small PA. that was about as grainy as it gets.
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Old 2005-03-29, 20:07
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Old 2005-03-29, 21:22
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Hi everyone this is my first post and I have a problem with
my g3or cd marshall amp.
ever time i switch it on it makes a very loud humming sound.
with no guitar sound when played.can any body help.
I DO NOT NOW A THING ABOUT AMPS Please help
 
Old 2005-03-29, 23:57
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Hi everyone this is my first post and I have a problem with
my g3or cd marshall amp.
ever time i switch it on it makes a very loud humming sound.
with no guitar sound when played.can any body help.
I DO NOT NOW A THING ABOUT AMPS Please help

marshall G30r CD? how about that... i'm fixing my sister's boyfriend's amp, that happens to be that exact model.
though his problem was a messed up input(it fell forward with the chord still in it). works fine again.

can you describe your problem a little better? the "sound" you're hearing.

you get a loud humming sound?

if it's just a hum, i'd say you might have a ground loop. a decent tech could fix that for you for a couple bucks.

if you're just talking about a little hiss from the amp being on. deal with it, that's all amps in high gain settings.

if you touch your strings an it goes away, your guitar is not grounded.

if your guitar is grounded, but the sound goes away when you turn down the volume of the guitar. your guitar probably isnt sheilded.


also, are you saying that you can't hear the guitar?

if so,

check to make sure it's not a chord or pedal.

you might also have a fucked up input... jiggle it a bit, if it cuts in and or out you have a fucked up input.

check the wires running to the speaker... there should be a black one and a white one. each connected to the speaker.

check all of that and holla back at me.
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Old 2005-03-30, 01:55
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whats the most watts in an amp uv ever seen. or whats the most expensive amp you have ever seen. i found out the problem it was the shitty jack i got with my guitar. i got it replaced. but the one i gots not gonna last long, whats a good brand or type i should get and how much money it is.

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whats the most watts in an amp uv ever seen. or whats the most expensive amp you have ever seen. i found out the problem it was the shitty jack i got with my guitar. i got it replaced. but the one i gots not gonna last long, whats a good brand or type i should get and how much money it is.


This could be a thread in itself. I've heard of 1,200 watts in a Peavey ( or was it an Ampeg? ) bass head, and some botique guitar amplifier going for tens of thousands. I think Carvin has replacement guitar jacks.
 
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whats the most watts in an amp uv ever seen. or whats the most expensive amp you have ever seen. i found out the problem it was the shitty jack i got with my guitar. i got it replaced. but the one i gots not gonna last long, whats a good brand or type i should get and how much money it is.

Some military radars use vacuum tubes that are like three feet long and put out thousands of watts. They require a water cooling system. I often fantasize of someday building a single massive guitar amplifier out of these babies and powering a wall of speakers with this one amp.

As far as the cable goes, Guitar Center sells a super high-end brand (I forget the name right now) which has an unlimited lifetime guarantee just like Craftsman tools. You don't need to keep the receipt or anything. Just bring it in and they replace it, no questions asked. Gold plated, low loss, etc...
The thirty footer cost me $35, so it is definitely more money up front, but the guarantee rocks. I was having intermittent contact issues with some other cables, but this one is fucking solid.
 
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whats the most watts in an amp uv ever seen. or whats the most expensive amp you have ever seen. i found out the problem it was the shitty jack i got with my guitar. i got it replaced. but the one i gots not gonna last long, whats a good brand or type i should get and how much money it is.

most expensive... current production. maybe deizel... dumble... CAE... out if production.. most vintage marshalls from back in the day, especially ones owned by famous people.

most watts.. in a guitar head... i'd say the prototype novelty 600w tube crate blue voodoo.

but with rack gear you could just grab a nice crown poweramp or something.

the jack on your guitar or the cable that came with it?
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Old 2005-03-30, 14:45
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thanks xdislexicx for your post,I tried everything you
said to no avail. the slight humming sound that is alleviated
by touching the strings ore tremelo bar is not the same.
as in this case there is just a deep humming with no guitar
sound at all
 
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thanks xdislexicx for your post,I tried everything you
said to no avail. the slight humming sound that is alleviated
by touching the strings ore tremelo bar is not the same.
as in this case there is just a deep humming with no guitar
sound at all

take it to a tech and ask him to just look at and find the problem. once he finds it, we'll see where to go from there.
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Old 2005-03-30, 17:25
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Yes i will do that xdislexicx, thanks all the same .
 
Old 2005-04-02, 00:46
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one of my friends has 20 high end amps with over 1000 watts. he hooked it up and played a concert with 10,000 watts with all amps together it was awsome, i still have a headache

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one of my friends has 20 high end amps with over 1000 watts. he hooked it up and played a concert with 10,000 watts with all amps together it was awsome, i still have a headache


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Some military radars use vacuum tubes that are like three feet long and put out thousands of watts. They require a water cooling system. I often fantasize of someday building a single massive guitar amplifier out of these babies and powering a wall of speakers with this one amp.

if you ever did that youd beat metal_guard's friend by a fucking milenia...
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